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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:10 PM Mar 2015

Ukraine Govt Sees No Links Between 6 Former Regime Suicides

Source: ABC News

Ukraine's interior minister says he sees no links between a series of recent alleged suicides of officials who served during the regime of deposed President Viktor Yanukovych.

Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said Friday that any suggestion that the deaths were connected was "speculation."

In the most prominent case, a leading official with Yanukovych's now-defunct former ruling Party of Region, Mikhail Chechetov, in late February fell to his death from his 17-story apartment in Kiev. Police said they found a suicide note. Chechetov was facing criminal investigation for abuse of office.

Five other former Ukrainian government officials in the past two months have died in various circumstances that police have said were most likely suicides.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ukraine-govt-sees-links-regime-suicides-29618266

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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. The crumbling Kiev regime, militarily and economically collapsing, will be propped up by the West as
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:27 PM
Mar 2015

another puppet nation, under the boot of the IMF.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
4. And the Yanukovych kelptocracy it replaced was somehow pereferable?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:42 PM
Mar 2015

They stole as much money from Ukraine as the Somoza family did from Nicaragua, and it took the Somozas 40 years.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. The crumbling Kiev regime will be a willing puppet of the West....under the boot of the IMF.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:47 PM
Mar 2015

Bread and jobs are what all folks want, not ideological, personalized grudges waged.

And now comes IMF imposed austerity and a give away of resources, land and sovereignty to Western corporations.....another Greece in the making.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
6. You neatly sidestepped a direct question.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:52 PM
Mar 2015

My relatives in Ukraine absolutely support the new regime and an alignment with the West, as does virtually everyone who doesn't live in rebel-controlled areas.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
11. That's tiring. The new government is full of career Ukraine politicians
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:44 PM
Mar 2015

Those in the "approved" parties were not removed, only those in the opposition parties. If you think that the corruptions was confined to Yanukovich or the "Blue" parties you know nothing about the country and it's problems.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
12. Did I say anything to the contrary?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:08 PM
Mar 2015

No, I didn't, and I know just as much or more about Ukraine as do you.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
16. Let me answer that one...
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:48 AM
Mar 2015

I live here and I can tell you that yes, Yanukovich most definitely was preferable.

Under Yanukovich...

• There was no war...
• Inflation was basically negligible
• The money retained it's value
• The economy was growing


Under the junta (and yes, there are a lot of people here that use that term)

• There is a war (blame Russia if you want, but anyone who paid attention to the Nazis were not surprised when they expressed their genocidal beliefs, and have already expressed their intent to overthrow Poroshenko if he does not pursue the war further).
• Inflation is expected to run over 250% this year, by some estimates
• The currency has lost 65% of its value during the previous 12 months
• Ukraine now has a lower standard of living than most of Africa, and by far the worst in Europe.
• Two of the largest employers in the country are on the verge of shutting down (though I understand that Boeing might be interested in purchasing one of those companies for about 10% of what it was worth a year ago).
• The war has devastated Ukrainian industry, most of which was based in the east.
• 50,000 dead (German estimate)
• 1 million plus refugees, most fleeing to Russia. Looks like a lot of people don't believe the government's propaganda about Russia.
• It's generally agreed that corruption is now worse than it's ever been in Ukraine.
• Pensions, education, healthcare have all been slashed


 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
17. 1) That's not an answer to the point.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:07 PM
Mar 2015

The point was about the present Kiev regime. Yakking about how bad something else was doesn't change it.

2) Your "fact" about Somoza is utterly meaningless (what calculation could demonstrate the comparison, and how would it be relevant).

3) Yanukovych was elected, and could have been voted out of office this year, without a coup d'etat, an attack on the Russian speakers, recruitment of Nazi paramilitaries, an insane civil war that has killed thousands, roping the international community into a new cold war, conscription, etc. etc.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. White hat/black hat thinking is droll, dull and low brow simplification tending towards laughable demonization.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 08:06 PM
Mar 2015

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. So which do you prefer?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 08:17 PM
Mar 2015

Should what's left of Ukraine (assuming the remaining regions decide to stay united as one country) be "propped up" by Washington/EU, or Moscow?? It's going to be one or the other...

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