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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 12:32 AM Mar 2015

APNEWSBREAK: State to divert 'fair share' fees from unions

Source: AP

BY JOHN O'CONNOR

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) -- Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner, dogged in attempts to eliminate fees paid to unions by workers who choose not to join, has instructed state agencies to divert money from nonunion employee paychecks away from organized labor until a judge settles the matter.

In a memo obtained by The Associated Press, general counsel Jason Barclay directs departments under the Republican governor's control to create two sets of books, one of which would move deductions from nonunion members to the operations budgets of state agencies instead of to the unions, although the money would not be spent.

The idea was immediately condemned by the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, the largest of two dozen unions that filed a countersuit over an executive order Rauner signed last month calling the fees a free-speech violation. He's seeking a federal court's declaration that they are unconstitutional.

"This legally questionable scheme shows the lengths to which Gov. Rauner will go in his obsession to undermine labor unions," Roberta Lynch, executive director of the Illinois council of AFSCME, said in a prepared statement. "To frustrate lawful fair-share agreements, Rauner is ordering payroll staff to make unauthorized reductions in employees' established salaries."

FULL story at link.



AP Photo/Seth Perlman

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APNEWSBREAK: State to divert 'fair share' fees from unions (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2015 OP
Since when do politicians not spend money in the bank? Trillo Mar 2015 #1
Sounds so mafia like, GOP - Koch Brothers mafia. Historic NY Mar 2015 #8
Loathsome Scootaloo Mar 2015 #2
Union has no choice in defending non-union workers Midnight Writer Mar 2015 #4
I know, was in training for the same stuff Scootaloo Mar 2015 #6
My wife experienced a similar situation where she works... KansDem Mar 2015 #7
Put it in state coffers? He's batshit. Another Koch lackey! n/t freshwest Mar 2015 #3
I hope the Madigans et. al. are murielm99 Mar 2015 #5
Majority turbinetree Mar 2015 #9
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Loathsome
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 12:49 AM
Mar 2015

Either the union ends up with fewer resources to defend all the workers with, OR it has to decide to withdraw protection from non-union workers... which does nothing but makes those workers more vulnerable and makes th union look like dicks.

Win-win for the oligarchs.

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
4. Union has no choice in defending non-union workers
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:28 AM
Mar 2015

I was a union steward in an open shop for nearly 30 years. I was warned repeatedly that I had to defend non-union (read Free Riders) as vigorously as dues paying union members, or the union and myself personally could face a lawsuit. I had many non-union Free Riders remind me of that, and I was threatened with lawsuits more than once by non-union folk that I defended again and again.

Our local union often refused to reimburse me for my actions in defending Free Riders, so I worked on my own dime, especially in cases that a worker was really being screwed over by management. Typically, workers in trouble were repeat offenders, and I spent most of my time defending the same Free Riders over and over again. But even if I saved their sorry asses from the unemployment line, these were the folks who refused to pay dues and were most critical of the union (and me).

The national union paid for drug and alcohol counseling, stints in rehab, marriage counseling, psychiatric evaluations and treatment, and physical evaluations and treatment, all without collecting a penny from these Free Riders. And as you may have guessed, these people were conservative Reagan devotees who opposed unions because "everyone needs to stand on their own two feet".

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. I know, was in training for the same stuff
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:26 AM
Mar 2015

I meant that this could force a chance of practice - which as you point out could only possibly hurt th union, and the workers who think they're being helped.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
7. My wife experienced a similar situation where she works...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:43 AM
Mar 2015

She works at a community college in Kansas. Several years ago, in her department all but two of her colleagues were members of the KNEA. These two non-members were on-the-record as "anti-union." But when the union negotiated raises and better working conditions for its members, guess who was at the head of the line, crying "Gimme!"? Although non-members, they still enjoyed Union representation without paying the dues. These two right-to-workers have long since moved on, but it still irks us how they could bad-mouth the union but still indulge in its benefits.

...conservative Reagan devotees who opposed unions because "everyone needs to stand on their own two feet" Describes them to a T!

In our house, they weren't known as "Free Riders;" they were referred to as "The Parasites."

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
5. I hope the Madigans et. al. are
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:47 AM
Mar 2015

keeping tabs on all the illegal things this moron is doing. This is one Illinois governor who needs to go to jail BEFORE his term is up. We send most of them to jail anyway. For Rauner, the sooner we do this, the better it will be for the state.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
9. Majority
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:57 PM
Mar 2015

To bad this republican right wing governor hasn't figured out that when a group of people like employees either state or private vote to have representation, its done with a 50+1 majority (democracy) and they voted for it for a reason to protect themselves from people like him and from the National Right to Work for Less corporations and businesses and the Authoritarian Capitalists.
But not this governor he makes the rules the way he wants them, to hell with a democratically represented 50+1 vote.

But not in the right wing republican, libertarian, tea party world lets have two sets of books, that's the ticket, just like AIG, Lehman Brothers, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, UBS, Credit Swiss, ect.... with no accountability until after the fact, guess who bailed them out, the United States Treasury for and by the people of this country for 850 billion.

And this is what is going to happen in this state with this governor in my opinion, because there will be a short fall in obligations.

Then when some of these employees that keep voting against there best interest because they are suckers, because they haven't figure this out yet that the millionaires & billionaires get cronies in the leadership positions (which was bought and paid for with campaign contributions wanting pay back thanks to a corrupt U.S. Supreme court, like in campaign contributions that corporations are people to mantra and the evisceration of union representation and the steady decline of middle class standard of living in the last 40 years because of ruling against the worker, and money is now free speech----right) and the millionaires that work for the other millionaires and billionaires getting tax breaks and bonuses of 937% while a suckers gets only 12.5% in the last twenty years, says a lot of about this country and what the politically connected think of the American worker-----not much.
Then you have the suckers, the middle class state and private workers thinking that if they don't have to pay these dues, they'll get tax breaks just like the billionaires and millionaires and "one" day they'll be just like them the dream is almost there, I have got to vote against my best interests.

Then they wonder why there benefits are not there---duh!!!
Ever heard of a ponzi scheme, or better yet a three card monte, or the proverbial shell game table?

That they will have there pension funds and Social Security privatized for greed, there medicare and Medicaid care privatized for greed, there kids education will be privatized for greed, there sewer and water will be privatized for greed, the list goes on and on, and then they whine that there union dues are being diverted to help them with the 50+1 majority system of a democracy while at the same time you have politicians such as this governor attacking them from the back side, while the cronies keep getting wealthy with the tax breaks.

I just wonder if any of them just looked at there 2015 taxes to see how they are getting screwed because the things they used to be able to deduct is now gone, (interest on credit cards, interest on car payments, full deduction on health care, partial deduction in education fees, union dues, ect...), because of the subsidizes (former deductions) are being passed up to the billionaires and millionaires if the sucker doesn't meet the AGI adjusted gross income threshold, while the crooks keep getting tax breaks.

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