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4now

(1,596 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:18 PM Feb 2015

Pelosi: Members Won't 'Boycott' Netanyahu Speech. But They Might Be too Busy to Go.

Source: National Journal

There will be no "boycott" of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech before Congress next month, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Thursday.

But while she downplayed reports of an organized protest, she suggested some lawmakers might just be too busy to attend. And at least two Democrats have already decided they won't be on hand.

"I don't think anybody should use the word 'boycott,'" Pelosi said in her weekly press conference. "When these heads of state come, people are here doing their work, they're trying to pass legislation, they're meeting with their constituents and the rest. It's not a high-priority item for them."

The Netanyahu address has drawn sharp criticism from Democrats, who view the invitation from House Speaker John Boehner as a means of undermining the Obama administration's nuclear negotiations with Iran. The Israeli leader, many congressional Republicans, and some Democrats favor increased sanctions, but Obama has asked them to hold off until member nations of the U.N. Security Council can try to deter Iran's nuclear ambitions at the bargaining table.

Read more: http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/pelosi-members-won-t-boycott-netanyahu-speech-but-they-might-be-too-busy-to-go-20150205

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Pelosi: Members Won't 'Boycott' Netanyahu Speech. But They Might Be too Busy to Go. (Original Post) 4now Feb 2015 OP
Good ann--- Feb 2015 #1
Good. bravenak Feb 2015 #2
There SHOULD Be a Boycott Teutonic Samuel Feb 2015 #3
Honestly...,. V0ltairesGh0st Feb 2015 #5
No...this stance precludes Bibi claiming victimhood. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #36
Weak sauce.... blackspade Feb 2015 #4
Boycotts are for IMPORTANT things. A politician who is trying to get reelected and who is too MADem Feb 2015 #30
She is just denying Repubs an easy avenue of attack Tom Rinaldo Feb 2015 #6
Well said. I agree. Shrike47 Feb 2015 #7
Yaaaawn ! V0ltairesGh0st Feb 2015 #8
Dems in Washington are a bunch of pussies bigdarryl Feb 2015 #9
I agree. A boycott of Bibi's speech would set the tone for a strong 2016 run in both Houses. kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #25
AIPAC tapes Youtube Steviehh Feb 2015 #10
This is one reason Pelosi is not the Speaker anymore. Dems should boycott the speech. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #11
There is only ONE reason leftynyc Feb 2015 #12
you are completely right loveandlight Feb 2015 #13
Chickens! MynameisBlarney Feb 2015 #14
This is right up there DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #15
Another play from the Dickless H Chickenshit playbook JonLP24 Feb 2015 #16
So instead of a boycott Flatpicker Feb 2015 #17
Rather than a boycott - which gives Netanyahu some credibility on the right dflprincess Feb 2015 #18
...urgent business elsewhere... maybe washing their hair, the old classic for turning down a date... Hekate Feb 2015 #19
Good. Seems like Bibi and Boehner are each taking the other one for an idiot... LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #20
A boycott makes Bibi too important tavernier Feb 2015 #21
Indeed. Turbineguy Feb 2015 #22
...Foxman has run the ADL for almost thirty years... mrJJ Feb 2015 #23
This is not Pelosi's first rodeo. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #24
If Congress ever hopes to nullify AIPAC...indifference is their only chance. kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #26
Netanayahu is not worth a boycot is an excellent message. Ms. Pelosi delivers this mulsh Feb 2015 #27
Gotta wash their hair dontchaknow! calimary Feb 2015 #28
Haaaaaaaaaaa Gotto love this woman Hutzpa Feb 2015 #29
If the dems don't show up ripcord Feb 2015 #31
I'd love to be there . . . Brigid Feb 2015 #32
I've contact Senators Murray and Cantwell, and need to contact my Rep. Hulk Feb 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Hulk Feb 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Hulk Feb 2015 #34
Have to add, belatedly: maddiemom Feb 2015 #37
 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
5. Honestly...,.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:45 PM
Feb 2015

It's a brilliant strategy really, they're sending a message by not taking any official stance. In other words...

"YAWN, what Netanya ...who ?...Oh...ok that's nice have fun with that."


MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. Boycotts are for IMPORTANT things. A politician who is trying to get reelected and who is too
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 11:32 PM
Feb 2015

stupid or mendacious to check with the President before arranging a visit proves that the guy is UNIMPORTANT.

And the fact that he stuffed Bonehead under the bus ("Waaah--I thought he checked with POTUS&quot shows what a chickenshit the guy is.

Don't give him the ATTENTION that a boycott deserves. Politicians should just go get their fades refreshed, or their nails done, or pick up that drycleaning...I mean, really--everyone's busy, aren't they?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. She is just denying Repubs an easy avenue of attack
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:55 PM
Feb 2015

Oh the horror if Democrats should dishonor Israel so much as to boycott it's leader when he comes to Congress. But, on the other hand, simply not showing up due to "other engagements" and constituent demands, simply means attending to their jobs, sorry guy. What scares Netanyahu is getting blamed with polarizing American support for Israel along partisan lines. That is viewed as endangering Israel's national security since they depend so much on strong American support across the political spectrum. Statements like the one Pelosi just made are understood quite well inside Israel without handing our Republicans a talking point on a silver platter.

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
8. Yaaaawn !
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 07:02 PM
Feb 2015

Netanyahu has another thing coming if he thinks he's going to have anyone besides maybe Ted Cruz, Jim Inhofe, and Lindsey Graham hanging on his every plattitude.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
25. I agree. A boycott of Bibi's speech would set the tone for a strong 2016 run in both Houses.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:26 AM
Feb 2015

Now tying to back-step will contribute to more indifference from many Dems .

Steviehh

(115 posts)
10. AIPAC tapes Youtube
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 09:42 PM
Feb 2015

AIPAC has gotten 80+% Congress participation in past meetings. Check Youtube.

This is a shock to them. Congress is supposed to roolover. Immediately.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
11. This is one reason Pelosi is not the Speaker anymore. Dems should boycott the speech.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:47 AM
Feb 2015

It is a political move by Boehner and Netanyahu which calls for a political response from Democrats.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. There is only ONE reason
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:52 AM
Feb 2015

Pelosi is not speaker and it's because the Democrats don't control the House. She was a very effective speaker for us.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
15. This is right up there
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:33 PM
Feb 2015

with the "impeachment is off the table" speech that cut a lot of reform off right at the knees.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. Another play from the Dickless H Chickenshit playbook
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:48 PM
Feb 2015

Several elected officials are openly discussing whether or not they themselves should attention and all those that are pondering are also criticizing Boehner for using this as a political football.

Each member should do it or don't but take a stand either way.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
18. Rather than a boycott - which gives Netanyahu some credibility on the right
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:31 AM
Feb 2015

it's more insulting to say "Love to be there, but I really need to get my sock drawer straightened out and that's the only time I have to do it."

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
19. ...urgent business elsewhere... maybe washing their hair, the old classic for turning down a date...
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:21 AM
Feb 2015

Pelosi's smart. The operative words are bolded here:

"I don't think anybody should use the word 'boycott,'" Pelosi said in her weekly press conference. "When these heads of state come, people are here doing their work, they're trying to pass legislation, they're meeting with their constituents and the rest. It's not a high-priority item for them" (meaning Democratic legislators).

Several of you don't get it. This is Pelosi's way of letting Dems tell Bibi he's just not all that.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
20. Good. Seems like Bibi and Boehner are each taking the other one for an idiot...
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:47 AM
Feb 2015

which may be because they both ARE idiots.

Anyway, why should the American Congressional Democrats get involved in another country's third-rate politician's electioneering? They have enough with their own Republicans! And I hope the Israeli voters see through Bibi too, and FINALLY dump him!!!

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
21. A boycott makes Bibi too important
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 08:27 AM
Feb 2015

and gives Boehner more reason to display his smug orange smirk. Nancy is spot on: while the republican congress continues its do-nothing ways, the democrats have twice the work to do and weight to lift. No time for politician nonsense.

mrJJ

(886 posts)
23. ...Foxman has run the ADL for almost thirty years...
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 08:34 PM
Feb 2015

Source: JOSH MARSHALL TPM

Think the Netanyahu speech lead up is going well? Now even Abe Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), one of the oldest and most respected institutions of American Jewry, is saying the speech should be canceled. Foxman has run the ADL for almost thirty years. In the American Jewish community, it does not get anymore establishment than that.

There's another element of this too. It is fair to say that over the course of his tenure Foxman has become increasingly known for speaking out against criticisms of Israel, even in cases where the criticisms are from Jews and focus on policies and actions that are the subject of political contention within Israel.

This is not meant as a criticism, or at least not raised as such in this context. And plenty of people would dispute the contention. But I raise the point because if anyone was going to suggest that Netanyahu was being unfairly treated, if anyone was going to buck the trend of criticizing this stunt or saying the speech should be canceled, it would be Foxman. His saying this makes clear that there's simply no defending it. It makes equally clear that more than anything else this stunt is damaging to the US-Israel alliance, which is the lynchpin of the country's security.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
24. This is not Pelosi's first rodeo.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 02:49 AM
Feb 2015

I agree with the posters on this thread who see this "no boycott" statement as a work of political finesse on Pelosi's part. This is how to deal with Bibi.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
26. If Congress ever hopes to nullify AIPAC...indifference is their only chance.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:29 AM
Feb 2015

But i believe they enjoy the bullying that billions brings.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
27. Netanayahu is not worth a boycot is an excellent message. Ms. Pelosi delivers this
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 12:02 PM
Feb 2015

message in a perfectly dismissive manner. Just one of the many reasons I support her.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
33. I've contact Senators Murray and Cantwell, and need to contact my Rep.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:07 AM
Feb 2015

...who happens to be a teabagger, Hererra Buetler; but I expect a response letting me know their position on attending his political speech to OUR Congress. I'm asking all three of them NOT to attend.

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maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
37. Have to add, belatedly:
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:55 AM
Feb 2015

This is a GREAT way for Democrats to handle the situation! Repugs would probably all stay home and make a lot of huffy statements, if the reverse were true. I doubt, more and more that this speech will happen (if "Bibi" has any sense, that is).

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