I think he was making the case that Biden should have been un-caged or unleashed to attack like he is now. Unless I missed something?

Not post #1 or we wouldn't be able to read it...BTW I have no idea what that response was!

Because he said Biden was 150% correct. But then made then troll comment, showing that he thought poster #1 was smearing Biden.

I think #1 was saying that Obama should have let Biden answer back publicly to the gop every time they pulled an ugly stunt.

I agree with poster #1, Biden should have been the loud and clear public voice to speak out against the gop abuses.

Characterizing it as something from "an obvious Repuke troll" is way the hell off target.

Obama has been way too polite and accommodating with his Republican adversaries over the years. Biden is giving them the treatment they deserve, here.

Mr. "Nice Guy" President.

but I can dream can't I?

I am so livid about these *T$%&%&*%s that if I did say what I feel, I'd probably get tombstoned.

I want them to suffer major consequences without making us suffer along with them.

you join their team when you do that. Wish instead that they will awaken from their paranoid delusions and hateful condescension. Hatred makes you stupid, and it has certainly made them stupid.

i am disgusted and ashamed for my country. I wish they experience the consequences of their actions borne of their hatred and there is nothing wrong with that. As others here have suggested, I too think they are beyond redemption - the ability to see the error of their ways.

Whatever suffering comes of their being shown that what they do is unacceptable - since they have seen to it that they are rarely if ever held accountable - will be of their choosing. They have done real damage to this nation and its citizens and they must be held accountable even though I don't expect to see it in my lifetime. (and with that I hope I don't last a really long time. They have caused me great suffering - past, present and into the foreseeable future - and I have had enough of it.)

That's how I see, whether I articulated that clearly earlier or not, and I'm sticking to it.

as I am a Buddhist in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition. I have no doubt that the actions of the RW hate mongers will only cause themselves and others immense suffering. Not so easy to understand and accept is the notion that my own suffering and misfortunes are the fruition of my own bad karma from my own thoughts, words, and deeds.

and delivered response. It echos a lot of what I feel, lately.

he has high standards of preserving dignity and justice (for all, i might add). he is mr. cool and has his own delivery. we may not see it outright - but you can be assured - he will respond/act.

that he not be classy and calm as is his manner, but I hope he nails them hard to a brick wall. I haven't decided whether to hold my breath on this one, it's hard to when events of the day make me sick to my stomach and seriously consider becoming an expat.

For good or bad our president does not react based on primitive emotions like many in the GOP do. His reaction if any will be well thought out. He is not the guy to follow if you are into getting your rocks off by stepping on other people, he keeps his eye on the big prize.

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I'm not sure if he's following orders or if his personality just precludes him from ever fighting back no matter how egregious the insult, but I am confident that he will do nothing

They deserve severe and immediate consequences for their actions. If they cannot be charged with treason, then they should be removed from office by whatever means are available.

I cannot understand why ANY of their constituency would continue to support them. They are beyond redemption. They do not deserve one scintilla of respect from anyone.

they are assured for the rest of their miserable lives.

Wait a minute are the Democrats being incredibly unreasonable regarding information sent in a letter Iran should already be well aware, they know Presidents come & go away after only 2 terms. Highly misleading? OK but this is very odd switching of places right now. Usually it is the Republicans that act like Biden.

I don't even know what this means.

I don't know what is really offensive about the letter or what is even misleading about it. What I mean is typically when a Democrat does something, the Republicans oversell it as so much worse than it really is. That is how feel about anger or "treason", it is just very odd to be seeing done the other way.

Obviously taking up this view is going to bring up numerous ulterior motive accusations or assumptions but all I can say is this is not a road we don't want to be going down or I won't follow the party down it since it is so unnecessary but certainly the Republicans would be the first ones to do it if the roles were reversed.

The democrats have never gone down.

They were trying to help hardliners in Tehran scrap negotiations by convincing them that there was no point in negotiating with the President of the United States of America.

Because they want negotiations to fail.

Because they want a war.

Because they are war pigs.

I mean intellectual honesty regarding this letter. Threatening Iran with war, they are used to it by it now. Regarding why Iran would need "un-precedented transparency" well Obama would have tougher demands than me or I'd practice what I preach.

Wanting negotiations to fail has been obvious a long time, they invited the Israeli PM to speak in Congress which was something that definitely did bother me. Not that I saw it as anything close to Treason, it is different bringing a head of a state in the US Congress of all places a very different thing.

so the misleading claim was debunked early. I view the letter as basically if Iran doesn't already know how US government functions which I highly doubt, the letter wasn't offensive in any case & a lot of what the Republicans do & say offends me.

Given where Iranian leadership went to school, its no surprise they 'get it.'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026339245

BENGHAZI and whether Hillary used Gmail or Yahoo.

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Where the GOP can disrespect anyone they choose, joke about rape and exclude women and minorities.

They take away the civil rights and livelihoods of millions to make big money for their retirement.

They don't follow the laws they pass that hurt others, and get drunk on the job.

They are scum who refuse to do anything for the majority of the American people.

while they were there.

Operative word being should. Someone needs to tell the President that the FOX "News" and Rush Limbaugh never ending Masturbatoriums of Hate will complain no matter what he does, so he might as well have them mad at him for doing the right thing.

and will face the consequences in their re-election attempts.

Hold them to it, for ffs. There has been nothing so craven in US history.

the letter just makes the Iranians
aware of the obvious

If the US were to go back on an agreement they entered into with the UK, Germany, Iran, China and France, there would be massive repercussions with the other nations involved. The Republicans are massively overstating their power, and the power the US has in these negotiations. Unless they want to enter a war with just Israel in their pocket against Russia, China and Iran, even they need allies. You don't gain those by spitting in the face of those who dealt with you in good faith.

Which brings us to the real problem with the current crop of Republicans, they can't see the big picture for their overly inflated egos. Which is why they have no concept of diplomacy or the negotiations involved in such.

but the problem is...

does Iran think they are getting a Treaty from the US?
they are not, (not sure what Iran believes)... but many people
around the world think that a
US President can put a treaty into effect by himself,
he cannot.

We seem to delude ourselves a bit too often. If you follow the foreign press, they talk about the other parties involved. In the US, it's framed as just the US and Iran, which isn't the case. No nation goes into such negotiations alone. They need their allies to help further their cause, which both sides have in this case.

than people in the US,

at the same time, they seem
to believe that a US President has the powers
of a King. the Prez does not.

I seem to have missed the articles in the foreign press saying the US president has the powers of a king. What country are we talking about here? Is it one of our allies or some other nation which is mistakenly idol worshiping the US?

discussing US treaty issues with
various (English speaking) people
around the world.

Individuals take a somewhat different slant on what's real at times. The US is a perfect example of such.

agreement' with the UK, Germany, Iran, China and France. The danger, of course, is that an R president would be crazy enough to do just that in the interest of the 'cowboy diplomacy' that they are famous for.

The obious is that the GOP is back in the gutter with all the wheels of their chu chu,

What is the GOP going to do, poke a stick in all our allies eyes? I think at least five of our closest allies are working on an agreement.

It is sad that the GOP has any say in anything given what they did to Iraq.

This all sure puts the matter of Hillary's private email address into proper perspective, doesn't it...?



Check out Rocky Mountain Mike, he nails them in this Soundcloud spoof:

https://soundcloud.com/rockymountainmike/theleaderofiran

...when he is pissed off blue, kicking asses and taking names.

GO JOE!

I hope he runs.

He is one of my all time favorite Politicians.

seem like joe is up to some mad rage. Joe did what a good VP should do. Sen. Cotton was on Morning Joe today saying Biden was wrong just like he always is on foreign policy.

Biden reportedly said, in part,

Harsh words aren't enough and Biden's not the guy to stand up to these Republicans. Senate and House Dems should be talking about the Logan Act and prosecution for treason. It meets all the tests. Fight fire with fire. It's the only language they'll understand. They're counting on us to cry and whimper, then doing nothing. We always do. Time for Dems to stand strongly behind our President.

When the link is in the subject line you cannot click on it and have it take you directly there, this would make access easier especially for those like me posting from a mobile device...

Thank-You

This crowd does not respect the dignity of the Senate, let alone do they have any respect for the President. They only went to DC to fulfill their own RW extremist agenda. In the past, the likes of Cruz, Paul and the rest of the Tea Party wackadoos would have never made it to Congress. I blame the idiots who voted for them.

Kudos to Biden for expressing his outrage. What these senators did was a disgrace and an embarrassment to the country.

Possibly even the best Vice President of all time! I am so proud to have had the opportunity to be able to cast my very first vote ever for President Obama & Vice President Joe Biden & I still have their backs!

shout it, Joe!

He needs to move quickly and establish himself as a voice of authority and reason.

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My FAVORITE image of the day. Maybe of the week. Maybe of the whole YEAR!!!!

No. I take that back. Maybe of the whole EVER!!!!!!!!!!

FINALLY, they're calling these bastards what they ARE.

This is what you get when you let them pull all these BS stunts for so many years without calling them out. Did you really think they would stop, burn themselves out, see the wrong in their ways? Hell no this BS should have been stopped 4 years ago, now their arrogance is pissing you off, Jesus what took you so long...

6 years ago, this shit should have been nipped in the bud with some righteous ass kicking, metaphorically speaking, of course..

Charge them with violating the Logan Act!