GOP lawmaker: Gay people “don’t have a right to be served in every single store”
Source: Salon
Thursday, Mar 5, 2015 04:30 PM CST
GOP lawmaker: Gay people dont have a right to be served in every single store
Oklahoma's Joseph Silk defends anti-LGBT "license to discriminate" legislation
Luke Brinker
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State Sen. Joseph Silk (R-OK) (Credit: OKGOP/YouTube screenshot
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As the country marches toward nationwide marriage equality and polls show record levels of support for same-sex marriage, theres a fierce anti-gay backlash underway that imperils some of the most basic rights of the countrys LGBT citizens: Under the guise of protecting religious liberty, conservative lawmakers across the country are proposing bills that would allow businesses and individuals not to serve gay people, provided that they discriminate based on their religious beliefs. Among the states to consider such license-to-discriminate legislation is Oklahoma, where the bills chief Republican sponsor flatly states that gay people dont have a right to be served in every single store.
State Sen. Joseph Silk made that statement in an interview with the New York Times, which examines the broader push for so-called religious freedom laws in a story published online Thursday. Silk told the Times that he while he knows real, breathing homosexuals and even considers some his friends, he nevertheless sees gay people as the top threat to religious liberty. The L.G.B.T. movement is the main thing, the primary thing thats going to be challenging religious liberties and the freedom to live out religious convictions, Silk said. And I say that sensitively, because I have homosexual friends.
They dont have a right to be served in every single store, he added. People need to have the ability to refuse service if its violates their religious convictions.
Give Silk some credit. While other supporters of legislation allowing anti-LGBT discrimination glide over the measures real-life consequences, he readily owns up to them: If Silks bill becomes law, it would mean businesses and individuals denying services to gay people, whom he considers unworthy of equal protection under the law.
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MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)is part of his natural makeup...of course, he could fake it, and wear a Rand Paul squirrel on his head, and hide his natural appearance ... but those of us who know a squirrel when we see one, either disguised as a congressman, or sitting on a congressman's head, why, we know.....
Oh wait...gotta toss in one of these for the irony-impaired...
Can't be too careful these days~!
olegramps
(8,200 posts)louis-t
(23,295 posts)Asswipe.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
Skittles
(153,169 posts)so non-homophobes can refuse to do business with them?
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)f***
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)put the shoe on the other foot see how he likes it.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)And I would bet he'd be OK with saying that about black people, too.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)Delphinus
(11,831 posts)Why can't lawmakers see that this is the exact same issue?
Maraya1969
(22,483 posts)and over.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)If businesses don't want to serve LGBT people they just need to advertise the fact that they don't want to. I don't want to give a red cent to these businesses, so I would thank them. So they could request that gay people not come to their business, but if someone who is gay does go there, tough shit bigots.
They just might be surprised how much business they would lose. I know my family and friends wouldn't want to spend money there either.
Of course I don't live in Oklahoma either. Hopefully LGBT people have supportive friends and family out there.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)they need to put a notice on their door or website who they don't welcome so we can all decide - yes indeed
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)This would advertise that their religious beliefs compel them to be a complete asshole, and we could steer way the fuck away.
Note: This is not a slur against all Christians; just the Talibornagain sort that just can't stop hating the LGBT community.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)republicans are always on about that, until the market does what they don't want it to.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)Black people dont have a right to be served in every single store.
Jews dont have a right to be served in every single store.
"Women dont have a right to be served in every single store.
"Christians dont have a right to be served in every single store.
People with disabilities dont have a right to be served in every single store.
Since he's a GOPer, he might actually agree with all of them them (except for the one about Christians, of course). But it's well established that places of public accommodation (meaning commercial businesses, stores, hotels, etc.) don't have the right to refuse to do business with particular classes of people, whether for religious or any other reason. So why would gay people be treated differently - because he doesn't approve of the way they have sex, which he is not obligated to do, watch, or even think about? I really don't get these people, at all.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)they were one of the businesses who spoke up... before Brewer vetoed the bill.
I hope they do the same in Oklahoma.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)that was great - AA said f*** that, as I recall
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)that every single store will have to install one of those walk thru Gay Folk detector machines? I bet his brother in law has the only franchise to sell those in his state.
People ,,,, I have beening saying it for 6 years now..... Rethugism is some type of incurable disease of the Brain.
christx30
(6,241 posts)creating a commercially viable Gaydar. They are currently too large and use too much electricity for most businesses to own.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)It's against my religion to cater to dumbasses.
How would Shinehead like that?
mindem
(1,580 posts)no repuke has the right to served in every single store. The religious right in this country is so far removed from what I believe I find it compromises my faith to support most of what they do. I certainly feel no obligation to fall in line with their warped idea of faith.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)He can spot gays a mile away? Who knew?
He should speak for himself - bald and wearing a "pink" shirt and all.
Sheesh, what a f**kbag.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)Pot meet kettle, motherfucker. If you've seen one fanatical religion, you've seen them all.....
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)I'm sure Silk would appreciate that bit of sensitivity......
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and acts of horrible violence around the world. This is how they wish to be seen, as absolute assholes.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)discrimination, hate speech and acts of horrible violence. It's all over the place! Here's what they seem to want to return to!
procon
(15,805 posts)Why stop there?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)phylny
(8,380 posts)although I'm a Christian), then should every store owner have the right to decide which "sinful" people they won't serve.
I mean, let's be fair! Liars? Divorced people? Adulterers?
The stupidity.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)what I was thinking.
christx30
(6,241 posts)on why they should not accept gays. They think homosexuality is a sin, no different from adultery, drug use, divorce, ect. They say "why should we celebrate one sin and condemn the others?" So your arguement kind of folds into theirs.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)THey have no platform for jobs
They have no platform for healthcare
They have no platform for climate change fixes
They have no platform for economic issues
They have a platform of hate, hatred of gay, hatred of immigrants, hatred of black, hatred of asian, hatred of muslim, hatred of jewish.
This is not complicated.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)whereas being gay is a condition of birth, so I think we have far more right to discriminate against Christians than gays.
What say ye, fuckers?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)another Geritol Old Party a-hole with backward beliefs
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)women, any sex, whatever they don't like, if it interferes with their religion. Isn't that really what he's saying? Religion overrules laws of common decency? I would like to see a psychological profile workup on this guy. Usually individuals holding views like this have a lot going on in their heads. So, next time this guy needs help with anything, one can just say, hey buddy, your request interferes with my religion, get lost!
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Chipper Chat
(9,680 posts)So fabulous.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)He looks just like a friend of mine, who happens to be a really nice guy.
Looks really can be deceiving.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)friends that look like absolute tea baggers, for example, and they were just the opposite.
Botany
(70,516 posts)public roads
public water
fire and police protection
natural gas service
electricity service
the USPS
any employees get that flu shots
any employee who used public schools
any employee who has kids in public schools
data from the national weather service
any broadcast that is covered by the FCC
any employee that eats food that has been inspected by the USDA
social security
Medicaid
and so on ...... why do I want to punch that a-hole?
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)He would be much happier, and sensitive, if he would just accept his own sexuality.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I will always speak out; yes INDEED
Bartlet
(172 posts)that bigots like this guy always have gay friends? What gay person would call this ignorant religious zealot a friend? Kind of like a Klansman claiming he has black friends right before torching their church.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)This is my state, so it could affect me. This type of shit is getting really, really old!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)just sayin, not that it means anything. But, maybe I don't have to make him a sandwich if he comes into my store. You know if I am religious and all that.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)I'll just bet he would tell me that's wrong.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)Mr. Smith doesn't have the right to be served in every single place either.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Let us all step back and remember why these laws exist in the first place. What was it like when traveling in a Shaker area to learn they would only trade with other Shakers? Luxury items are the trivial case that represents the nose under the fence. It comes down to what about basics like food and water. Should it be legal for group such as the Shakers to sell such only to others of their faith? Should we also ask if a Shaker Cop has a duty to do anything about a crime being perpetrated against a non-Shaker? And so can't the Church of New England do likewise to anyone not a member of their church? Certainly they applied their laws about Church attendance to those not of their faith.
Whoever infringes the rights of the Least of Us, Tramples upon the Rights of all of us.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Fuckwad...
BuddhaGirl
(3,608 posts)but it's been removed!!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The homegrown ISIS are coming for ya!
Wrapped in the flag, carrying a Bible and a AR-15, you betcha!
Wella
(1,827 posts)products that a given business does not have or does not make. No one has a right to that.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)It's called the Constitution - you might want to read it some time Mr. Silk.