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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:40 AM Mar 2015

Apple targeted by CIA spies for years, say new Snowden documents

Source: The Verge, The Intercept

A new report by The Intercept says that researchers working for the CIA have been involved in a "multi-year, sustained effort" to crack Apple security measures on iPhones and iPads. Documents provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden detail a number of initiatives, including an attempt to crack encryption keys implanted into Apple's mobile processor, and a method compromising Xcode — the Apple tool used to create the vast majority of iOS apps.

Although the report doesn't include details of any successful operations against Apple, it highlights the ongoing battle between national security agencies and technology companies, as well as the hypocrisy of the US government. It was only in March this year that President Barack Obama criticized China for its plans forcing tech companies to install security backdoors for government surveillance. Instead, as The Intercept notes, China is only following America's lead.

"If U.S. products are OK to target, that’s news to me," Matthew Green, a cryptography expert at Johns Hopkins University’s Information Security Institute told The Intercept. "Tearing apart the products of U.S. manufacturers and potentially putting backdoors in software distributed by unknowing developers all seems to be going a bit beyond ‘targeting bad guys.’ It may be a means to an end, but it’s a hell of a means."

US researchers' efforts to target Apple's products, as well as those from competitors like Microsoft, were presented at a secret annual CIA-sponsored conference known as the "Jamboree." In a presentation from 2012, researchers from Sandia Labs gave a talk titled "Strawhorse: Attacking the MacOS and iOS Software Development." In it, they showed how a comprised version of Xcode would allow spies to siphon off iPhone and iPad data, create "remote backdoors" on connected Mac computers, and disable core security features on Apple devices. It's not clear how spy agencies would get developers to use the comprised version of the software.


Read more: http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/10/8181531/cia-tagets-apple-xcode-encryption

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Apple targeted by CIA spies for years, say new Snowden documents (Original Post) jakeXT Mar 2015 OP
They were trying to sneak a peak at those ridiculous new watches Orrex Mar 2015 #1
I own a normal watch but I don't wear it, with mp3 players and cell phones there is no need for it jakeXT Mar 2015 #2
Now, now, don't be sanctimonious. These are just patriots protecting America. Scuba Mar 2015 #3
I think it’s important... Alkene Mar 2015 #5
Kinda reminds me of this guy ... Scuba Mar 2015 #6
Obvious cross-product advertising alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #4
Really? billhicks76 Mar 2015 #18
Has anybody else noticed that when the GOP Cryptoad Mar 2015 #7
Interesting Andy823 Mar 2015 #9
Toad Really? billhicks76 Mar 2015 #16
So you have no problem with the substance of the OP? elias49 Mar 2015 #12
That's right elias49 LiberalLovinLug Mar 2015 #14
No But We Do Notice Your Propaganda billhicks76 Mar 2015 #15
Good for you ,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #17
Now we know why Apple was trying to minimize its taxes erronis Mar 2015 #8
The Chinese beat them to it... Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #10
K&R blackspade Mar 2015 #11
LOL, we all know the tech companies, from A to Z, cooperated with intelligence agencies closeupready Mar 2015 #13

Orrex

(63,218 posts)
1. They were trying to sneak a peak at those ridiculous new watches
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:47 AM
Mar 2015

And they were trying to determine whether Apple fanboys might be a dangerous cult.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
2. I own a normal watch but I don't wear it, with mp3 players and cell phones there is no need for it
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:51 AM
Mar 2015

Alkene

(752 posts)
5. I think it’s important...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:44 AM
Mar 2015

when we look back to recall how afraid people were.

And a lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
4. Obvious cross-product advertising
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:41 AM
Mar 2015

Oooof. How much did Apple pay Greenwald to release this today?



Sucker born every minute, I guess.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
18. Really?
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:57 AM
Mar 2015

How much do Greenwald haters get paid by military and NSA contractors who benefit financially by putting us all under police state surveillance?

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
7. Has anybody else noticed that when the GOP
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:20 AM
Mar 2015

ore Papa Paul has a ruff week in MSM exposure,,,,,, we have a new Comrade Snowden story?

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
9. Interesting
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:40 AM
Mar 2015

I am still waiting for that list of names of "everyone" in the US that the NSA was spying on. Did I miss it? It was supposed to be ground breaking news according to Grenwald.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
16. Toad Really?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:21 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Shouldn't he be calling for the gallows for all 47 Republican Senators who committed treason writing that letter to Iran...especially since it's his phony bogeyman Rand Paul(papa is Ron Paul btw so he should go back to school). Why isn't he? Doesn't square with his pro-NSA, military contractor agenda? He should be getting paid for all the anti-freedom, pro-surveillance posts he's famous on here for.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
12. So you have no problem with the substance of the OP?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:44 AM
Mar 2015

It's OK that the CIA is trying to reverse engineer your phone, your PC, your tablet?
Hey. To each according to his/her abilities, I guess.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
14. That's right elias49
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:18 PM
Mar 2015

For the few frightened authoritarian minded on here, whatever Snowden reveals can never ever be helpful or enlightening for the public. If Snowden releases documents showing proof of government malfeasance, and Greenwald writes about it, these craven few , like Pavlovian dogs, start barking that either:

a. Its all redundant information that everyone knew already...so just ignore him (pleeeeeeeeease)

b. What he releases is putting lives in danger, he's a traitor and probably working for Putin, oh...and the Chinese too.

c. All of the above (somehow)


But the #1 rule is simply to take any new revelation with preconceived disdain and contempt, lest they actually find out anything bad in regard to authorities abusing their civil rights, because...um.....er......."USA USA USA USA ...!"

erronis

(15,314 posts)
8. Now we know why Apple was trying to minimize its taxes
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:49 AM
Mar 2015

It knew that most of every $ paid went to fund the black-hats trying to break their security, and obviously destroy the business of anyone who cared about privace.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. The Chinese beat them to it...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:46 AM
Mar 2015

You won't find *that* story on the intercept, though...OR on DU, sadly...

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
13. LOL, we all know the tech companies, from A to Z, cooperated with intelligence agencies
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:40 PM
Mar 2015

in the years after 2001. It may be have slowed down at some point, but it likely hasn't stopped, and I wouldn't trust any promised security/privacy of data on any of their devices as far as I could throw them.

This industry is the same one in which the major players operated illegally as a cartel, keeping wages artifically low insofar as they had unwritten non-compete agreements to not poach talent from each other.

Trusting (without verifying) a liar who claims to have changed is just about the dumbest thing ever.

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