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brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:30 AM Mar 2015

Venezuela congress approves president's decree request

Source: Al Jazeera

Venezuela's Congress has approved the president's request for expanded powers, effectively paving the way for him to rule by decree.

Nicolas Maduro's request to enact laws for up to six months without consulting Congress is expected to gain final approval on Sunday and is intended, he says, to protect the country from US "imperialism".

He made the move after Washington imposed sanctions on Monday on several top Venezuelan officials accused of human rights violations.

Maduro said the legislation would allow him to issue decrees for the "protection against meddling by other states in the internal affairs of the republic, militaristic actions or any external or internal activity that aims to break the peace".

Read more: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2015/03/venezuela-congress-approves-president-decree-request-150312071259152.html





Certainly seems to be getting the "Banana Republic" look down...
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Venezuela congress approves president's decree request (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2015 OP
I think they should just name him a god-king, goodness knows he's never made any mistakes geek tragedy Mar 2015 #1
Dictators always proceed in the same manner. Ikonoklast Mar 2015 #14
Look for them to cancel legislative elections this year n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2015 #2
Got to get those opposition leaders in jail before the elections. nt hack89 Mar 2015 #3
Won't make the slightest difference to defenders of the leftist government. cheapdate Mar 2015 #4
No, it won't. Hell, they'll be cheering for this COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #6
Beginning of the end of any democracy in VZ. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #5
Why do we care? Android3.14 Mar 2015 #7
Wow where are are the apologists? jzodda Mar 2015 #8
There are a few still around. Most dropped off once Hugo was 6 feet under. Bacchus4.0 Mar 2015 #9
What are you talking about? The Revolution has worked very well. Ikonoklast Mar 2015 #18
You know what pisses me off about Venezuela? FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #10
^^^THIS^^^ COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #11
Fantastic point jzodda Mar 2015 #12
Yep Yallow Mar 2015 #13
That's why I don't trust socialism. christx30 Mar 2015 #15
There are good examples of socialist type governments though FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #17
I agree totally with you about christx30 Mar 2015 #19
Maybe his first decree will be for them to use only one square of toilet paper. Archae Mar 2015 #16
Don't worry, I'm sure this is the US's fault somehow. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #20
The region's leading war-maker just called Venezuela "an extraordinary threat to national security." Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #21
Can't wait to see what he fucks up next. nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2015 #22
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. I think they should just name him a god-king, goodness knows he's never made any mistakes
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:37 AM
Mar 2015

or ever abused his power.

That' what we're told by his fans at DU.

He is in fact the wisest, noblest, and greatest leader in the world.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
14. Dictators always proceed in the same manner.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:58 AM
Mar 2015

Internal 'enemies' to blame then punish, use any vague external threats to keep the population in fear while their rights are stolen from them because of the "Emergency Situation".

Enabling Act, all over again.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
4. Won't make the slightest difference to defenders of the leftist government.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:26 AM
Mar 2015

I've all but given up trying to have a critical discussion with them about the desperate need for Venezuela's leftist government to demonstrate basic competence and to put forward sound public policy.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. Why do we care?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:08 AM
Mar 2015

I don't follow the Venezuela thing much, but why do we even care? Do they represent some sort of threat?

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
8. Wow where are are the apologists?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:24 AM
Mar 2015

Very silent so far with regards to this news. I can't wait to read how they spin this one.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
9. There are a few still around. Most dropped off once Hugo was 6 feet under.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

They are generally bitterly disappointed that the revolution hasn't worked out so well.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
18. What are you talking about? The Revolution has worked very well.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:24 AM
Mar 2015

For the Chavez family and their cronies, that is.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
10. You know what pisses me off about Venezuela?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:30 AM
Mar 2015

It's the example conservatives use to scare people on how socialism works.

Venezuela is shit but it's not because they have social protection programs, it's because it's run by idiots and corruption.


 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
13. Yep
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:53 AM
Mar 2015

Venezuela is ran by morons. Corrupt, plundering ignorant fools, that want to blame their corruption on America.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
15. That's why I don't trust socialism.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:01 AM
Mar 2015

Top-down, heavy handed government with very few limits on its power. There have to be checks on power, otherwise, idiots and incompetents like Maduro get anything they want. And when things go wrong, there is nothing to stop (or even slow down) the unmitigated disaster that's unfolding there.
Things aren't perfect here. There are things I'd love to see changed in the US. But I know that at 3 in the morning, I can get in my car and drive 1 mile to the grocery store and get a 24 pack of toilet paper.
And these idiots think their problems are caused by them not having enough power. That's not the problem. The problem is that you don't know how to run a country. You think you can force people to cooperate with you at the point of a gun. You don't listen to your critics. You arrest opposition politicians. Your country doesn't build anything. You don't create anything. No one wants to do business wit you because you lie and steal. Anyone that has the ability to leave has done so, taking their knowledge, and their money with them.
"But at last he'll have the power to do what needs to be done."
That sentiment sounds hollow every time it's been uttered throughout history.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
17. There are good examples of socialist type governments though
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:19 AM
Mar 2015

Denmark, Finland, Sweden, maybe even throw in New Zealand as good examples of democracy, capitalism, & socialist programs co-existing successfully.

I agree with you about a full Communist type government with few limits on it's power (and the downward spiral that causes), which is as bad as a full Capitalist society with no social safeguards. The trick is getting the balancing act right, and there are some places that have managed to do it.





christx30

(6,241 posts)
19. I agree totally with you about
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:33 AM
Mar 2015

this. And Maduro's government is not a good example of socialism. If they did things like Finland, I'd love it. The people there are very happy, from what I've seen. The banks don't have near as much power as they do here. There are checks and balances on both sides of the equasion. And that's the difference. The Finnish government works with the businesses to create a good society. Maduro thinks he can force it at the point of a gun.
I don't know of any problems that are happening there because Maduro doesn't have enough power.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
16. Maybe his first decree will be for them to use only one square of toilet paper.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:03 AM
Mar 2015

And a couple rocks and a river for laundry.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
20. Don't worry, I'm sure this is the US's fault somehow.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:55 AM
Mar 2015

After all, there was absolutely totally a coup in the works, guys. Maduro wouldn't just make shit like that up to get decree powers.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
21. The region's leading war-maker just called Venezuela "an extraordinary threat to national security."
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:07 PM
Mar 2015

That would be the US.

But of course the US would never, ever, ever try to overthrow the Venezuelan government. Oh, wait.

And the US would never, ever, ever spend millions trying to subvert Venezuelan democracy. Oh, wait.

It's just that Maduro is a buffoon and a madman. Seems a fairly familiar tactic against leaders we don't like.

I'm not a big fan of granting sweeping powers to the executive--AUMF and Patriot Act, anyone?--and I hope things settle down there soon.

But I bet DU's very own Red Squad is quite willing to cheer lead a descent into instability and chaos...as long as it rids them of the evil socialists.

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