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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:12 PM Mar 2015

Religious broadcaster warns Christians to ‘prepare for martyrdom’ if Supreme Court legalizes gay mar

Source: Raw Story

Sandy Rios, director of governmental affairs for the American Family Association and host of a daily radio program, did not specify what she meant by that – but her context was clear.

“Homosexual marriage is going to bring about the tip of the spear of the battle we’re going to face,” Rios said Thursday to a gathering of religious right activists and pastors.

“In Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years, the stories would make the hair stand up on the back of your neck,” she said, although she did not share any of those hair-raising examples.

She told the Christian activists to “stop playing it safe,” telling them the Bible encouraged bold action.

“You must prepare for martyrdom,” Rios said. “I don’t know what it’s going to look like, but it’s coming.”


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/religious-broadcaster-warns-christians-to-prepare-for-martyrdom-if-supreme-court-legalizes-gay-marriage/



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Religious broadcaster warns Christians to ‘prepare for martyrdom’ if Supreme Court legalizes gay mar (Original Post) azurnoir Mar 2015 OP
These nut cases have spent the last 2 decades arming themselves to the teeth blm Mar 2015 #1
I hope she goes first. roguevalley Mar 2015 #52
Martyrdom, eh? leftofcool Mar 2015 #2
Zookeepers warn lions not to overeat jberryhill Mar 2015 #3
... riqster Mar 2015 #8
Funny! leftofcool Mar 2015 #43
......... trusty elf Mar 2015 #63
Martyrdom? WTF does that ever mean? mountain grammy Mar 2015 #4
It translates to "increased tithing" n/t arcane1 Mar 2015 #13
Here I thought the Christian Bible encouraged safeinOhio Mar 2015 #5
Nah, the only part that bunch follows is the part that tells them to hate gay people. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #82
This is up there with "Obama's coming for your gunz!!!!" d_legendary1 Mar 2015 #6
"American Christian Mullah" Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #7
Sounds like a Fox mini-series azurnoir Mar 2015 #9
Hope they release it,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #16
I heard the Syria/Iraq border area is nice this time of year. Lucky Luciano Mar 2015 #10
$10 says she's not one of the 72 virgins. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #11
$20 she gets turned away at The Pearly Gates? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #17
50 says that she goes the wrong way android fan Mar 2015 #68
They said the same thing about interracial marriage, I bet. sakabatou Mar 2015 #12
This seems to be bordering on advocating religious terrorism. drm604 Mar 2015 #14
There is no line in America, is there? If there was, it may have been moved by the click mad media. Free speech?? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #19
Free speech does not protect someone who urges immediate violence. drm604 Mar 2015 #24
Current US jurisprudence is the "Brandenburg test" sir pball Mar 2015 #56
Which is basically what I said. drm604 Mar 2015 #60
Except in a lot more detail Thor_MN Mar 2015 #86
I guess ,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #15
Is this comparable to Sharron Angle's "2nd Amendment remedies?" KansDem Mar 2015 #18
What "Massachusetts hair raising stories" is this nitwit talking about? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #20
you notice she did not provide any examples. apparently even the voices aren't talking niyad Mar 2015 #26
Oh, they're talking to her, just in a language she doesn't understand with words like Panich52 Mar 2015 #33
I know, most definitely a very foreign language. niyad Mar 2015 #65
Snow in winter Paulie Mar 2015 #38
They elected a Republican governor rpannier Mar 2015 #42
..who just filed a brief with the SCOTUS supporting gay marriage, TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #50
Some same-sex couples there have gotten divorced. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #49
I live here and I havent a clue what she means Marrah_G Mar 2015 #70
Oh.... you know.... waddirum Mar 2015 #74
Martyrdom, hmm perhaps they're going to strap explosives to themselves and show up at gay weddings. YOHABLO Mar 2015 #21
Don't give them any idea's there's enough wacko's out there azurnoir Mar 2015 #23
Exactly. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #83
Please. Terminate yourselves. Make the world a better place. nt valerief Mar 2015 #22
self-immolation is the only thing I can see, since nobody is actually persecuting them. niyad Mar 2015 #25
HUUUMMMM, as soon as they realize Jesus loved everyone then they can blame him. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #27
Yet another Jihad C_U_L8R Mar 2015 #28
More proof that she's living in the dark ages - doing battle with.....spears? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #29
Every day, straight folks serve up the hate, preachers, politicians, pop stars. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #30
FALSE PROPHETS blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #31
But real profits. Thor_MN Mar 2015 #45
http://www.2flashgames.com/mp/2006_Jesus_Camp/movieposter.jpg blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #32
Looks like child abuse to me. (nt) paleotn Mar 2015 #40
That was a very un-nerving movie Marrah_G Mar 2015 #71
Is Sandy Rios trying to incite violent, murderous behaviour canuckledragger Mar 2015 #34
I am Zorra, all powerful Witch Goddess of Teh Gay, who will part the seas Zorra Mar 2015 #35
will she be in the front lines??? ha ha doubt it!! oldandhappy Mar 2015 #36
Wrap his head in a turban and call hiwm ayatollah CanonRay Mar 2015 #37
Nice dog whistle Ruby the Liberal Mar 2015 #39
All right, that's quite enough. Would someone let out the lions?! (nt) paleotn Mar 2015 #41
I don't think there are enough lions left, unfortunately. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #84
“In Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years..." - is this true? SwissTony Mar 2015 #44
Ha! Trains already left the station, bub. nt 7962 Mar 2015 #46
Wow, what paranoia. Hey, anyone know where I can get a good deal on a guillotine? n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #47
You have to make your own, but they're not difficult jmowreader Mar 2015 #78
There have to have been advances in all these hundreds of years, yes? jtuck004 Mar 2015 #79
metalsdepot.com has some 1" thick aluminum plate jmowreader Mar 2015 #80
After you, sweetie. Remember, the first Christian gets the hungriest lion. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #48
They should all gather at local sports arenas LiberalFighter Mar 2015 #51
As long as they also let them know that martyrs don't fight back. Warpy Mar 2015 #53
If she'd died in battle, okasha Mar 2015 #73
common theme of martyrdom in religious fanatism samsingh Mar 2015 #54
Anyone know where I can buy ... NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #55
Order soon to beat the Easter rush. Amazon Prime is the best bet. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #57
Thanks for the heads-up! NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #58
I had ruled out Home Depot and Lowe's, TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #64
Batshit insane workinclasszero Mar 2015 #59
Terrorist. Pick her ass up before she kills someone. SoapBox Mar 2015 #61
What is the fictional analogy here, of the princess yapping at her servants, closeupready Mar 2015 #62
As a former evangelical Christian Bradical79 Mar 2015 #66
Goodidea, Christians. I suggest self-immolation. Have at it! Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #67
Sounds good to me Tom Ripley Mar 2015 #69
It's ok, doubtless religion has nothing to do with this whatthehey Mar 2015 #72
Doesn't make sense KevJo Mar 2015 #75
So she wants to be a Republican Presdential candidate... chknltl Mar 2015 #76
I really need to hear her "hair raising examples" Skittles Mar 2015 #77
I hope it involves Kool Aid, aka Jim Jones style. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #81
Gay marriage kills Christians? Who knew? yellowcanine Mar 2015 #85

blm

(113,061 posts)
1. These nut cases have spent the last 2 decades arming themselves to the teeth
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:16 PM
Mar 2015

because of the constant doomsday prophecies that compel their narrative. No one ever bothered to explain to them the difference between 'prophecy' and 'self-fulfilling prophecy'.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. Martyrdom, eh?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:16 PM
Mar 2015

As in? Hanging oneself upside down on a cross? Oh, I got it! Wondering in the desert without food and water, right?

safeinOhio

(32,677 posts)
5. Here I thought the Christian Bible encouraged
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:24 PM
Mar 2015

us to forgive others as we wished to be forgiven and to judge not, least we be judged.

I must have read it wrong.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
82. Nah, the only part that bunch follows is the part that tells them to hate gay people.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:08 AM
Mar 2015

The rest of the rules in there are completely optional. The only sin left is being gay, according to them. Everything else is A-ok.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
6. This is up there with "Obama's coming for your gunz!!!!"
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

After sending their members in a panic then they ask for collections in order to stop the threat of homersexuality from invading their lives. Rinse and repeat.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
14. This seems to be bordering on advocating religious terrorism.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

I'm not sure if she's stepped over the line legally but she's awful close.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. There is no line in America, is there? If there was, it may have been moved by the click mad media. Free speech??
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:36 PM
Mar 2015

"Incitement to violence to overthrow the government"?

This is the same as saying prepare to die quietly? No, it is a message to arm yourselves against the killing government....seems more than close to the legal line.

Hope there is an opening on the FBI home visit calendar.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
24. Free speech does not protect someone who urges immediate violence.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:40 PM
Mar 2015

The 1st amendment does not protect everything and anything.

sir pball

(4,742 posts)
56. Current US jurisprudence is the "Brandenburg test"
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:51 PM
Mar 2015

Even openly advocating violence is OK as long as you aren't in a situation where you're attempting to, and also have a reasonable chance of, inciting criminal acts:

the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.


It's a very high bar to meet, and I'm OK with that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
15. I guess ,,,
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

these quasi GOP Christians skipped over all that Jesus said about not judging others or they have decided He didnt really mean what He Said, heh?

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
20. What "Massachusetts hair raising stories" is this nitwit talking about?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

Oh, the ones that the little voices in her head told her.

Got it.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
33. Oh, they're talking to her, just in a language she doesn't understand with words like
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:16 PM
Mar 2015

'tolerance,' 'civil rights,' 'fairness'...

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
50. ..who just filed a brief with the SCOTUS supporting gay marriage,
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:27 PM
Mar 2015

so it ain't all bad.

He really pissed off the right wingers (what few there are of the them) in his own party.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
49. Some same-sex couples there have gotten divorced.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:21 PM
Mar 2015

They were allowed to marry, they thought they'd found The One that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with, but after a while it didn't work out and they split up. Many of them experienced a lot of heartache over the whole process.

You know, sort of the way some straight people do.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
70. I live here and I havent a clue what she means
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:51 PM
Mar 2015

There has been no effect from marriage equality here except for an increased sense of security and happiness for our LGBT citizens....

waddirum

(979 posts)
74. Oh.... you know....
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:16 AM
Mar 2015

Adam and Steve got "gay married", settled down in the ex-urbs, adopted some kids, rescued some pets, got a netflix subscription, joined the Freemasons, joined a church, got old...

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
21. Martyrdom, hmm perhaps they're going to strap explosives to themselves and show up at gay weddings.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
83. Exactly.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:10 AM
Mar 2015

I wouldn't put something like that past a lot of them. They are downright dangerous in my area.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
29. More proof that she's living in the dark ages - doing battle with.....spears?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:58 PM
Mar 2015

Where do they find these idiots?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
30. Every day, straight folks serve up the hate, preachers, politicians, pop stars.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:02 PM
Mar 2015

No matter how awful the rhetoric, the straights gather to defend them.

canuckledragger

(1,641 posts)
34. Is Sandy Rios trying to incite violent, murderous behaviour
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:28 PM
Mar 2015

in others because she can't handle the idea of gay people being treated fairly and equally?

Sounds like it.

I wonder if the hypocritical right wing will harass her for suggesting violence the way they do when they try to frame Al Sharpton for the violence done by and inspired by the Ferguson Police Dept's actions?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
35. I am Zorra, all powerful Witch Goddess of Teh Gay, who will part the seas
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:47 PM
Mar 2015

and martyr the RW Pseudo Christians of the world simply by legally marrying my girlfriend!!!



Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
39. Nice dog whistle
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:59 PM
Mar 2015

Doom and gloom without specifics - that lets every nutjob make up their own 'disaster' scenario.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
84. I don't think there are enough lions left, unfortunately.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:17 AM
Mar 2015

Unless we can find a way to round them up and feed them directly to the last few lions that are left, I doubt we'll get the chance. I wish I was rich and a DNA expect. I would try to save at least a good sample of lion DNA in case the human species ever wakes up and realizes that these crackpots NEED to be fed to lions. It is long past due.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
44. “In Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years..." - is this true?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:32 PM
Mar 2015

If so, well done, Massachusetts!!!!! Excellent work.

Here in The Netherlands, gay marriage has been legal since 2001. Amazingly, we've survived rather well.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
78. You have to make your own, but they're not difficult
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:02 AM
Mar 2015

The only thing that's really going to give you trouble is the blade, but any machine shop worthy of the name can knock out a guillotine blade in a couple of hours.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
79. There have to have been advances in all these hundreds of years, yes?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:59 AM
Mar 2015

I wonder if I can get a non-stick blade? I was thinking stainless, but that could be prohibitively expensive.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
80. metalsdepot.com has some 1" thick aluminum plate
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:17 AM
Mar 2015

I think a 2' x 4' plate would be just dandy...you could cut it diagonally and have two blades. And I think you're going to need two; once you get a guillotine and start using it you'll really like it and want another one.

Given that, PLEASE sharpen it with a belt sander instead of a grinding wheel; non sparking metal can't be ground on an abrasive wheel because it'll clog and eventually explode.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
53. As long as they also let them know that martyrs don't fight back.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:55 PM
Mar 2015

It's one of the characteristics.

Had Joan of Arc been killed on the battlefield, she'd have been just one more dead would-be rebel.

Taken by the English and executed at Rouen, she became a martyr.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
73. If she'd died in battle,
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:55 PM
Mar 2015

she'd still be the hero who got Charles the Wuss to Rheims to be crowned.

She wouldn't be a canonized saint, though.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
54. common theme of martyrdom in religious fanatism
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:05 PM
Mar 2015

mind you those calling for it don't seem to go out and get it themselves - only other people

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
55. Anyone know where I can buy ...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:24 PM
Mar 2015

... a "DIY Persecution Kit" to send to this idiot?

Contains two pre-cut wooden beams, a bag of over-sized nails, and a hammer. (Crown of thorns available with deluxe kit only.)

I wouldn't want her to be found wanting when the crucifixions begin.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
58. Thanks for the heads-up!
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:20 PM
Mar 2015

Checked out Home Depot and Lowe's earlier this week, but apparently they sold out during Lent, along with the "Sackcloth & Ashes X-treme" kits and the "Christians v Lions" video games.









TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
64. I had ruled out Home Depot and Lowe's,
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 08:42 AM
Mar 2015

simply because taking two landscape timbers and fashioning them into a "cross" configuration without a kit with detailed instructions or a YouTube video would be a daunting task for these folks.

Also, the idea of building something so big and bulky while one's hands are clasped in a perpetual state of prayer could be a problem.

DIY isn't for everyone. Folks like Ms. Rios should leave it to their paid staffers.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
59. Batshit insane
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:25 PM
Mar 2015

I mean yeah two gay men or women getting married equals instant death to my fellow christians!

Teh STOOPID IT HURTS!

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
62. What is the fictional analogy here, of the princess yapping at her servants,
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 02:07 AM
Mar 2015

when it starts raining or when the leaves start turning color in autumn, "Don't just stand there; DO something!"? Help me here, folks.... ? The Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
66. As a former evangelical Christian
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:28 PM
Mar 2015

martyrdom usually referenced events occurring after some miraculous end times prophesies that I know will never occur. I figure that's the one reason our Christian crazies aren't part of any massive organized "jihad" like what you see among middle east extremists yet. Unfortunately, there's still more than enough vague fear mongering like this to inspire plenty of lone wolf lunatics.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
72. It's ok, doubtless religion has nothing to do with this
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 11:54 AM
Mar 2015

Since according to the DU faithapologists, religion is completely disconnected from any negative actions or opinions, even when those responsible say they are motivated by religion and act accordingly.

KevJo

(2 posts)
75. Doesn't make sense
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:10 AM
Mar 2015
“Homosexual marriage is going to bring about the tip of the spear of the battle we’re going to face,”

Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years


Then shouldn't the "battle" have been going on for ten years now?

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
76. So she wants to be a Republican Presdential candidate...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:17 AM
Mar 2015

...why else would one want to wave their +2 Spear of Stupid around for all to see?

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
81. I hope it involves Kool Aid, aka Jim Jones style.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:06 AM
Mar 2015

I'm fucking sick of their bullshit. I hope they off themselves and leave the rest of us alone.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
85. Gay marriage kills Christians? Who knew?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:08 AM
Mar 2015

This woman has no clue about what it means to be a Christian martyr.

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