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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:15 AM Feb 2015

IS militant 'Jihadi John' named as Mohammed Emwazi from London

Source: BBC

The masked Islamic State militant known as "Jihadi John", who has been pictured in the videos of the beheadings of Western hostages, has been named.

The BBC understands he is Mohammed Emwazi, a British man believed to be from West London, who was known to British security services.

They chose not to disclose his name earlier for operational reasons.

Emwazi first appeared in a video last August, when he apparently killed the American journalist James Foley.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31637090



‘Jihadi John’: The Islamic State killer behind the mask is a young Londoner

LONDON — The world knows him as “Jihadi John,” the masked man with a British accent who has beheaded several hostages held by the Islamic State and who taunts audiences in videos circulated widely online.

But his real name, according to friends and others familiar with his case, is Mohammed Emwazi, a Briton from a well-to-do family who grew up in West London and graduated from college with a degree in computer programming. He is believed to have traveled to Syria around 2012 and to have later joined the Islamic State, the group whose barbarity he has come to symbolize.

“I have no doubt that Mohammed is Jihadi John,” said one of Emwazi’s close friends who identified him in an interview with The Washington Post. “He was like a brother to me. .?.?. I am sure it is him.”

A representative of a British human rights group who had been in contact with Emwazi before he left for Syria also said he believed Emwazi was Jihadi John, a moniker given to him by some of the hostages he once held.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/jihadi-john-the-islamic-state-killer-behind-the-mask-is-a-young-londoner/2015/02/25/d6dbab16-bc43-11e4-bdfa-b8e8f594e6ee_story.html?hpid=z1
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IS militant 'Jihadi John' named as Mohammed Emwazi from London (Original Post) Bosonic Feb 2015 OP
Whatever his name is DFW Feb 2015 #1
Absolutely agree. Take the spotlight... YvonneCa Feb 2015 #6
If only he had a job and a future... TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #9
Agreed. (And kudos to our best selling author, for letting me read it long ago.) freshwest Feb 2015 #17
I want that man dead .... He enjoys killing innocent people who can't fight back Botany Feb 2015 #2
My thoughts exactly! hamsterjill Feb 2015 #5
So you're in favor of boots on the ground? philosslayer Feb 2015 #8
Yes, send in the Army, Navy, Marines, National Guard, and the South Dakota Cub Scouts. Botany Feb 2015 #11
Agreed alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #12
Holding the Brownies in reserve in case shit really gets serious? nt hack89 Feb 2015 #14
No the Girl Scouts Botany Feb 2015 #15
Prefer something more high tech. freshwest Feb 2015 #18
I do too Botany Feb 2015 #19
somEthing like what took bin laden out JI7 Feb 2015 #21
His name is Mohammed? All this time, I've been calling him "Dick"... Cooley Hurd Feb 2015 #3
What this fucking imbecile doesn't realize is that at some point he'll be Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #4
Now that he's been positively ID'd, I suggest that he can probably stop buying bullwinkle428 Feb 2015 #7
I'd be looking over my shoulder bpj62 Feb 2015 #10
To quote another poster.... Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #13
More of a geographical matter, don't you think? Not sure how you connect the two. freshwest Feb 2015 #22
I liked him better when he was just plain Jihadi John. candelista Feb 2015 #16
It's worth reading the whole BBC piece. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #20
Only one thing to do... Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #26
like al Qaeda before it, I take every story about ISIS with a dumptruck of salt. yurbud Feb 2015 #23
I wonder how much his problem with British intelligence had to do with his radicalization candelista Feb 2015 #24
Its on us I'm afraid Abouttime Feb 2015 #25
No, it's on him. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #27
Of course it is. But I am fascinated as to how ISIL manages to get British people or Americans randys1 Feb 2015 #28
And now he beheads journalists. I would do the same thing in those circumstances. Throd Feb 2015 #29

DFW

(54,436 posts)
1. Whatever his name is
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:27 AM
Feb 2015

He is one barbaric, sadistic evil character, and I don't want to hear about him again unless it's either his permanent confinement to a mental institution or his obituary.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
2. I want that man dead .... He enjoys killing innocent people who can't fight back
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:33 AM
Feb 2015

Let's see how tough he is when a Navy SEAL team or a squad of British Commandos are
outside of his house @ 4:00 AM.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
19. I do too
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 04:16 PM
Feb 2015

But if we get actionable information and we can get in, get the job done, and get out
I'm fine w/that too.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
3. His name is Mohammed? All this time, I've been calling him "Dick"...
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 09:12 AM
Feb 2015

He's a fucking punk-ass, whatever his name is...

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
4. What this fucking imbecile doesn't realize is that at some point he'll be
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:36 AM
Feb 2015

considered to be "not pious enough" by one of his more sociopathic colleagues. Then what? Maybe a video of him crying for his mommy before it's lights out?

bpj62

(999 posts)
10. I'd be looking over my shoulder
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:07 PM
Feb 2015

If they can find Bin Laden then they will find this guy. Once there is a price on his head someone will rat him out and that will be the end of him. We didn't have boots on the ground in Pakistan and we got Bin Laden so this guy will be found as well. Just a matter of time.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
16. I liked him better when he was just plain Jihadi John.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 03:53 PM
Feb 2015

He's a great MC, but "Mohammed Emwazi" is not a great stage name.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
20. It's worth reading the whole BBC piece.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 04:19 PM
Feb 2015

It seems like the process of radicalization and the process of trying to stop it ended up in even deeper radicalization. What a conundrum.

This guy thought he was getting a raw deal from British authorities.

Not excusing his actions, but how do we break this cycle?

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
26. Only one thing to do...
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:39 PM
Feb 2015

We should bend over backwards ...give them jobs, money, homes.

These poor people are perpetually offended.

We shouldn't offend them.

I'm sure burqas can be very stylish.

Who are we to judge ?







/sarcasm

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
23. like al Qaeda before it, I take every story about ISIS with a dumptruck of salt.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 05:31 PM
Feb 2015

The group probably exists and probably is doing many of the bad things mentioned in the news, but our government and NATO are likely shaping and exaggerating the groups image to suit their geopolitical and economic purposes.

If they were really upset about their religious extremism and even beheadings, we would be getting an authorization of force to invade Saudi Arabia (which is also where we would likely be going if Obama ever releases the Saudi pages of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11).

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
24. I wonder how much his problem with British intelligence had to do with his radicalization
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 05:49 PM
Feb 2015

From the article:

On a visit to London in 2010, he was detained by British counter-terrorism officials and prevented from flying back to Kuwait, his friends said. "I had a job waiting for me and marriage to get started," Emwazi wrote in a June 2010 email to Cage.... But now I feel like a prisoner, only not in a cage, in London," he added, "a person imprisoned and controlled by security service men, stopping me from living my new life in my birthplace and country, Kuwait."
 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
25. Its on us I'm afraid
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:25 PM
Feb 2015

We in the west bear the responsibility for creating these monsters. Our ill fated, doomed from the start war with Iraq and the Taliban led to this. Our treatment of peaceful Muslims in the USA and Britan, infiltrating their places of worship, denying them the right to travel freely, ensnaring them in FBI and MI5 stings, Guantanamo and black sites, torture, incinerating innocents with drones, our continued support of dictatorships ie. the house of saud, the list goes on and on.
I for one am very happy our administration doesn't use terms like 'Islamic terrorism'. What is needed is a ratcheting down of rhetoric and a move to a more peaceful resolution to the many problems in the Middle East. The more we bomb and drone the more terrorists we will create. Yes I believe this jihiadi john is an evil character, but he wasn't that way until he was hounded by the British authorities. If you look into his history he was a fairly normal Muslim British young man with hopes and dreams like all young men. When his hopes and dreams were denied by the authorities, all he wanted to do was travel to Kuwait to marry his bride, he began to turn against the authority that had targeted him, a not at all uncommon story in human history. Oppression begets violence.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
28. Of course it is. But I am fascinated as to how ISIL manages to get British people or Americans
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:47 PM
Feb 2015

to buy into their cause.

To give up everything and offer to die, basically.

What is their appeal that makes it so strong?

We cant go back and stop W and Cheney from committing mass murder, they did it, it is over and done.

What we have to do now is resolve this broken mess, which means we have to ask ourselves how much of this mess, that we are


ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONSIBLE FOR,

are we willing to clean up and how?

And when I say WE I am painfully aware that I dont mean me, I mean YOUR son or daughter. Or mine, I guess.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
29. And now he beheads journalists. I would do the same thing in those circumstances.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:11 PM
Feb 2015

You can own it if you want to.

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