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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 12:32 PM Feb 2015

Boehner: I Didn't Want 'Interference' From Obama In Netanyahu Speech

Source: TPM

"Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace on Sunday quizzed House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) on his decision to invite Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak before Congress.

Boehner invited Netanyahu without consulting the White House, leading numerous congressional Democrats to boycott the speech.

"Haven’t you taken one of the few bipartisan issues in this country — support for Israel — and turned it into a political football?" Wallace asked.

"I have not. The fact is that we had every right to do what we did," Boehner responded. "I wanted the prime minister to come here. There’s a serious threat facing the world. And radical Islamic terrorists are not going to go away."

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-netanyahu-speech-white-house

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Boehner: I Didn't Want 'Interference' From Obama In Netanyahu Speech (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2015 OP
President Obama is President Marthe48 Feb 2015 #1
Drunk Scarsdale Feb 2015 #6
Whether it's how you would have designed it or not, our Constitution set up three co-equal branches 24601 Feb 2015 #26
All of the above. The nerve, he didn't want interference as he interfers with US foreign policy. nt brush Feb 2015 #29
Pure political stunt to embarrass GP6971 Feb 2015 #2
He's an idiot who believes himself ABOVE POTUS benld74 Feb 2015 #3
His 'right' to make the invitation only goes as far as protocol allows. Panich52 Feb 2015 #4
Maybe,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #5
Israel laughs at the New Testament android fan Feb 2015 #11
Its not about who wrote it,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #12
I'm a Jewish atheist... android fan Feb 2015 #15
Petulant orange fuck… dhill926 Feb 2015 #7
All I heard was "blubber, blubber, why is Obama not saving my ass again?" Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #8
This man is either incredibly stupid or he just doesn't give a shit. geomon666 Feb 2015 #9
It's surprising they left him at the helm. He hasn't been able to do anything, except nothing. C Moon Feb 2015 #10
He is place holding until they Skidmore Feb 2015 #14
Yes. Most likely. C Moon Feb 2015 #18
sadly, extremely likely. Democrats could have put the GOP in the grave if they had gone more FDR... yurbud Feb 2015 #20
+1,000 Scuba Feb 2015 #22
It's tough to see Dems act like Washington Generals losing to GOP's Globetrotters, especially since yurbud Feb 2015 #33
Just keep going with that story, Boner. I think it's starting to garner some real results for you. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #13
"Boehner: I Didn't Want 'Interference'" Botany Feb 2015 #16
not to mention that at that very time, kerry called 50 leaders for israel karynnj Feb 2015 #25
Kerry has made some really good progress w/Iran through old fashioned diplomacy Botany Feb 2015 #31
I suspect it is ideological in addition to their base politics karynnj Feb 2015 #34
Maybe we should change our laws to reflect the House Speaker is in charge of Foreign Affairs. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #17
Boner and bibi are sneaky little shites.. hope the weaselyness has Blowback. Cha Feb 2015 #19
I'm willing to bet NetanYahoo backs out at the last minute and leaves Boner swingin in the breeze. Monk06 Feb 2015 #21
nuttiyahoo is just as nuts as boehner is madokie Feb 2015 #23
I wish that were true but doubt it karynnj Feb 2015 #27
The President may show up, walk to congress. How will you keep the President away Boehner? Sunlei Feb 2015 #24
Interference? BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #28
my, my, my.... fredamae Feb 2015 #30
on another board they were sayng that Bohner violated the Logan Act and can be prosectued hollysmom Feb 2015 #32
Incredibly disrespectful Marrah_G Feb 2015 #35

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
6. Drunk
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 01:12 PM
Feb 2015

He is a drunken "whore, lackey" You decide. I decided he is a drunken ass, useless and a fine example of the leadership of HIS party.

24601

(3,962 posts)
26. Whether it's how you would have designed it or not, our Constitution set up three co-equal branches
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:27 AM
Feb 2015

of government and for the most part, their internal workings are decided within that branch. I'm sure Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton would have liked to have the power to have a veto on who would visit Congress, speak to Congress, testify before Congressional Committees and even control who could be called to testify in Senate impeachment Trials.

I believe every member of Congress prosecuted for corruption would have enjoyed the power to control who the FBI could and could not interview.

When you have a Congressional leader who gives the White House the same veto by proxy, it is that Congressional leader who takes on the role of whore - not the members who keep Congress independent from the Executive Branch. As Kevin Spacey said to Jason Bateman in Horrible Bosses, "...I OWN YOU. You're my BITCH! So don't walk around here thinking you have free will because you DON'T."

brush

(53,841 posts)
29. All of the above. The nerve, he didn't want interference as he interfers with US foreign policy. nt
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:58 AM
Feb 2015

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
4. His 'right' to make the invitation only goes as far as protocol allows.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 12:56 PM
Feb 2015

Since he didn't even bother to inform WH or Senate, much less minority leadership, hos 'right' is forfeit.

This purely partisan ploy us an attempt to influence foreign policy. That also negates his 'right.'

And how does he expect PBO to 'interfere'? Oh, wait. Bibi could b put on a watch list due to his war crimes...

..

 

android fan

(214 posts)
11. Israel laughs at the New Testament
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 03:53 PM
Feb 2015

since it is not the book of God... and the Old Testament is not the book of God either.. all written by man...

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
12. Its not about who wrote it,,,
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:12 PM
Feb 2015

but those that believe in Christ yet do not believe that their Savior meant what He said when said that Sodom Gomorrah fared far better fate than Israel will for having ears but refused to hear the Word.

 

android fan

(214 posts)
15. I'm a Jewish atheist...
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:23 PM
Feb 2015

Even I'm having hard time believing the words that was written on the Bible.

Is the Bible supposed to be a permanent document of what we should live our lives like?

I would think the Bible would be an everchanging document that would fit to modern world.

I don't even understand why the rabbis keep studying the past and speak of us about the past. We need to be proactive. We aren't. We are just learning the same old shit over and over.

That's why I quit religion. I'm only going to the synagogue because I want to teach my son what's the proper Jewish way of life. He's 6, and super-brilliant.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
9. This man is either incredibly stupid or he just doesn't give a shit.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 02:08 PM
Feb 2015

If it's the latter, anything to him is fair game.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
10. It's surprising they left him at the helm. He hasn't been able to do anything, except nothing.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 02:58 PM
Feb 2015

And it appears he's going with the same theme now that they have control.
It's all he knows.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
14. He is place holding until they
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:13 PM
Feb 2015

can try to get someone in the WH to rubberstamp the Koch brothers' wishlist.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
20. sadly, extremely likely. Democrats could have put the GOP in the grave if they had gone more FDR...
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 08:57 PM
Feb 2015

and less DLC in the Obama years.

Instead of burying the GOP, they have made it likely they'll end up back in the driver's seat and drive us off a cliff into not just more wars in the Middle East but a World War with Russia and possibly China.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
33. It's tough to see Dems act like Washington Generals losing to GOP's Globetrotters, especially since
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 01:46 PM
Feb 2015

the GOP is more like a quadrapelegic Charles Manson, who can spit venom but can't even dribble the ball.

Botany

(70,578 posts)
16. "Boehner: I Didn't Want 'Interference'"
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:44 PM
Feb 2015

Boner says this crap as he is interfering w/the President and Sec. Kerry

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
25. not to mention that at that very time, kerry called 50 leaders for israel
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:26 AM
Feb 2015

Something he spent two hours speaking with dermer about earlier the day that the invitation was publicly announced.

Obama and kerry have used their own good connections in the world to help israel - even after netanyahu smeared and stabbed them in the back when he wanted the Gaza war to continue and they worked for a ceasefire.

Netanyahu is incredibly lucky that both Obama and kerry have the strength of character to not punish israel for the constant rudeness of its leader.

Botany

(70,578 posts)
31. Kerry has made some really good progress w/Iran through old fashioned diplomacy
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:20 AM
Feb 2015

And now Boner and Bibi want to scuttle that work for the lowest of reasons.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
34. I suspect it is ideological in addition to their base politics
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 02:22 PM
Feb 2015

I have argued that Obama and kerry have greatly changed our foreign policy. There were some changes in the first term as well.

the isis effort is based on mobilizing the government's in the region to not only fight, but to become more inclusive and to publicly reject extremism. this is as different from the bush policies as simply leaving the the region would ne.
The re engagement with Iran is similar and they are working with 5 other major powers. It is amazing chutzpah that Boehner is arguing that Netanyahu knows better than all the people who have actually worked on this. they should remember that he predicted in September 2012 that Iran could make a bomb within 6 months.

The interim agreement actually moved back the time table and then froze it. yet netanyahu blasted it. it is clear that any permanent agreement is likely to include keeping levels where the break out time is longer and monitoring. This is better than it was when netanyahu spoke at the un.

the real question is what does netanyahu really want? To me, permanent sanctions are not an honest position because the world would not and should not keep thEm. The problem is that leaves military options only and netanyahu prefers the US do the attack.

Going back to the congress, the Republicans have been furious that Obama has rejected the neoconservative pathof bush. They are still angry that we did not bomb Syria. They misstate this as Obama backing down because they never agreed that the goal was just to reduce the chance of more chemical weapons. The CT agreement was a better solution to obama's goal but not to their goal of regime change. (Israel was a prime beneficiary but I doubt they thanked us.)

If you remember that it was not just republicans the bought the neo con ideas. It is not surprising that Obama has had to fight.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
27. I wish that were true but doubt it
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:38 AM
Feb 2015

It is very clear that Netanyahu is running like bush 2004 on maximum fear. His speech will be all about Iran and will play to both the fears of Israelis and the neoconservative pro war sentiments in the congress.

This is a golden opportunity for him. I hope Obama and kerry and others on the team can clearly get people to see that Netanyahu views any agreement with any terms bad because he says they Will cheat. Not to mention he does not want Iran to become less a pariah.

He strongly pushed the Iraq war as well. What he wants is really not what the US wants. There are fundamental differences in policy. Obama and kerry really do believe in diplomacy and he does not.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. The President may show up, walk to congress. How will you keep the President away Boehner?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:29 AM
Feb 2015

Why did you and 'about 60' republicans visit Israel only a month ago, Boehner?

That should be the first question Boehner has to answer in the open press, right after.

BeyondGeography

(39,379 posts)
28. Interference?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:48 AM
Feb 2015

Imagine the GOP windstorm and the accompanying MSM hurricane if a Democratic speaker ever used that term after pulling a stunt like this.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
30. my, my, my....
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:00 AM
Feb 2015

Seems he's "self-elected" himself President of the United States?... ain't he cute when he's being almighty powerful for "the Amurikan People"????

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
32. on another board they were sayng that Bohner violated the Logan Act and can be prosectued
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

is that true?

ETA - I see it is already argued here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026203045

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