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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:28 PM Mar 2015

Hillary Clinton: No GOP 2016 Hopeful Should Sign Iran Letter

Source: NBC News

The debate about her use of personal emails is still largely consuming the political world, but Hillary Clinton took to Twitter Wednesday to slam potential Republican 2016 candidates for signing a letter to Iranian officials warning against a nuclear deal.

She tweeted:

Hillary Clinton ✔ @HillaryClinton

GOP letter to Iranian clerics undermines American leadership. No one considering running for commander-in-chief should be signing on.

3:11 PM - 11 Mar 2015


The letter was signed by likely GOP candidates Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Rand Paul.

The leader of the GOP effort, freshman Sen. Tom Cotton, fired back:

-snip-

First published March 11th 2015, 3:46 pm



Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-no-gop-2016-hopeful-should-sign-iran-letter-n321696
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Hillary Clinton: No GOP 2016 Hopeful Should Sign Iran Letter (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
oh my! what a remarkable display of insight and leadership. edgineered Mar 2015 #1
For Hillary it is damn if you do or damn if you don't as far as some on DU are concerned still_one Mar 2015 #2
try to think of it in terms of both comments, hers and his. edgineered Mar 2015 #6
Yes, DU has become quite cliquish over the years. Very juvenile. PSPS Mar 2015 #10
you're right on top of things. what is the name of that law? edgineered Mar 2015 #13
Godwin's Law. nt brush Mar 2015 #34
thanks brush edgineered Mar 2015 #39
Hah! You 'lost' me with that one. nt brush Mar 2015 #40
She said something sensible Spider_Mann Mar 2015 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author bigdarryl Mar 2015 #28
The data are compelling Android3.14 Mar 2015 #30
Kinda strange tho. In 2002 she was more than willing to help the Republicons. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #14
we always help our friends, don't we? edgineered Mar 2015 #15
Are you talking about Clinton? If so, I think your response is a bit extreme. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #17
reread post 6 edgineered Mar 2015 #18
You haven't explained what is wrong with her statement. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #22
what is wrong with her statement, cotton's response, and nbc reporting on it edgineered Mar 2015 #24
what she said is true. no one who purports to be president should be openly disparaging the geek tragedy Mar 2015 #27
And Lizzie Warren has said what about this? leftofcool Mar 2015 #29
so in the eyes of Clinton's loyal subjects she is perfect. edgineered Mar 2015 #47
Cool way to rationalize it. I'd hide behind implication too had I said it. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #45
it is what it is. that doesn't make HRC a better candidate. edgineered Mar 2015 #46
What do you want her to say some overheated nonsense about hanging for treason? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #53
Boom! DaDeacon Mar 2015 #3
Happy to be the first rec. Obvious response nt riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #4
Has there been any Dem response other wise? GusBob Mar 2015 #5
There were many Dem responses the next day including the President, Veep, Minority Leader, Feinstein Cha Mar 2015 #20
So she is saying that Cruz, Rubio and Paul are not fit to run SteveG Mar 2015 #7
i'm impressed - she is laying a good foundation to attack gop treachery and has just cast doubt samsingh Mar 2015 #8
I thought it was good, too. I'm not supporting Hillary at this point in time.. just to qualify that Cha Mar 2015 #21
she offers a good chance to win the Prsidency, she cares samsingh Mar 2015 #38
so he fired back -snip- what is -snip- supposed to mean, exactly? nt msongs Mar 2015 #9
Follow the link to the full article... DonViejo Mar 2015 #33
No dem 2016 Hopeful Should pocoloco Mar 2015 #11
BS Damn U Want A Republican President? Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #55
"Please proceed..." nt DRoseDARs Mar 2015 #12
Glad to see her fight back. It's time. Put on those boxing gloves Hillary & show us what you've got jillan Mar 2015 #16
I was starting to feel all "deja vu 2007-08/frontrunner blows it" again also . . . brush Mar 2015 #35
"Helps protect USA from a bad deal" ? Kablooie Mar 2015 #19
You are so spot on with this . . . brush Mar 2015 #36
That was a line drive double. nt BootinUp Mar 2015 #23
I saw this as a tweet last yesterday and am glad to see it as a news article riversedge Mar 2015 #25
Good for you, Hillary! leftofcool Mar 2015 #26
"The tweet is a rare direct attack on Clinton’s putative Republican rivals for the White House, four riversedge Mar 2015 #31
The idiot senators who signed the letter are disqualified Gothmog Mar 2015 #32
But is a war on Iraq letter okay? nt valerief Mar 2015 #37
Hillary is being presidential and using this time in the spotlight to remind people samsingh Mar 2015 #41
There is such a thing as being too careful Wash. state Desk Jet Mar 2015 #42
I am definitely not a Hillary hater murielm99 Mar 2015 #43
Good point. I had not riversedge Mar 2015 #48
She pretty much guarenteed that they will all sign it. LynneSin Mar 2015 #44
Perfectly said… Thank you Ms. Clinton. midnight Mar 2015 #49
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2015 #50
Seems to be about right on. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #52
But their Koch gods told them to. C Moon Mar 2015 #54

still_one

(92,250 posts)
2. For Hillary it is damn if you do or damn if you don't as far as some on DU are concerned
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

Not much different then what has happened to President Obama with the certain elements in Congress

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
6. try to think of it in terms of both comments, hers and his.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:41 PM
Mar 2015

with all that is wrong, not just with the 47, but with the public awareness of events, things not covered by the media, very real problems that need fixing, etc, and their comments amount to playing pitching pennies with talking points.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
10. Yes, DU has become quite cliquish over the years. Very juvenile.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:54 PM
Mar 2015

The self-appointed Kool Kids have apparently decided that Clinton is worse than Hitler and anyone who doesn't hop on board their bus is deemed worthy of derision. Personally, I'm content to wait until, you know, there's an actual choice to be made in the primary.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
13. you're right on top of things. what is the name of that law?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:06 AM
Mar 2015

you know, the one which predicts the use of hitler in a thread?

Response to still_one (Reply #2)

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
30. The data are compelling
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:06 AM
Mar 2015

She does the right thing either never or too slowly, and she does the wrong thing with a cool calculation that has everything to do with promoting the interests of the 99 percent.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
15. we always help our friends, don't we?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:27 AM
Mar 2015

skip to 3:26

from A Clockwork Orange when Alex is offered a job.



run EW

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
17. Are you talking about Clinton? If so, I think your response is a bit extreme.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:29 AM
Mar 2015

While I do not want to accuse an individual of being a Hillary Hater, I have to say that the action of calling what she did "Unf'ing believable" seems to be a tad harsh.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
18. reread post 6
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:37 AM
Mar 2015

calling what she did "Unf'ing believable" seems to be half of my message.

read the link from the op.

read the rest of post 6.

do you still feel that i am being a bit extreme?
at what scale do you rate my hatred?
does my seeming to be a tad harsh also apply to my giving his retort the same comment?

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
24. what is wrong with her statement, cotton's response, and nbc reporting on it
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:57 AM
Mar 2015

Nothing is wrong on the level of each individual party to this. What is wrong is that WE have accepted a she said/he said toothless piece of no information and are satisfied with it.

Her statement was, "No one considering running for commander-in-chief should be signing on."

Cotton's reply was, "No, .@HillaryClinton, letter to Iran helps protect USA from bad deal. No CINC should allow world’s worst regimes to get world’s worst weapon".

NBC puts it out and we are satisfied. Yeah, she showed him. That will pull the undecided voters in. Of course the other half of the undecided see it the other way, he showed her. Good job NBC. Good job Hillary. Good job Tom. Good job America. Let's not schedule any primaries, debates, or even rallies. It's all over. She zinged him good. So, if there are no more problems in America, we'll see what clever one liners will keep this country on the garden path tomorrow.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. what she said is true. no one who purports to be president should be openly disparaging the
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:46 AM
Mar 2015

credibility of the office of the President to foreign powers.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
29. And Lizzie Warren has said what about this?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:49 AM
Mar 2015

Nothing, absolutely nothing! At least Hillary came out against this.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
47. so in the eyes of Clinton's loyal subjects she is perfect.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:09 PM
Mar 2015

in truth, she is the last Dem that i would vote for in the general. it would still be a (D) vote, but i would be questioning my own values voting for Hilla(R)y.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
45. Cool way to rationalize it. I'd hide behind implication too had I said it.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:58 PM
Mar 2015

Cool way to rationalize it. I'd hide behind implication too had I said it.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
46. it is what it is. that doesn't make HRC a better candidate.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:07 PM
Mar 2015

should she the the Dem nominee i will hold my nose and vote for Hilla(R)y.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
53. What do you want her to say some overheated nonsense about hanging for treason?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:51 AM
Mar 2015

She made a perfectly acceptable statement.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. Has there been any Dem response other wise?
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:41 PM
Mar 2015

I haven't seen any. Yesterday there was a post a DUer had contacted I believe Durbins office and there would be a unified D response

Cha

(297,323 posts)
20. There were many Dem responses the next day including the President, Veep, Minority Leader, Feinstein
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:00 AM
Mar 2015

Tim Kaine, Durbin.. don't know if the ol "unified response" has come out yet.

I've been offline all day.

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
7. So she is saying that Cruz, Rubio and Paul are not fit to run
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:41 PM
Mar 2015

Well you and I already knew that. In fact there is no Republican fit to run, they are all traitors.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
8. i'm impressed - she is laying a good foundation to attack gop treachery and has just cast doubt
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:46 PM
Mar 2015

on all the current gop assholes likely to run.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
21. I thought it was good, too. I'm not supporting Hillary at this point in time.. just to qualify that
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:04 AM
Mar 2015

but, to set it up like that is perfect in my book. All the clowns in the car looked so stupid tripping over themselves and jumping onto Cotton's Letter to the Ayatollahs.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
38. she offers a good chance to win the Prsidency, she cares
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:26 AM
Mar 2015

about healthcare and will strengthen Obamacare. She replace retiring SCOTUS members with decent judges.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
33. Follow the link to the full article...
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:34 AM
Mar 2015

the OP only contains the first few paragraphs of an article...copyright laws.

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
11. No dem 2016 Hopeful Should
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:56 PM
Mar 2015

have voted for the Iraq war!!!

There are many dems with blood on their hands,
no balls, backbone, or principles and do not qualify
to lead this country!!!

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
55. BS Damn U Want A Republican President?
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:07 PM
Mar 2015

People make mistakes especially when lied to by our own Government by proclaiming falsely that Iraq had WMD and another terrorist attack was imminent if the US failed to act.

As a Senator representing New York who had just faced the worst terrorist attack on American soil, Hillary's Constituents demanded she do whatever possible to prevent another terrorist attack.

We were all lied to and the nonstop barrage of lies about radio chatter indicating by the Bush Administration had our country in a state of constant fear...

jillan

(39,451 posts)
16. Glad to see her fight back. It's time. Put on those boxing gloves Hillary & show us what you've got
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:54 AM
Mar 2015

because lately, I'm feeling a little uneasy about your candidacy.... and it's not just from the emails.

brush

(53,794 posts)
35. I was starting to feel all "deja vu 2007-08/frontrunner blows it" again also . . .
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:39 AM
Mar 2015

about Hllary's campaign, especially with the unforced email error — any Clinton has to know the repugs scrutinize every move with a microscope and blare every misstep to the world with a megaphone — then came the timing of the presser to explain the personal email server to re-enforce my trepidation.

I couldn't understand why she would want to hijack the news cycle away from the hammering the repugs were getting from the open letter fiasco, then I realized she was trying to slip in a response that would hopefully be under reported because the media was preoccupied with the open letter — sort of like how late Friday afternoon news dumps go unnoticed.

It was a miscalculation though as it turns out the media can walk and chew gum at the same time as both Cotton, he of the open letter, and Hillary are both now getting blasted.

Something is amiss, maybe it's her advisers who recommended the ill-timed presser, or maybe she just doesn't have Bill's political instincts. I know he would have let the repugs twist in the media winds alone for a few more days.

She did recover somewhat with the tweet about repug 2016 hopefuls. So there's hope.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
19. "Helps protect USA from a bad deal" ?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:53 AM
Mar 2015

There IS no deal yet. How the hell do they know what the deal will be?

And the alternative is to make no deal and allow the Iranians to continue on with whatever they want to do with no oversight from anyone else.
To kill any hope for a deal is to make it easier for Iran to build nuclear weapons.

Of course Tehran Tom has the strange idea that Iran already has weapons because he was telling them to dismantle them.
He's an idiot in every direction you look and he's got the rest of the Republicans blindly following his blindness.

I wish this would have consequences for them but I know from history that in a month or two this will be forgotten, Tehran Tom will be a hero, and voters will think once again that all these Republicans represent the pinnacle of honorable statesmanship.

brush

(53,794 posts)
36. You are so spot on with this . . .
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:45 AM
Mar 2015

. . . "he's got the rest of the Republicans blindly following his blindness."

I mean this still wet-behind-the-ears guy has only been a senator for two months and long-time, multi-term Senate veterans like McConnell and McCain, who should know better, signed on to this?

Un-effing-believable!

That march-in-lock-step think the repugs do hurt them this time.

riversedge

(70,246 posts)
25. I saw this as a tweet last yesterday and am glad to see it as a news article
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:15 AM
Mar 2015

I am very glad she tweeted this out.

riversedge

(70,246 posts)
31. "The tweet is a rare direct attack on Clinton’s putative Republican rivals for the White House, four
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:14 AM
Mar 2015

Politico added some......


Hillary Clinton rips GOP rivals on Iran letter


By Kendall Breitman

3/11/15 3:24 PM EDT

Updated 3/11/15 4:22 PM EDT

Hillary Clinton took to Twitter on Wednesday to blast congressional Republicans for their recent open letter to top Iranian leaders.

“GOP letter to Iranian clerics undermines American leadership,” Clinton wrote. “No one considering running for commander-in-chief should be signing on.”

Clinton’s tweet comes after Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and 46 other Republican senators signed a letter to Iranian officials warning them that any nuclear agreement with President Barack Obama could easily be reversed without congressional approval.

The tweet is a rare direct attack on Clinton’s putative Republican rivals for the White House, four of whom — Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) — have explicitly signed on to the letter, and four of whom — Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush — have merely endorsed its sentiments in more general terms.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/hillary-clinton-iran-letter-gop-115991.html#ixzz3UB0xVSDm

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
41. Hillary is being presidential and using this time in the spotlight to remind people
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:54 PM
Mar 2015

of the repug treachery and cowardice.

this is the way she will become President. I'm very proud of her.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
42. There is such a thing as being too careful
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 03:03 PM
Mar 2015

And that is where the swing voters are watching closely. The GOP ball is rolling now and it looks as though it has already run afoul.
Clearly the republicans cannot come up with a way to pr this fast enough. It wasn't a good idea ,at the time it seemed-it was a dumb idea ,a blizzard was coming had to run out of town, no time to think about it carefully, maybe it was a mistake . They are all out in front of it and at the same time they all cannot remain behind it. And isn't that the root of division.

Some will try to run with it and the others will run away from it.
47 ski due hail mary pass. McCain isn't so sure about it now that it has gone down. ICEOLATION.
As the weather begins to warm up in the cold areas the republicans prepare for the deep freeze.

Some will become frozen solid.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
43. I am definitely not a Hillary hater
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:20 PM
Mar 2015

and I don't like being lumped in with them. I will support her, and I have supported her in the past. This hate is nonsensical. Just as bad is not being unable to criticize anything Obama does without being attacked. We need discussion, not division, at DU.

That said, I do not like it when anyone says someone is running for commander-in-chief. They are running for President. Yes, commander-in-chief is part of the job. But our country is not run by a military junta. We have a chief executive who has many jobs.

Whenever my husband would criticize the Iraq war, repubbies at his work would say, "You can't criticize our commander-in-chief when we are at war."

My husband would reply that he was not in the military any more, so Bush was not his commander-in-chief. Then, he would ask them if they had served. None of them had.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
44. She pretty much guarenteed that they will all sign it.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:30 PM
Mar 2015

Which will be good for ANY eventual Democrat who wins the presidential nominee because I think anyone who signed that letter should be held accountable for their actions.

I mean how would a President Rubio react if Democrats wrote a letter like that to leader of another nation? I highly doubt he would sit back and let it slide.

In the end this letter will hurt all of them. But right now Hillary stating that none of them should sign it pretty much is like Obama saying that kids should be Vaccinated - you know the GOP will come out totally against it.

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