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Eugene

(61,900 posts) Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:09 AM Mar 2015

Arrest made in fatal shooting of Iraqi immigrant: Dallas police

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Dallas police said on Friday an arrest has been made in last week's fatal shooting of Iraqi immigrant who was gunned down while taking pictures of a snowfall.

Ahmed al-Jumaili, 30, had only been in the United States for about three weeks to be reunited with his wife when he was killed.

Police, who will hold a news conference later Friday, have said the killing appeared to be a random act of violence but did not rule out that it could be a hate crime.

Surveillance video released by police showed four men running away from a nearby apartment complex, with one man carrying a rifle.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/13/us-usa-texas-shooting-idUSKBN0M91JV20150313

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Arrest made in fatal shooting of Iraqi immigrant: Dallas police (Original Post) Eugene Mar 2015 OP

This happens to be yet another asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #1

So if the shooter turns out to be a Hispanic or Black man still hate crime? snooper2 Mar 2015 #2

Uhm, if race(or perceived race) is a factor in a crime, the race of the attacker is irrelevant... Humanist_Activist Mar 2015 #10

You have inside knowledge? Or 840high Mar 2015 #6

This doesn't appear to be true. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #14

More info at link Crabby Appleton Mar 2015 #3

Thanks. The Reuters reporting sucks. Heartbreaking interview with his widowed wife. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #5

Disgusting and dispiriting on so many levels I hate liars Mar 2015 #4

It appears he was caught in the crossfire of possible gang violence. hack89 Mar 2015 #7

Accodring to the article it was a black kid, looking for someone who had shot at his apartment. jtuck004 Mar 2015 #8

Sad !! virgogal Mar 2015 #9

Lives ruined all around. But if one needs a country to teach its citizens to simply wreak jtuck004 Mar 2015 #12

And because it doesn't fit the "accepted" narrative, this story will disappear in a day or two Lurks Often Mar 2015 #11

I think it's more surreal than anything else. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #15

I see at as a tendency of people to pick the people they WANT to have done it Lurks Often Mar 2015 #16

Okay, I see your point. n/t Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #17

Good work. Put him away forever. closeupready Mar 2015 #13

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)

1. This happens to be yet another

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:29 AM

Mar 2015

disgusting acts of violence -If Ahmed al-Jumaili was a white man - he would still be alive in Texass...

From article: the killing appeared to be a random act of violence but did not rule out that it could be a hate crime.

I have had enough of PC BS.....call it for what it is - are there any human beings in Texass??? backassward uneducated racists...

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

2. So if the shooter turns out to be a Hispanic or Black man still hate crime?

Reply to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:35 AM

Mar 2015

What if it was some idiot teenagers?

You have some details we don't know about?

Do you have an orange?

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)

10. Uhm, if race(or perceived race) is a factor in a crime, the race of the attacker is irrelevant...

Reply to snooper2 (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 02:08 PM

Mar 2015

Not saying this crime was a hate crime, just saying that your implication that only white people can commit hate crimes is false.

840high

(17,196 posts)

6. You have inside knowledge? Or

Reply to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:17 PM

Mar 2015

are you just anxious to jump in and place blame?

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)

14. This doesn't appear to be true.

Reply to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:55 PM

Mar 2015

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/dallas-police-make-arrest-in-slaying-of-iraqi-refugee.html/

Nykerion Nealon, who was arrested on a murder charge early Friday, was looking for the shooters who had shot at his girlfriend’s apartment and did not know the victim or the victim’s ethnicity, Dallas Police Major Jeff Cotner said at a news conference.

Nealon admitted to police he was the man seen on a video carrying an assault rifle right after the shooting, but denied being the shooter who killed Ahmed al-Jumaili. Nealon claimed when he tried to fire the rifle, he “did not know how to work it” so handed it to his companion, police said in an arrest warrant affidavit.

But police said several witnesses and evidence showed Nealon was the shooter. Nealon told three men he was with that night that he was searching for the people who had shot at his girlfriend’s apartment about a half-hour before, Cotner said.

He probably didn't recognize them as locals???

Nealon is black, so I doubt the Arab ethnicity of the victim had anything to do with it.

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)

3. More info at link

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:37 AM

Mar 2015

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/dallas-police-make-arrest-in-slaying-of-iraqi-refugee.html/

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

5. Thanks. The Reuters reporting sucks. Heartbreaking interview with his widowed wife.

Reply to Crabby Appleton (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:14 PM

Mar 2015

I hate liars

(165 posts)

4. Disgusting and dispiriting on so many levels

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:42 AM

Mar 2015

The same gun-worshipping, brainwashed, stalled-in-adolescence freepers who believe in American exceptionalism, America the land of opportunity, and America the god-fearing are responsible for increasing the level of intolerance, poverty, ignorance, paranoia, and hatred toward anyone who doesn't look, act, and think like them.

I hope there's a judge and jury in Texas that puts the perpetrator behind bars for life, and assigns stiff sentences to his accomplices. And if that happens (what are the chances), I hope every media outlet in Texas uses this as an opportunity to apologize for the cultural deviance that they have helped to cultivate.

I can dream, can't I?

hack89

(39,171 posts)

7. It appears he was caught in the crossfire of possible gang violence.

Reply to I hate liars (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:21 PM

Mar 2015

he was not the target.

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

8. Accodring to the article it was a black kid, looking for someone who had shot at his apartment.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:49 PM

Mar 2015

He walked through the complex with an assault rifle, and when he came upon this guy out taking pictures, decided he was good for it, started shooting at him, tracked him down and shot him. He had nothing to do with shooting at the kid's apartment.

virgogal

(10,178 posts)

9. Sad !!

Reply to jtuck004 (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 02:06 PM

Mar 2015

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

12. Lives ruined all around. But if one needs a country to teach its citizens to simply wreak

Reply to virgogal (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:08 PM

Mar 2015

havoc in response to some slight without regard to the consequences, you could do worse than this one.

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

11. And because it doesn't fit the "accepted" narrative, this story will disappear in a day or two

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 02:47 PM

Mar 2015

Since it was due to random, gang related violence very few in the media or here will continue to follow the story.

One just has to look at a couple of the posts in this thread to see why it doesn't fit the "accepted" narrative.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)

15. I think it's more surreal than anything else.

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:03 PM

Mar 2015

It does seem that they have the right person, but the accounts of what happened don't really make sense. The tendency is to look for a pattern to make sense of things.

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

16. I see at as a tendency of people to pick the people they WANT to have done it

Reply to Yo_Mama (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:49 PM

Mar 2015

because it reinforces what they believe.

And it's not just this specific case:
The Boston Marathon there were a number of people here who were certain, without any facts, that it was RW extremists

The shooting of the two police officers: again, right wing extremists

The murder of this poor Iraqi man, yet again, right wing extremists

All without any facts. Far too much confirmation bias in some of these posts instead of facts.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/c/confirmation_bias.htm

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)

17. Okay, I see your point. n/t

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:53 PM

Mar 2015

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

13. Good work. Put him away forever.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:26 PM

Mar 2015

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