Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons, equipment given to Yemen
Source: Washington Post
The Pentagon is unable to account for more than $500 million in U.S. military aid given to Yemen amid fears that the weaponry, aircraft and equipment is at risk of being seized by Iranian-backed rebels or al-Qaeda, according to U.S. officials.
With Yemen in turmoil and its government splintering apart, the Defense Department has lost its ability to monitor the whereabouts of U.S.-donated small arms, ammunition, night-vision goggles, patrol boats, vehicles and other supplies. The situation has grown worse since the United States closed its embassy in Sanaa, the capital, last month and withdrew many of its military advisers.
In recent weeks, members of Congress have held closed-door meetings with U.S. military officials to press for an accounting of the arms and equipment. Pentagon officials have said they have little information to go on and that there is little they can do at this point to prevent the weapons and gear from falling into the wrong hands.
We have to assume its completely compromised and gone, said a legislative aide on Capitol Hill, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-loses-sight-of-500-million-in-counterterrorism-aid-given-to-yemen/2015/03/17/f4ca25ce-cbf9-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html
AngryDem001
(684 posts)mpcamb
(2,871 posts)Just sayin'...
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)The weapons and materiel that it bought is what's missing.
eomer
(3,845 posts)Seems much more likely to me that they went where they were meant to go but not to a place that we're supposed to know. Likely because they're funding and arming both sides, fomenting war rather than working toward peace. Just sayin'.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Biggest share of USA budget above all else & this is the cluster f**k that wants more more more.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)program that led to the spread and coalescence of ISIS from Jihadi militias originally inhabiting Eastern Libya. With the help of the CIA and Qatar, these militia morphed into the al Nusra and ISIS-led foreign opposition fighters in Syria, and then became ISIS in Sunni sections of Iraq and Yemen.
More than anyone else, HRC along with CIA Director Petraeus were the most forceful advocates within the US Government of serial regime change. The spread of radical Sunnis out of Libya was discussed by Clinton's colleagues, such as Sidney Blumenthal in his AOL email leaked by a Romanian hacker addressed to Hillary's "unclassified" email.
Don't assume these issues are unrelated or merely a Republican obsession.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)change program across MENA, even if they oppose HRC because she is a Democrat. Some DUers are avid regime changers, particularly those most tied to Hillary's candidacy, but they are less likely to openly embrace neocon policy prescriptions or to admit to themselves that they are neocons. It is possible that some Democrats are still unaware that the Clinton and Petraeus destabilization policies created and supported the spread the Sunni militias across the region that became ISIS.
I don't think that's necessarily a harsh judgement, just the apparent state of affairs.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)You mean GWB's stupid war in Iraq had very little to do with it? Or Bremer's illadvised firing of all Baath party Sunnis as well as all Sunni elements in Iraqi military and government?
Are you saying the movement in Tunisia had nothing to do with the self-immolation of a fruit vendor or are you saying Hillary have him matches, a bottle of kerosene and told him to light himself up because it would help her regime change?
The reality is that the US was caught off guard and unprepared for the speed and ferocity of the Arab spring movements and there was a complete policy vacuum. Some elements supported and some opposed -- neither had a crystal ball.
To say that HRC single-handedly caused and managed the Arab spring is hyperbole at best and a hit-piece at worst.
PS: I don't support regime change and I support Hillary. We need a candidate that can win in the general election whilst making history as the first woman president and advancing women's cause further in addition to supporting traditional democratic issues like a woman's right to choose, minimum wage increase, union involvement in policy, LGBT and racial/ethnic equality and taking religion out of politics.
You can support her saying you only agree with 90% of what she stands for or you can be vitriolic and try to shoot her down because she is not 100% in your camp and thus electing a repuke who is even less in your camp if at all.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)later after the eastern Libyan tribes (and the massive weapons stockpiles they seized) were organized under the black flag into Sunni battalions ready to fight the Shi'ia "apostate" regime in Syria. The overthrow and death of Kadaffi occurred under the organizing hand of the late Ambassador Stevens after his arrival in eastern Libya in April 2011. The subsequent outflow of armed Libyan mercenaries to Syria occurred in the months following the death of Kadaffi that September. Stevens was killed in the assault on the residence and nearby CIA compound a year later.
The uprisings in Libya and Syria occurred almost simultaneously following a highly similar and organized chains of events.
Meanwhile, Iraq was actually fairly quiet until the latter part of 2012, long after the withdrawal of most US forces. Iraq, which is predominantly Shi'ia, became the focus of ISIS expansion after that group took control over the opposition and had proclaimed the Islamic State over large amounts of territory in neighboring northeastern Syria. ISIS then proclaimed itself in charge of the parts of eastern Libya from which the bulk of Islamic fighters had originally sprung. The proclamation of ISIS control of north-west Yemen that had been al-Qaeda territory is fairly recent.
No, I would say that ISIS is not so much the result of the invasion of Iraq as much more recent policy that has destabilized regimes and led to religious war across MENA.
The US had a key role in logistics, intelligence, propaganda and coordination of forces behind the regime change operations in Libya and Syria. By no means was that carried out single-handedly by the Secretary of State, instead it was a multi-agency operation spearheaded by CIA with DoD and State. France and to a lesser extent the UK were the centers of the exile groups that simultaneously called for armed resistance in the Levant in early 2011. The Qataris had a major role both in igniting the rebellions and leading the armed resistance that emerged with outside assistance. Qatar had a boots on the ground combat operations in both Libya and Syria. Qatar along with the Saudis and Emirates provided the bulk of the money to various militias under their control.
Whether you acknowledge it or not, the spread of Sunni militias and wars across MENA was largely, but not exclusively, an essential part of the regime change project led within the US Government by CIA Director David Petraeus and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)who was giving them money and arms?
Well ... if I had not actually argued with someone who said USA never went to the moon, I'd be shocked.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)arms - particularly MANPADs - looted in Libya to blackmarket distributors in Turkey and Jordan. This was the point at which Obama withdrew his support for Operation Zero Footprint, the proxy war in Libya that was also feeding men and weapons into Syria.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)and SOS HRC served her President faithfully.
That was her job.
You blame her for it?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Yes, I blame her for being an author and a principal backer of a failed policy with catastrophic results. She was a leading advocate, not just an instrument of policies of regime change in Libya and Syria.
As a result of the failure of this policy that he had most aggressively pursued, Petraeus was fired and a few months later the President graciously accepted the resignation of the Secretary of State. It was Obama who restrained and ultimately brought this operation to a halt. The conflict within the Administration and the roles taken by Clinton and the other principals were all described in a series of articles in the WSJ and NYT. I'll dig out the links for you.
deep divisions over what to do about one of those issues the rising violence in Syria spilled into public view for the first time in a blunt exchange between Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and the leaders of the Pentagon.
Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta acknowledged that he and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, had supported a plan last year to arm carefully vetted Syrian rebels. But it was ultimately vetoed by the White House, Mr. Panetta said, although it was developed by David H. Petraeus, the C.I.A. director at the time, and backed by Hillary Rodham Clinton, then the secretary of state.
(. . .)
Neither Mr. Panetta nor General Dempsey explained why President Obama did not heed their recommendation. But senior American officials have said that the White House was worried about the risks of becoming more deeply involved in the Syria crisis, including the possibility that weapons could fall into the wrong hands. And with Mr. Obama in the middle of a re-election campaign, the White House rebuffed the plan, a decision that Mr. Panetta says he now accepts.
With the exception of General Dempsey, the officials who favored arming the rebels have either left the administration or, as in Mr. Panettas case, are about to depart. Given that turnover, it is perhaps not surprising that the details of the debate an illustration of the degree that foreign policy decisions have been centralized in the White House are surfacing only now. A White House spokesman declined to comment on Thursday.
The idea was to vet the rebel groups and train fighters, who would be supplied with weapons. The plan had risks, but it also offered the potential reward of creating Syrian allies with whom the United States could work, both during the conflict and after President Bashar al-Assads eventual removal.
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Petraeus presented the proposal to the White House, according to administration officials. But with the White House worried about the risks, and with President Obama in the midst of a re-election bid, they were rebuffed.
( . . .)
The disclosures about Mrs. Clintons behind-the-scenes role in Syria and Myanmar one a setback, the other a success offer a window into her time as a member of Mr. Obamas cabinet. They may also be a guide to her thinking as she ponders a future run for the presidency with favorability ratings that are the highest of her career, even after her last months at the State Department were marred by the deadly attack on the American Mission in Benghazi, Libya.
Secretary Clinton has dramatically changed the face of U.S. foreign policy globally for the good, said Richard L. Armitage, deputy secretary of state during the George W. Bush administration. But I wish she had been unleashed more by the White House.
(. . .)
After Britain and France argued for intervening to defend Libyas rebels against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Mrs. Clinton played an important role in mobilizing a broad international coalition and persuading the White House to join the NATO-led operation.
But it was Syria that proved to be the most difficult test. As that country descended into civil war, the administration provided humanitarian aid to the growing flood of refugees, pushed for sanctions and sought to organize the political opposition. The United States lagged France, Britain and Persian Gulf states in recognizing that opposition as the legitimate representative of the Syria people, but by December, Mr. Obama had taken that step.
Still, rebel fighters were clamoring for weapons and training. The White House has been reluctant to arm them for fear that it would draw the United States into the conflict and raise the risk of the weapons falling into the wrong hands. Rebel extremists affiliated with Al Qaeda had faced no such constraints in securing weapons from their backers.
When Mr. Petraeus was the commander of forces in Iraq and then-Senator Clinton was serving on the Senate Armed Services Committee and preparing for her 2008 presidential bid, she had all but called him a liar for trumpeting the military gains of the troop increase ordered by President Bush. But serving together in the Obama administration, they were allies when it came to Syria, as well as on the debate over how many troops to send to Afghanistan at the beginning of the administration.
Mr. Petraeus had a background in training foreign forces from his years in Iraq, and his C.I.A. job put him in charge of covert operations. The Americans already had experience in providing nonlethal assistance to some of the rebels.
Last week, we learned that Hillary Clinton and David Petraeus, now thankfully pursuing other opportunities and spending more time with their families, had cooked up a plan to arm and train the ragtag Syrian rebels, thus getting the United States directly involved in that horrible civil war.
Now we learn that Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefsboth of whom are about to join Clinton and Petraeus in the private sectoralso backed the Clinton-Petraeus plan,
Who was against it? Obama.
Heres how The New York Times reports the bombshell revelation, which emerged at a Senate Armed Service Committee hearing with Panetta and Dempsey, under questioning from the invariably pro-war John McCain:
Did the Pentagon, Mr. McCain continued, support the recommendation by Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Petraeus that we provide weapons to the resistance in Syria? Did you support that?
We did, Mr. Panetta said.
You did support that, Mr. McCain said.
We did, General Dempsey added.
Despite the formidable coalition of Panetta, Clinton, Petraeus, and Dempseyand no doubt Susan Rice was in there punching, tooObama nixed the idea.
Autumn
(45,096 posts)The Pentagon seems to be the most inept force on earth.
midnight
(26,624 posts)others countries Is this fast and furiouser?
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Wonder what they're trading arms for this time.
midnight
(26,624 posts)sorefeet
(1,241 posts)say the MIC is underfunded. They are pushing for more money to protect America. They really should be comedians.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)No, not Yemen. The Pentagon.
Journeyman
(15,035 posts)when in truth, he just had to wait around and eventually they'd give it to him.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)politics and corporate agendas in the US and Europe. I think he would be astonished by the resurgence of religion as the prime mover of global events and the strange alignments within 21st Century ethnic politics.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)was there any debate? Did anyone say something like this might happen?
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)If you believe this story, I've got a nice shiny bridge sell you.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Also I don't know. They may have supplied it under the table to someone, or they may really have lost track, or they may want to keep hush-hush how badly they've lost control of the arms (i.e., the arms really are in the hands of Qaeda forces). All of these are possibilities and for now all are compatible with overall policy. The arms-makers were paid. The region remains in chaos with multiple armies fighting each other in most of the countries, but not in the oil kingdoms, which remain secure and keep buying gear. The justifications for continued U.S. military spending & interventionist geopolitics are assured.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Possibly a coffee pot as well.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)And now, having lost a half-billion in 'arms and equipment', they'll need more $$ to resupply.
Up goes the Defense budget.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)2.3 TRILLION gone missing at the Pentagon and announced on 09/10/01. Apparently the Pentagon doesn't spend money on surveillance, or security at the Pentagon when any old plane can crash right into our biggest DEFENSE building at sea level speed with 40 minutes warning.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)Saddest win win ever.