Ukraine PM to Russia: 'Get out of our land'
Source: Kiev Post/CBC
As the cease-fire between Ukraine and Russia looks shaky at best, the prime minister of Ukraine told CNBC that Russia was not withdrawing heavy weaponry from the east of the country and needed to end its "illegal invasion."
"I have a key aspiration, and this is the aspiration of the entire Ukrainian nation: Russians, get out of our land. But they are still in Ukraine; Russian military and boots are still on Ukrainian ground," Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk told CNBC Tuesday.
Less than two weeks ago, Russia and Ukraine signed a peace deal, brokered by France and Germany, which was meant to see the withdrawal of heavy weaponry by both sides from the eastern region of Ukraine, where fighting between pro-Russian separatists and the Ukraine military has been concentrated.
Speaking of the deal, Yatsenyuk alleged that Russian President Vladimir Putin had "cheated and outplayed" those involved in peace talks, including Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko, the leaders of France and Germany who helped broker the deal, "and the entire European Union."
Read more: https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/cbc-news-get-out-of-our-land-yatsenyuk-to-russia-381798.html
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)One does not demand that invaders leave one's lands.
One either kills the invaders, or if one can't kill the invaders one sues for the least humiliating peace possible. And then position oneself such that one can kill the invaders when they cross the line.
One can imagine Putin's smirk upon hearing this.
FBaggins
(26,757 posts)When the bully takes your lunch... either kick his rear end all up and down the school yard or give him your lunch money and beg him not to hurt you?
No room for "tell him to leave you alone and convince the adults that the bully should be spoken to"?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And Putin doesn't really care what anyone else has to say, only what they can do to hurt or help him.
Ukraine's government can make all the speeches they want, and it will only amuse Putin.
Not until they get a lot better at killing Russians will he really care what they say or do.
Self-help is still the rule in conflicts between nations, especially those in the shadow of a nuclear power.
FBaggins
(26,757 posts)"Aw gee... tough luck... but these things happen"
But obviously the adults DO care (and have made the exercise very costly for Putin). They just haven't stooped to the bully's level and punched him in the nose.
You may be right... That may be all a bully understanding... but it doesn't mean that he's right.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Russia has a few centuries of this behavior--(1) expansionist nationalism; and (2) national pride in being able to endure suffering and deprivation. Sanctions give them a chance to demonstrate their virtue by suffering the consequences.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)Please explain such a smear.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Robert Parry. Nuland. Neo-nazis. John McCain. 2 Broke Girls.
There, understand now?
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uhnope
(6,419 posts)Since the OP is about Russia vs. Ukraine, and you've called the head of Ukraine a Nazi, how would you describe Putin? Is there any way that fascist does not fit? Or do you have a more positive impression. Hero? Savior? Strong Man? Or just use another cartoon to express your opinion, if that is more your style.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)More than a dozen Russian military units linked by media reports to the fighting in eastern Ukraine have refused to disclose their casualty figures for 2013-14, while one that provided the data showed a rise in soldier deaths from zero to six, a news report said Thursday.
The St. Petersburg branch of the Soldiers' Mothers Committee an organization that defends conscripts' rights sent requests to military units that soldiers' families and media reports had identified as suffering losses last year, including in eastern Ukraine, the Vedomosti business daily reported Thursday, citing the group's spokesman Alexander Peredruk.
A total of 17 units have responded so far with all but one with refusing to disclose their casualty data, the report said. The one unit that provided information said it had lost six soldiers since July 2014 compared to no casualties a year earlier, according to Vedomosti. The report did not identify the unit nor specify how many soldiers it comprised.
The military units cited various reasons for their refusal to provide casualty data to the Soldiers' Mothers Committee, from saying the information constituted a state secret, to directing inquiries to higher military command, Vedomosti reported.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-military-units-linked-to-ukraine-hide-casualty-figures-report-says/515802.html