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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:09 AM Mar 2015

Police fatally shoot man found on subway tunnel tracks in DC

Source: Washington Post

Transit police in Washington, D.C. fatally shot a man after responding to a call about an “unauthorized person” on the tracks in a subway tunnel.

Metro Transit Police spokesman Mike Tolbert said the shooting happened at the Potomac Avenue station Thursday night. Tolbert said he had no details about the man, what he was doing in the tunnel, or what prompted police to shoot him. He said no officers were injured.

Tolbert said the Transit Police received the call a little before 9 p.m. He said Washington, D.C., police are leading the investigation into the shooting.

The Potomac Avenue station was closed following the shooting. Tolbert said the orange, silver and blue lines that normally stop there were bypassing the station in both directions.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/police-fatally-shoot-man-found-on-subway-tunnel-tracks-in-dc/2015/03/12/8eb483ca-c932-11e4-bea5-b893e7ac3fb3_story.html



I used to live right there. Not a great neighborhood.
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Police fatally shoot man found on subway tunnel tracks in DC (Original Post) Recursion Mar 2015 OP
Homicide Legal billhicks76 Mar 2015 #1
+1000 nt Javaman Mar 2015 #14
Maybe this is one to wait for a detail or two. CincyDem Mar 2015 #2
I agree, well said! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #3
You must be new here. ManiacJoe Mar 2015 #18
They probably had to shoot him so he wouldn't get hurt by the trains. Hoppy Mar 2015 #4
It was all about protecting him from harm. Helen Borg Mar 2015 #5
Yeah, but you just said it more clearly than me. Hoppy Mar 2015 #6
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #8
Not a good word used to in safeinOhio Mar 2015 #9
You may have missed the intended . . . Brigid Mar 2015 #10
Welcome to DU, but: mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2015 #11
Thank you for this post. brer cat Mar 2015 #12
You're welcome. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2015 #13
Keep it 100 SCVDem Mar 2015 #7
the police appear to now have licence to kill samsingh Mar 2015 #15
"Just following orders." blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #16
Pic URL: http://theneworder.org/media/83085/fuehrer-werkscharen-nuremberg-1934.jpg blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #17
He was pants-less, shoeless, and 'armed' with a tree branch muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #19
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
1. Homicide Legal
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:36 AM
Mar 2015

Now that police have seen that they will never be prosecuted for killing someone they will start doing it everywhere with impunity because they can. So many of them don't give a crap about people and if you allow them to kill without consequences they will. Anyone could get victimized.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
2. Maybe this is one to wait for a detail or two.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:51 AM
Mar 2015

I agree with Comment #1 that we have, in large part, trained our police that human life (especially that of certain color human life) has little street value.

That said, maybe this is one we just wait for a detail or two. If this turns out to be a local homeless guy sleeping one off in the tunnel, it's a problem. But, given that it appears to be at a station on the major lines through DC and only 2 stops away from the Mall (by my reading of the map), consider that there might be other possibilities.

This isn't conspiracy theorizing because we know absolutely NOTHING about what happened beyond the fact that someone is dead. Until we know more, I'm going imagine that this incident might be in the thin thin tail of appropriate use of force (god I never thought I'd say that).

My 2 cents.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
18. You must be new here.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 06:28 PM
Mar 2015

DU is not known for waiting for facts when jumping to conclusions is more fun.

Regarding the linked article, it is a shame what passes for journalism these days.

Response to Hoppy (Reply #4)

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
11. Welcome to DU, but:
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:07 AM
Mar 2015

I am an administrator at another forum, one that has nothing to do with politics. Every now and then, someone will use the word "retard" or "retarded" in a post. I like to discourage the use of those words in reference to developmental disability. Even though I see it a lot at {that other forum}, such usage is increasingly frowned upon. This link might help explain things:

Special Olympics and the R-Word

The R-word’s Increasing Popularity

The r-word, “retard”, has become too commonplace in society. Retarded has even spawned new words: celebutard, a famous stupid person; debutard, a rich stupid person; e-tard, a stupid Internet user -- stupid being the common denominator and "tard" a suffix and a word in itself. ("Tard: Adjective used to describe one so retarded, they do not deserve the 're' " -- Urban Dictionary.)

The r-word has gone mainstream, beyond the core population of its origins and primary meaning. Young and old people alike use the word. In the majority of its usage the word conveys a negative message. Although many people may not understand the hurtful impact, the truth is, it hurts, even when people do not mean it that way. No matter the usage, the discriminatory impact on those people who are the target use of the word is significant.

Special Olympics is working to eliminate the pejorative use of the word retard (or comparable word in different cultures) from use in everyday language, and more importantly create a world of dignity, acceptance and inclusion for people with disability. Special Olympics is reaching out to educate and build awareness of the destructive power of the word through schools, parents, and young people.
....

Now is the Time to Act

Yet the r-word remains. It is time to eliminate the use of this word. It is time for ALL people to speak up and let others know that they will not tolerate the use of the word. It is time to recognize the worth and value of people with intellectual disabilities and welcome them into a society that can only benefit from their inclusion and acceptance.

At that point, I say to the poster at the other forum, "If you can think of some other word or phrase that will do, I'd appreciate it if you would edit your post."

Thanks for understanding. Best wishes.

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
12. Thank you for this post.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:18 AM
Mar 2015

I would also like to add "deaf and dumb" to the list. We don't see it as often, but it is still being used by some.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
13. You're welcome.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:25 AM
Mar 2015

It's mostly kids who post at that other forum. They hear the words in school, and they come to take the usage as not a problem. As an administrator, I try to bring them around and to help them see why they should find another word.

Best wishes.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
7. Keep it 100
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 08:49 AM
Mar 2015

What's the first thing you asked yourself when you read the headline?

Was he black?

No weak tea for me!

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
15. the police appear to now have licence to kill
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:14 AM
Mar 2015

calling them for help may be as dangerous as the situation itself

they seem to misunderstand a lot of situations - especially in minority neighborhoods

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
19. He was pants-less, shoeless, and 'armed' with a tree branch
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 07:21 PM
Mar 2015
A Metro Transit police officer fatally shot a man inside a rail tunnel Thursday night after the man — pants-less and shoe-less — rushed at her holding a large tree branch, according to two officials familiar with the investigation.

Police said they do not know why the man, who was inches from the officer when she opened fire, was walking through the dimly lit tunnel between the ­Stadium-Armory and Potomac Avenue stations in Southeast Washington.

Authorities identified him as Bobby Gross, 35, who has lived in Virginia and the District, and who has arrests for crimes that include drug offenses, assault and larceny.

The operator of a Franconia-Springfield-bound Blue line train spotted him and called Metro’s operations center about 8:53 p.m. By 9:10 p.m., police said, Gross had confronted the veteran officer, who was alone. Police said she shot several times, striking him at least once. He collapsed on the westbound tracks 400 feet east of the Potomac Avenue platform, where he was pronounced dead.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigation-continues-into-deadly-shooting-in-metro-tunnel-in-se-dc/2015/03/13/174b80f4-c973-11e4-aa1a-86135599fb0f_story.html
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