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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:08 PM Mar 2015

Nearly 30 noncitizens voted in Ohio

Source: Gannet News Service

COLUMBUS – Two Sandusky County residents who weren't U.S. citizens were registered to vote, although never actually cast a ballot, according to data released Thursday by Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted.

Altogether, a recent review of Ohio's voter rolls found 145 noncitizens registered to vote. Of those, 27 cast ballots in an election, although none of them cast the deciding vote in any race.

Registering to vote or casting a ballot before becoming a citizen can result in a fifth-degree felony charge. As recently as Wednesday, a Canadian woman living in Ohio had her citizenship application denied because she registered to vote, Husted said.

Husted's system can identify noncitizens who have registered with their driver's license number by matching it with Bureau of Motor Vehicles' information that indicates whether a person is a citizen.

Read more: http://www.thenews-messenger.com/story/news/local/2015/03/13/nearly-noncitizens-voted-ohio/70260644/



Quite a spin in that headline. The real news:

Ohio’s Huge Voter Fraud Investigation Turns Up Nearly Nothing

Forty-four non-citizens may have voted illegally in Ohio at some point since 2000. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted has been on a mission to weed out purported voter fraud in the state since he took office in 2011. After launching an investigation into what he called an “expanding loophole” allowing non-citizens to vote in Ohio and potentially decide elections, he announced Thursday that 145 non-citizens were registered to vote illegally in 2014, amounting to just .0002 percent of the 7.7 million registered voters in the state.

Husted’s office would not provide any information about the 27 people it referred to the Attorney General’s office for further review. But in 2013, his office sent 17 potential cases — .0003 percent of total ballots cast in the state — to the AG who eventually referred them to county prosecutors. Most reports of voting irregularities were dropped by the county prosecutors because the “voter fraud” problems were determined to have been caused by simple mistakes and confused senior citizens, according to a Cleveland Plain Dealer investigation.

Voter fraud in Ohio is a fifth-degree felony and could carry up to a year in prison. But of the cases referred to prosecutors’ offices in 2013, most irregularities were caused by voter confusion or mistakes made by elections officials and not deliberate attempts to commit fraud, the investigation found. For example, Cuyahoga County looked into 15 cases referred from Husted’s office and chose not to pursue criminal charges against any of the individuals, concluding that the voters were confused about the “Golden Week” during which people can both register to vote and also cast their absentee ballot.

In total, only four people were convicted of voting fraud as a result of the 2013 investigation, Eve Mueller, the deputy director of communications for the Office of Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine, told ThinkProgress. Mueller said the office could not comment on the ongoing investigations into the newly announced cases.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/13/3633472/husted-noncitizen-voters/

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Nearly 30 noncitizens voted in Ohio (Original Post) uhnope Mar 2015 OP
145 non-citizens were registered to vote illegally in 2014, amounting to just .0002 percent underpants Mar 2015 #1
And this is what the Republicans call "voter fraud." CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #2
Correction they call it "Massive voter fraud." imthevicar Mar 2015 #28
And how many legal voters were thrown off the voter rolls by the software that Husted and .. Botany Mar 2015 #3
That was my first reaction. blm Mar 2015 #6
i am in Ohio and Husted is liar and cheat Botany Mar 2015 #10
Liars for Jesus blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #14
He's the fraud. blm Mar 2015 #24
kick Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #31
Oh the horror! Compare that to the hundreds of thousands (or millions) of US citizens.... George II Mar 2015 #4
So, should I write Mr. Husted a thank you note? Bradical79 Mar 2015 #5
When Pukes and Baggers bring up this non-issue again... SoapBox Mar 2015 #7
They will just say voter fraud is proven n2doc Mar 2015 #8
How many noncitizens affected the election through huge donations of money? Sanity Claws Mar 2015 #9
Strain a gnat, but swallow an elephant. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #15
omg. Democracy is over. 30. It's like a horde of...nothing. jtuck004 Mar 2015 #11
"Nearly 30, which is actually 27, closer to 25 but hey, might as well pretend it is a higher number uppityperson Mar 2015 #12
and 15 of those 25 safeinOhio Mar 2015 #18
seriously? uppityperson Mar 2015 #23
In total, four were prosecuted. cynzke Mar 2015 #30
If there is one issue in America more important than racism, this is it. Oh wait, this is racism. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #26
Here comes the pitter patter of widdow asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #13
...and nearly 50 US Senators equally broke laws this past week. Earth_First Mar 2015 #16
If Hustad is able to identify noncitizens based on the BMV. LiberalFighter Mar 2015 #17
Exactly, or why didn't he do that BEFORE he allowed them to register? elleng Mar 2015 #22
Ha! No comparison to the $$$ Duval Mar 2015 #19
How many 1,000's lobodons Mar 2015 #20
So what's wrong with the Secretary of State Husted, registering non-citizens? elleng Mar 2015 #21
That's the real issue. MGKrebs Mar 2015 #27
Can traitors like Portman vote? Marthe48 Mar 2015 #25
Wow, put them all in one small town and they could have thrown the vote for dogcatcher Thor_MN Mar 2015 #29

underpants

(182,829 posts)
1. 145 non-citizens were registered to vote illegally in 2014, amounting to just .0002 percent
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:19 PM
Mar 2015

145 non-citizens were registered to vote illegally in 2014, amounting to just .0002 percent of the 7.7 million registered voters in the state.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
3. And how many legal voters were thrown off the voter rolls by the software that Husted and ..
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:25 PM
Mar 2015

.... other GOP Sec. of State that looked for people voting twice across state lines?

Husted and others are doing the same thing that the people who marched in Selma
50 years ago were protesting and that is the denail of the right to vote and have that
vote counted.

blm

(113,065 posts)
6. That was my first reaction.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:32 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:25 PM - Edit history (1)

GOP: Better to prevent the vote of hundreds of thousands legal voters than to let a few illegal ones go through (that you could have always prosecuted long BEFORE the restrictive measures would forced through).

Botany

(70,516 posts)
10. i am in Ohio and Husted is liar and cheat
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:50 PM
Mar 2015


ACORN never committed any voter fraud but that fact didn't stop
Husted from making this phony ass ad. BTW he was living in Columbus,
OH for years but still claiming that he was really living in Springfield, OH
which was the district he was State Senator for but that didn't stop him
saying he was living someplace he clearly wasn't.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Oh the horror! Compare that to the hundreds of thousands (or millions) of US citizens....
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:27 PM
Mar 2015

....who are improperly DENIED the vote!

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
5. So, should I write Mr. Husted a thank you note?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

His investigation has shown beyond a shadow of doubt that fears of illegal voting in Ohio are unfounded. It's nice to have a definitive answer backed up by hard data

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. When Pukes and Baggers bring up this non-issue again...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:33 PM
Mar 2015

This article needs to haunt them at every turn.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. They will just say voter fraud is proven
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:35 PM
Mar 2015

even one case is enough for them. They could not care less about people denied the vote, though.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
9. How many noncitizens affected the election through huge donations of money?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:46 PM
Mar 2015

A lot more than 30 and their impact was a lot more than 30 votes.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. omg. Democracy is over. 30. It's like a horde of...nothing.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 04:00 PM
Mar 2015

Seems we are re-hashing the story of the little boy who cried wolf.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. "Nearly 30, which is actually 27, closer to 25 but hey, might as well pretend it is a higher number
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 04:11 PM
Mar 2015

and even if it were 29, or even 30? non-issue except to show how few did.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
30. In total, four were prosecuted.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 06:52 AM
Mar 2015

Given the proportion, how many of the four were Republicans? Pardon my skepticism, were all four Democrats?

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
26. If there is one issue in America more important than racism, this is it. Oh wait, this is racism.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:07 PM
Mar 2015

Shit, I guess racism is everywhere.



I also love how those rat bastard puke fucks in Texas have made it near impossible for college students to vote...who else is doing that, I forget now.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
13. Here comes the pitter patter of widdow
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 04:15 PM
Mar 2015

voter fraud feet.....wait for it!

Register to vote if you haven't already - and VOTE!

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
16. ...and nearly 50 US Senators equally broke laws this past week.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 04:19 PM
Mar 2015

Which story grows longer legs first...?

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
17. If Hustad is able to identify noncitizens based on the BMV.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 04:40 PM
Mar 2015

Then why didn't he send a letter telling them they were not eligible to vote and their registration is void? Before the election?

elleng

(130,974 posts)
22. Exactly, or why didn't he do that BEFORE he allowed them to register?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:34 PM
Mar 2015

Sounds like (more) incompetence there.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
19. Ha! No comparison to the $$$
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:14 PM
Mar 2015

the Koch brothers poured into elections plus the efforts made to restrict voters. Any "fraud" that was perpetuated that had real effects was by the Republicans. And three cheers to Chris Matthews. Thanks, uhnope for the post.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
27. That's the real issue.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 08:08 PM
Mar 2015

But of course Repubs pick on the weakest opponent they can find, as usual.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
29. Wow, put them all in one small town and they could have thrown the vote for dogcatcher
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:56 PM
Mar 2015

That is, if they didn't counteract each other.

So Ohio, how much did that exercise in bullshit cost you?

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