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Judi Lynn

(160,587 posts)
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:11 PM Mar 2015

Police: Officer fatally shoots naked man in Atlanta suburb

Source: Associated Press

Police: Officer fatally shoots naked man in Atlanta suburb
By KATHLEEN FOODY, Associated Press | March 9, 2015

TUCKER, Ga. (AP) — Authorities say a police officer fatally shot a naked man on Monday afternoon outside a suburban Atlanta apartment complex who doesn't appear to have been armed.

Chief of Police Cedric Alexander in greater Atlanta's DeKalb County says the officer responded to reports of a suspicious person knocking on doors and crawling on the ground naked.

The chief says the officer saw a naked man in the complex parking lot and that the man began running toward the officer. Alexander says the officer told the man to halt while stepping back. Alexander says the officer then fired two shots when the man didn't stop. Their identities weren't released.

Alexander said at a news conference that no weapon was found and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has taken charge of the investigation.




Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Police-Officer-fatally-shoots-naked-man-in-6124444.php



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Police: Officer fatally shoots naked man in Atlanta suburb (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2015 OP
At least the idiot cop . . . Brigid Mar 2015 #1
PD chief to officer: was he armed? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #2
What's the excuse? Newest Reality Mar 2015 #3
Why Even Have Tasers Or Clubs billhicks76 Mar 2015 #17
Exactly This Officer Had Less Lethal Weapons At His Disposal Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #27
Is anyone else bothered by that first sentence? PADemD Mar 2015 #4
Not me because it goes on to say later that he ran at the officer which was dumb. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #6
Didn't run toward "anyone". Ran toward a trained peace officer who has a duty to respond and jtuck004 Mar 2015 #11
If it was me the last thing I would do these days is run cstanleytech Mar 2015 #12
I agree. Most likely he wasn't thinking clearly, precisely the time he needed someone to jtuck004 Mar 2015 #16
I was referring to the grammar. PADemD Mar 2015 #14
The grammar matches the common state of today's journalism. ManiacJoe Mar 2015 #18
Switching around the clause doesn't change the sense of it. Demit Mar 2015 #19
I think it does. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #26
So, they're hiring weaklings as cops now? He viewed a naked man as a lethal threat? PSPS Mar 2015 #5
No hand to hand combat training? SCVDem Mar 2015 #7
Some men have a real aversion to touching a naked man. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #22
It's open season now that cops can kill without cause. US is turning into the armpit of the modern whereisjustice Mar 2015 #8
It comes to this; anyone in the United States can be shot and killed by any armed policeman. gordianot Mar 2015 #9
While I'm a bit of a prude, and don't think people should be running around in public naked, SheilaT Mar 2015 #10
My thought was that maybe he got pushed and locked out of his house/apartment by a "prankster". Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #15
Maybe a little "overkill"? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #23
Cop obviously failed basic training Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #13
What on earth are they teaching in police adademies these days? Vinca Mar 2015 #20
Culturally I think that is out the window rwsanders Mar 2015 #24
What if he was a crime victim? coffeenap Mar 2015 #21
It would have made too much sense to investigate his situation first. Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #25
maybe this man viewed the policeman UpInArms Mar 2015 #28

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
2. PD chief to officer: was he armed?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:15 PM
Mar 2015

O: he was naked.
PDC: no, did he have any arms?
O: I said, he was naked.
PDC: did he have arms?
O: Well, yeah, he had two arms.
PDC: OK, so we write the report, he was armed and dangerous.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
17. Why Even Have Tasers Or Clubs
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:17 AM
Mar 2015

If they are afraid of naked people all of a sudden. Our country has imploded.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
4. Is anyone else bothered by that first sentence?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:20 PM
Mar 2015

Shouldn't it be:

Authorities say a police officer fatally shot a naked man, who didn't appear to have been armed, on Monday afternoon outside a suburban Atlanta apartment complex.

cstanleytech

(26,305 posts)
6. Not me because it goes on to say later that he ran at the officer which was dumb.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:12 PM - Edit history (1)

And no I'm not saying the shooting was justified just that in general running towards anyone armed with a freaking gun in this kind of situation is dumb.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. Didn't run toward "anyone". Ran toward a trained peace officer who has a duty to respond and
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:12 PM
Mar 2015

to follow the policies he or she is trained to follow while enforcing the law. Whether those policies were followed can be evaluated.

Whether that will happen, or whether it will just be an investigation into how to justify the shooting remains to be seen, though I know which I would bet on.


cstanleytech

(26,305 posts)
12. If it was me the last thing I would do these days is run
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:15 PM
Mar 2015

"towards" an armed police officer especially after all the officer related shootings that have been in the news.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
16. I agree. Most likely he wasn't thinking clearly, precisely the time he needed someone to
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:00 AM
Mar 2015

"protect and serve" him. Someone he thought he had provided for, as a citizen along with all the rest of us.

But it appears that far too much those we ask to "serve" just serve themselves.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
19. Switching around the clause doesn't change the sense of it.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:37 AM
Mar 2015

It's not unclear the way it is written. Looks like a judgment call to me.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
26. I think it does.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

It changes what "who" refers to. In this case, the sentence as written appears to imply that the suburban Atlanta apartment complex was unarmed, not the naked man. It's a weird personification and the intended meaning is still clear through context, but taken as written, it is incorrect. Either way, it's awkward and should have been re-written.

Authorities say a police officer fatally shot a naked man on Monday afternoon outside a suburban Atlanta apartment complex who doesn't appear to have been armed.

PSPS

(13,606 posts)
5. So, they're hiring weaklings as cops now? He viewed a naked man as a lethal threat?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:29 PM
Mar 2015

We can at least rest assured that this death-squad member will get the usual paid vacation as a reward for murder. I wonder if his victim was black.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
7. No hand to hand combat training?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:36 PM
Mar 2015

The Bobbies are laughing their asses off reading about our police forces!

Killing a naked person! What a wuss!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
22. Some men have a real aversion to touching a naked man.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:36 AM
Mar 2015

In his homophobic mind, shooting him seemed the answer. Why didn't he have a taser at the ready?

I hope the police officer gets a comeuppance!

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
9. It comes to this; anyone in the United States can be shot and killed by any armed policeman.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:10 PM
Mar 2015

With out regard of age, gender, even if not armed at the discretion of Police as long as the policeman feels threatened. When you are interacting with Police no matter who you may be, you are potentially moments from death.

There are consequences for police, they may need to resign in rare occasions or have to face a wrongful death lawsuit.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
10. While I'm a bit of a prude, and don't think people should be running around in public naked,
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:11 PM
Mar 2015

I do think executing them on the spot is a bit of an overreaction.

Judi Lynn

(160,587 posts)
15. My thought was that maybe he got pushed and locked out of his house/apartment by a "prankster".
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:31 PM
Mar 2015

That has been known to happen occasionally from time to time.

The only others I have heard of, have involved heavy drug use. They don't fare very well, either, but they usually get wrapped up in blankets and taken to jail, if they don't get killed first.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
20. What on earth are they teaching in police adademies these days?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:48 AM
Mar 2015

I was under the impression deadly force was the LAST resort, not the first.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
24. Culturally I think that is out the window
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:24 PM
Mar 2015

I had listened into a conversation a cop was having with someone else about Ferguson (should have left it alone) but I commented how as a USCG reservist I was a bit concerned that someone would mistake us as cops (long story but our current uniforms look like cop uniforms) and mentioned an incident where a member was surrounded by a group of young african-american males saying "what are you going to do now cop". The cop said he should have ran them over as "his life was threatened".
The level of threat is no longer the issue to them. It is an excuse to use force to get what they want. And what they want appears to be to be judge, jury and executioner; and to enforce compliance with whatever else they want at the time (someone to stop whatever, someone to shut up, etc.). Just as previously they invent probable cause or reasonable suspicion to search and stop whomever they want.
In otherwords, unless they are held accountable somewhere they will only get worse.

coffeenap

(3,173 posts)
21. What if he was a crime victim?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015

The police could not have known the circumstances that caused him act this way. I am remembering the case of the vile person here in Illinois-Wisconsin who victimized young men, one of whom survived by escaping, without clothes, from his imprisonment and torture. I just cannot comprehend the thinking of these "protectors".

Judi Lynn

(160,587 posts)
25. It would have made too much sense to investigate his situation first.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:36 PM
Mar 2015

He was helpless: how much would they risk, really, to act like adults?

Thanks for your comment. Good point.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
28. maybe this man viewed the policeman
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:43 PM
Mar 2015

as someone who would help him? and that is why he went toward the police - knowing that it would be obvious that he was unarmed?

oh my

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