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Omaha Steve

(99,710 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:18 PM Feb 2015

Vandalism in Arizona shows the Internet's vulnerability

Source: AP-Excite

By FELICIA FONSECA

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. (AP) — Computers, cellphones and landlines in Arizona were knocked out of service for hours, ATMs stopped working, 911 systems were disrupted and businesses were unable to process credit card transactions — all because vandals sliced through a fiber-optic Internet cable buried in the rocky desert.

The Internet outage did more than underscore just how dependent modern society has become on high technology. It raised questions about the vulnerability of the nation's Internet infrastructure.

Alex Juarez, a spokesman for Internet service provider CenturyLink, said the problem was first reported around noon Wednesday, with customer complaints pouring in from an area extending from the northern edges of Phoenix to cities like Flagstaff, Prescott, Page and Sedona. Service began coming back within a few hours and was reported fully restored by about 3 a.m. Thursday.

CenturyLink blamed vandalism, and police are investigating.

FULL story at link.



Zak Holland opens up a computer at a store on the Northern Arizona University campus in Flagstaff, Ariz., Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2015. Much of the region was experiencing an Internet and phone outage that was linked to vandalism of a fiber-optic line. (AP Photo/Felicia Fonseca)

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150226/us--northern_arizona-internet_outage-024daa87a3.html

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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. Not very familiar with the Borg, I take it?
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 04:48 AM
Feb 2015
Learn yourself some stuff

Of course society is "dependent" on it. Same reason we're dependant on roads and airports, for much the same reasons.

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Kali

(55,019 posts)
4. they also don't get in any kind of hurry when their cables are exposed by washouts
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 12:42 AM
Feb 2015

I pretty much had to threaten to use a hacksaw a few years ago to get them to at least fill in THEIR cuts, much less to any actual maintenance on the R-o-W.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
9. Either that, or the networks are such a mess because of acquisitions that someone overlooked
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 03:18 PM
Feb 2015

a potential problem, because it's a complex mess that is probably impossible for a anyone to have a complete understanding of what's going on. So even the people who routinely muck around in that area of the network may not have the big picture view of everything. I don't even think the superstars could spot everything.

There is also the possibility of a misconfiguration that caused this. A very long time ago I was working on the IP engineering side of a cable company, and we had a major outage due to a fiber line being severed (construction was the cause in this case, I believe) The were other physical routes that could be taken, but due to a routing misconfiguration, those alternate paths went unused. To fix it, a short-term fix of adding a floating static route was implemented, with the intent to come up with a more permanent solution later. I wouldn't be surprised if that quick fix is still there.

After working with more than few service provider networks (including CenturyLinks), I'm amazed any this stuff works as well as it does.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
12. Yeah, I see a number of possibilities (I was a CIO since before the term was coined) ...
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:33 PM
Feb 2015

... but it doesn't take a genius, just a thorough effort ($$$) to document and test what you have and more $$$ to complete the necessary redundancy.

If it's a misconfiguration, then testing was inadequate, probably because they tried to do it on the cheap.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. this is why ALL americans deserve free satellite wifi for basic internet
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:23 AM
Feb 2015

a single line cut should not leave entire states helpless!

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
10. Everyone having wireless links wouldn't prevent this.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 03:25 PM
Feb 2015

You might reach a base station or whatever via the air, but unless all the backhauls are made wireless, you're still going to have your traffic sent over fiber at some point. Someone cuts that link, then you're pretty much screwed if the network isn't designed or configured correctly to handle it.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
11. Satellite wifi is awful.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:33 PM
Feb 2015

The current Iridium satellite wifi maxes out at 0.2Mbit, and the "next generation" system going online this year only does 1.5Mbit...pathetically slow by modern broadband standards. It's really only useful in places where NO other options exist.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
8. I was a network engineer at CenturyLink a few years back...
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 03:05 PM
Feb 2015

The fact this was able to completely knock off large amount of customers shows how screwed up their networks are. Most the problems I had was dealing with all the different networks they acquired from the various companies.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
13. Hi and welcome to DU
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:38 PM
Feb 2015

Seems strange there was no redundancy for this area. Just the ability to say we use fiber-optic.

Also in the article (poorly written) technicians had to inspect the line mile by mile. That is non-sense, once a cable is cut it becomes a mirror at the end, thus a light pulse can determine the cable length. Of course, we are not suppose to know that.

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