Walker proposes changing Wisconsin Idea — then backs away
Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Stunned educators accused Gov. Scott Walker on Wednesday of trying to kill the Wisconsin Idea, which has guided the mission of the state's public higher education system for more than a century.
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First articulated in 1904, the Wisconsin Idea states that the mission of the UW System is to solve problems and improve people's lives beyond the classroom. The core principle is that "the boundaries of the university are the boundaries of the state."
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But in the proposed budget he released Tuesday, the governor made the UW System's mission to "meet the state's workforce needs." He also proposed striking language about public service and improving the human condition, and deleting the phrase: "Basic to every purpose of the system is the search for truth
Late Wednesday afternoon long after stories about the governor's effort lighted up social media and news websites Walker backed away when confronted by Milwaukee Journal Sentinel columnist Daniel Bice. He said the new language was a drafting error and "kind of a nonissue because that's not a problem with us."
Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/scott-walkers-uw-mission-rewrite-could-end-the-wisconsin-idea-b99439020z1-290797681.html
Mistake my ass.
Who needs higher education? We need soulless job factories.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)ashamed of my state
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)personally, have busted their collective ass trying to make sure this clown was rejected.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)voting this guy and others like him in time after time? What are the stats?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)elections in a first past the post system.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Be ashamed for all the corrupt GOP voters that put this POS snake in the grass in office.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)verify the results.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)example of how Walker is running Wisconsin into a hole. An uneducated hole.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)This was NO mistake. I trust him about as far as I can throw my house.
Stardust
(3,894 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)
Gov. Scott Walker talks about changing UW's 'focus' at stop in De Pere Wednesday
http://host.madison.com/gov-scott-walker-talks-about-changing-uw-s-focus-at/audio_0e326ef5-facf-55c7-9389-927cb3011427.html
Read more: http://host.madison.com/gov-scott-walker-talks-about-changing-uw-s-focus-at/audio_0e326ef5-facf-55c7-9389-927cb3011427.html#ixzz3Qsashe1l
...But earlier in the day, Walker told reporters in De Pere that the proposed language change in his 2015-17 budget plan would better focus the University of Wisconsin System.
The focus would be honed in, in particular to look at making sure that we prepare individuals in this state ... for the jobs and opportunities that are available in the state, Walker said, according to Wisconsin Radio Network.....
http://host.madison.com/gov-scott-walker-talks-about-changing-uw-s-focus-at/audio_0e326ef5-facf-55c7-9389-927cb3011427.html
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)with theirs? That would be a shame since this is a very good college.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)UW Madison is the flagship, to be sure. It's one of the best university research institutions in the world. But UW Milwaukee is also a top-tier research school. The "smaller" colleges in the system also range from good to excellent.
It is absolutely shocking what Walker is proposing to do to this thriving public university system. The cuts to UW Milwaukee alone amount to the budget for the entire business school.
Then, with the governor indicating an increase of courseloads and basically disrespecting the faculty, here's what's going to happen:
1) Anyone who can move will move. That means the top researchers who can easily land prestigious jobs elsewhere will do so. Plenty of institutions will be willing to take in a highly productive researcher who wants to maintain a balanced course-research load.
2)It also means that schools across the system will have difficulty recruiting talented new and senior faculty. Who would leave a 2-2 load and consistent research budget at Ohio State for a 3-3 load and budget cuts in Wisconsin? Nobody, that's who. Who would take their first job in a system which may on the fly increase their teaching load such that they never finish their first book and perhaps lose tenure on that basis? Only the very desperate (of which, of course, there's no shortage).
This is going to be utterly disastrous for the UW system. It already is. Walker's comments have already set the wheels in motion for all of the consequences listed above.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)My daughter's roommate left as soon as she finished her PhD. She had wanted to stay in Madison, but she took a job elsewhere. My daughter left a year ago. She has a job in Vermont now, at an academic library.
I have been noticing the way academics are fleeing the state when they can. Maybe this seems anecdotal to some of you here, but the average person does not notice what academics do.
This flight began when Walker first started dumping on the teachers unions, and the uprising at the capitol in Madison was taking place. He was making noise about academics then, and they were worried that he would get his way.
These people are vital to the future of the state, its economy and its education. I think Walker is jealous of anyone who is capable, bright and educated. Such people make him uncomfortable with his own ignorance.
AllyCat
(16,189 posts)Fight this criminal with everything you have. He is so bad for Wisconsin...he would turn the rest of the country into the third world with the Koch Bros at the helm.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Stay vigilant against this nasty man. While he is being used by the Kochs and their ilk as a decoy until they feel ready to bring out their preferred candidate, Walker is still very dangerous. Walker will be sacrificed by the Kochs in their desperation to take the White House in 2016. The odd thing is watching the ground shift under Walker's feet. He thinks the Kochs are on his side when he is no more to them than a bug to be smashed in their venal ploys to gain ever more power. It would be amusing to watch him be destroyed, but his destruction is just part of their not so grand scheme.
Blue Owl
(50,425 posts)n/t
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)In place of "soulless job factories", I suggest some version of worker drone programing centers.
I do have to wonder if Scotty isn't impressing his owners. Ever since the barely concealed warning in the op-ed in the WSJ (when it was rumored the Scotty was considering turning states evidence in the John Doe investigations); Scotty has been staying on script beautifully. He is a well trained little doggy. He might not be the distraction.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 5, 2015, 04:18 PM - Edit history (1)
But in my "golden years", I find it incredulous to watch while the likes of Walker plough STRAIGHT THRU legitimately protesting minions and mountainous truths that OUGHT TO render him a steeping pile of useless dung. That he escapes that fate is thanks to enabling by aspiring dictators such as the Kochs. and their ilk. While it might be justice, it won't be very satisfying to realize the moment when these power-crazy ass holes find that they've sunk the very ground they've been standing on.
A POX on you, Scott Walker. A pox on you and your whole fetid clan. In spite of my being an atheist, I sorta wish there were a Hell for you to retire to.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)....But in dicing up the UW systems foundational document, Walker is mixing his messages and undermining his own proposal. On the one hand, hes saying that the Wisconsin system can be trusted with autonomy at the very same time, he is proposing to micromanage their mission and has suggested, for instance, that professors work more hours. So can the UW manage their affairs, or can they not?
In the end, Walkers $300 million cut to the system will probably be pared back by the Legislature, and his multiple autonomy plans have never had very many vocal supporters. But he could have handled the budgetary dealings with the UW without shooting an arrow at its heart for no real reason.
Sure, the Wisconsin Idea is mostly a symbol. But its a really important symbol for those involved with the UW System. It would be like unilaterally changing the universitys mascot from the Badgers to the Fightin Penguins.
If the Legislature wants to add to the universitys mission, then let Walkers new phrase about the states workforce stand. But Republicans, who are constantly fighting off the impression that they are the party of anti-intellectualism, shouldnt be symbolically preventing the university from seeking truth. And thats no lie.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/290830571.html
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Walker is a cooked goose!!
Ah--the TRUTH! Documents show @GovWalker administration sought removal of UW's 'Wisconsin Idea' http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/documents-show-walker-administration-seeking-removal-of-uws-wisconsin-idea-b99439710z1-290927651.html
#wipolitics #WIunion
http://media.jrn.com/images/660*413/b99439710z.1_20150205101847_000_gnj9r7dc.1-1.jpg
Students use a pedestrian bridge to cross N. Park St. on Tuesday on the UW-Madison campus.
Mark Hoffman
By Jason Stein and Karen Herzog of the Journal Sentinel
Feb. 5, 2015 10:18 a.m.
Madison In quickly restoring the Wisconsin Idea on Wednesday to its central place in the state's public university system, Gov. Scott Walker said its mission statement of searching for truth had only been proposed for removal from state law because of an oversight or drafting error in his budget bill.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, however, reviewed the drafting file for the budget bill Thursday and found at least two references in which the Walker administration's budget shop had requested the removal of those phrases in the University of Wisconsin System's mission statement in state statute.
A spokeswoman for Walker, Laurel Patrick, responded Thursday that Walker's office was not aware of any such action by his administration's budget office and did not sign off on it.
"The directive from our office was to add an additional tie to workforce readiness in the UW System's mission statement," Patrick said in a statement. "This was drafted with oversight by DOA's budget shop. The final version of the language was not seen or approved by our office."
A Dec. 30 email from state Department of Administration budget analyst Nathan Schwanz to nonpartisan drafting attorneys at the Wisconsin Legislative Reference Bureau directed the bill drafters to make a number of changes to the mission statement of the UW-System as it is enshrined in state statutes. ................
Orsino
(37,428 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)Has some good history about Wisconsin Idea
Scott Walker Bumbles The Search for Truth.' @thenation on a candidate's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. http://www.thenation.com/blog/197201/scott-walker-bumbles-search-truth
#WisconsinIdea
Scott Walker Objects to the Search for Truth
http://www.thenation.com/blog/197121/scott-walker-objects-search-truth
John Nichols on February 4, 2015 - 2:53 PM ET
UPDATE (2-3-15) 5:30 PM: Facing sharp criticism for proposing to abandon the University of Wisconsin's public-service mission statement, as outlined in state statutes, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker on Wednesday afternoon abruptly dropped the plan. Criticized for attacking The Wisconsin Idea and the state's historic commitment to academic inquiry, the all-but-announced 2016 presidential candidate shifted course less than 24 hours after making his proposal, which came as part of a broader assault on higher education funding. Walker claimed the line-by-line proposal for changing the statutes was a "drafting error." The following article provides background and context regarding the prospective presidential candidate's stumble.
Americans have returned to the question of whether the Republican Party has launched a war on scienceas 2016 presidential prospects Chris Christie and Rand Paul have abandoned public-health imperatives in order to feed skepticism about whether children should be vaccinated against infectious diseases.
But Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has trumped his fellow 2016 contenders.
Walker is launching a war on the truth.
Literally.
As part of a broader attempt to diminish the states support for, and ties to, the University of Wisconsin System, Walker wants to strike Wisconsin Idea language from state statutesincluding references to public service and a commitment to search for truth.
The Wisconsin Idea, which is much discussed but not always so much understood in the present day, has always been always been about seeking the truth, and about applying the results of that search not just to curriculum choices but to the policies and programs of the state.....................
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Walker knew he was about to Drop another bomb [like he did with Act 10]
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Gov. Scott Walker winks during his budget address in the Assembly chamber at the State Capitol on Tuesday.
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Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/pat_schneider/reaction-to-scott-walker-s-rewrite-of-uw-mission-strong/article_ba67741f-4444-5b1c-a6a9-f41c9b18a41c.html#ixzz3Qtjp3JCm
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Shudders.
lastlib
(23,248 posts)Can we compare him to a lower form of life? Like swamp scum, perhaps?
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Here is the link http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Death_Of_The_Wisconsin_Idea
"A few days ago, we looked at the efforts by Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin -- the latest heartthrob of the Anyone-But-Jeb (!) wing of the Republican party -- to cut $300 million from the public university system of the state he manages on behalf of his various donors. It was one of those conservative scams whereby you preach freedom (removing control of the university from the state itself) in order to destroy that of which you do not approve (handing that control over to a Board of Regents you've packed with cronies)."
"The Wisconsin Idea was a manifestation of the creative process of making a self-governing political commonwealth that had its beginnings with the Mayflower Compact and that had been, in fits and starts, the main engine of American political and social progress for the entire life of the country. Specifically, the Wisconsin Idea was a manifestation of that process that arose in response to the vast centrifugal forces of corporate power and organized money operating within the government during the previous Gilded Age. The Wisconsin Idea produced improvements in agriculture and medicine through the university's laboratories. The Wisconsin Idea produced improvements in government because it produced people like its greatest political advocate, Robert LaFollette, and his successors in Madison after LaFollette moved on to the Senate."
"The forces that Scott Walker represents are the same forces, dressed up in modern drag and operating with the speed and efficiency of modern communication, that Roosevelt and LaFollette and the rest of them saw as threatening to the creative process of self-government back at the turn of the last century. The money power does not need the political entity that is the United States of America except as an organizing infrastructure through which private profits can be insured and increased. The money power does not need its fellow citizens as anything but disposable commodities, and anonymous, interchangeable units, in the mechanism that produces those profits. That is the political and social reality against which The Wisconsin Idea was raised up to combat. It depended vitally on the intellectual ferment of the state's universities, and the products of that ferment as applied in pursuit of a better life for all the state's citizens. The forces for which Scott Walker is only the most recently popular front man are threatened by education, and by knowledge, so they use all the power they have to frighten people about new ways of looking at things, about fresh knowledge, about the process of education itself.""
Everyone should read the entire article.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)When I first heard about this
1. I knew people would be outraged ( I am) even my GOP Wis friends are not pleased
2. I knew he would have to retract and backtrack
3. I knew he would then lie and blame someone else ( irony alert: lies about removing the search for truth)
One thing I don't get is why? Why would they butcher a sacrosanct concept? It seems so unnecessary.
The answer lies somewhere in the workforce training thing. The Koch bros must want dumb drones.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)That's clearly an edit that removes any state protection for the humanities and the liberal arts as a whole. Basically, the goal is to turn the UW system into a group of STEM and trade schools, and get rid of the humanities en masse.
The "human condition" and "truth" here are code words for humanities disciplines and departments across the UW system, which Walker needs sanction to simply shutter. He can't do that with the language of the Wisconsin Idea as it is currently (that is, traditionally) drafted.
Red1
(351 posts)sammy brownback was born from the same clutch of eggs that walker was.
both carry the koch bros leashes.