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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:28 AM Mar 2015

F-35 Fighter Continues Next-Gen Attack on Taxpayer Wallets

Source: Yahoo! News and ABC News

Already the most expensive defense weapons program in history, the price tag on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jumped up another $4.3 billion in the last year – the latest hike in a program that’s gone $113 billion over its original projected cost, according to a new report from the Government Accountability Office.

The stealth F-35, long touted as the future backbone of America’s dominance in the air, has experienced a seemingly unending string of cost increases and delays since development began in 2001. Three variations on the plane are meant to replace legacy fighters for the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marines and lead the way in next-generation electronic warfare. But the plane is so complex and was put into production so prematurely, according to the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer, that he once said that the error amounted to “acquisition malpractice.

The sophisticated jets were originally slated to join the battlefield in 2012, but the GAO report, published today, estimates the first variation – the Marines’ – won’t reach initial operational capability until this summer at best. The Navy’s won’t reach that point until 2018, if all goes well.

The same month as the IG report, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said the F-35 program was “one of the great national scandals that we have ever had, as far as the expenditure of taxpayers’ dollars are concerned.”



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/f-35-fighter-continues-next-gen-attack-taxpayer-005933671--abc-news-topstories.html



The American government can find ANY amount of new money for this farce of a weapon system.
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ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. If all goes well. . . . WITH THIS PROGRAM?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:34 AM
Mar 2015

Heh. Heh heh, ha ha ha, HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE

In what universe will that happen?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Scandal? This is nothing compared to the Clinton emails. So say the media, so you must believe.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:35 AM
Mar 2015

Now, take a look at these GOP Clowns again....are you not entertained, folks?

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
3. The Republicans and their "hard working taxpayer" base have no problem with this.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:43 AM
Mar 2015

But try to give a kid a decent breakfast and lunch at school and they start squealing like pigs!

hunter

(38,317 posts)
5. Especially kids who are not "white."
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

I truly believe racism is the heart of this problem. Some would rather see a dozen white kids go hungry then feed one hungry child they perceive as not white.

They also can't picture any circumstances where this aircraft would be used against "Good Christian White Folk" like themselves.

Of course the entire F-35 program is a scam. In return for diverting huge amounts of money to this rotten turkey, politicians get major donations to their campaigns and major gains in their supposedly "blind" stock portfolios. Our national banking system is run in a similar manner.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
6. "I don't see chicken fingers bombing a terrorist IED site."
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

My reply to that is "At the rate things are going, I don't see this plane doing it either."

erronis

(15,303 posts)
4. And they want to base a bunch of these in the little Burlington VT airport
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:04 AM
Mar 2015

We already have a wing/squadron/whatever of F16s that have destroyed home values because of the noise pollution. These unsafe-at-any-speed, cost-overrun, MIC manna from heaven, F-35's have a huge increase in decibels and will probably obliterate large neighborhoods within 2-3 miles. The BTV airport is nestled nicely between the Green Mountains and Burlington and is surrounded by homes and businesses.

Why are they being slated for this otherwise idyllic spot? Because our wonderful congressional representatives (Sanders, Leahy, Welch) want them. Probably more likely that they are afraid to speak out against them.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. Last time I checked ou can get seven F-15s
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:47 AM
Mar 2015

for the price of a single F-35. And the F-15s actually work.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. F-15s are still pretty badass.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:31 PM
Mar 2015

Not stealthy, but badass. For that matter, I would not want to be on the receiving end of hostile fire from an F-16. How "cheap" are they?

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
14. There's always the F-15 silent eagle which is a stealthy version
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

It would have still been more expensive than older F-15s, but at least it is a proven airframe. Although I wouldn't count on the $100m estimated cost being something that could be relied upon. Those things have a tendency to change. The way they do things with contractors sees to encourage this ineffective waste.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F-15SE_Silent_Eagle

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
13. Or restart F-22 production.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:34 AM
Mar 2015

Realistically, given what the Russians, Indians and Chinese are developing, we do need a next gen fighter...but we already have one. Yeah, it's also had wicked overruns and is still suffering teething problems, but the decision to scrap that program to divert $$ to the JSF was beyond idiocy. For a fraction of the JSF costs, we could have had a capable naval variant of the Raptor, and gotten the kinks worked out, and produced tons.

I think the decision not to export it was the killer, god forbid the corporations not be allowed to peddle their wares globally..

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
10. Here is a pic.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:58 PM
Mar 2015


Lockheed-Martin got the contract to build them. And as everyone knows, what is good for Lockheed is good for the country.
 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
11. Isn't it obvious that they are just stealing our money?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

If I buy something at work and it doesn't work as per our initial agreements, then I won't pay the people who made it. If I paid them, the company I work for would immediately fire me, pursue legal action against the supplier, and pursue legal action against me personally.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
15. You don't work for the government, then
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 06:16 AM
Mar 2015

A long time ago in a land far away, I put out a contract for a new machine we needed. In the bid specs I put "this device must do (fill in very secret thing we needed to do) and it must also do (fill in other very secret thing)."

Ford Aerospace got the contract.

Nine months later we got the machine. "We added forty (very secret things) to it, to enhance your mission capabilities." And left out the two I needed. We spent a million five on a box that absolutely would not do what we paid for. Good thing a couple of us knew how to solder...

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