Syrian military helicopter crashes, insurgents capture crew
Source: AP-Excite
BEIRUT (AP) Syrian insurgents captured several government airmen after their helicopter crashed in a rebel-held area of northwestern Syria on Sunday, activists said.
The Idlib Media Center and the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the helicopter went down near Jabal al-Zawiya, some 10 kilometers (6 miles) north of the town of Maarat al-Numan in Idlib province.
The aircraft experienced a technical malfunction and made an emergency crash-landing, according to the Observatory.
Syria's state news agency confirmed that a helicopter had crashed in Idlib after a mechanical problem and said the authorities were looking for the crew.
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(68,868 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Does anyone give a damn?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)That's the Al Qaeda affiliate. And ISIS rival.
These guys just might survive.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's so hard for me to keep up, the US supported rebels are the good guys, of course.
They must have tons of equipment and logistical support, as well as air support, so they must be winning this battle against Assad, right? For the good team?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)There aren't very many of them, relatively speaking.
They don't have tons of equipment. The US has committed to training and equipping a few thousand, but that hasn't happened yet.
Speaking of air support, I haven't heard much about the air campaign in Syria lately. Except around Kobani, when we were helping the Syrian Kurds, we just seem to bomb ISIS without coordinating with other rebels. I don't think there are many others in the ISIS heartland.
And those dang moderate rebels, such as they are, keep coordinating with the Islamists, including Al Nusra, and sometimes bands of them get folded into Al Nusra, and then our equipment and our training ends up with the local Al Qaeda affiliate.
Kerry hinted recently he was open to talking to Assad instead of insisting his departure be the starting point of negotiations. A negotiated settlement and then everybody going after ISIS and Al Nusra would be progress.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey (in the main), didn't happen.
Cool, I didn't think so either. I heard so little about it on the news, in the MSM, that I knew it couldn't be happening. And on DU, there's been total negation. Friends of Libya, Friends of Syria, didn't happen. I like that, to be freed from awareness.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Guns and money. Some of it went to the FSA--the moderate rebels--some of it went to Islamist factions. The problem was, there was never any unified armed opposition; it was (and is) a bunch of armed militias vying with each other as much as Assad, and the Islamists, whether Al Nusra, ISIS, or others, have done a better job of kicking ass.
I think the CIA had a secret program to train and equip "moderate rebels" before Obama made it official. But it was chump change compared to what the Saudis and Qatar were/are doing.
The US hasn't intervened decisively enough to change anything, just to add to the fuckupedness. In general, we've been a baleful influence there, encouraging the rebels who have already lost to keep bleeding the country in order to pressure Assad. That's a pretty cynical game.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I call bullshit on you.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)quadrature
(2,049 posts)those weapons are now everywhere in the ME.
......
seems rather decisive to me
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)And I don't know how you know where those weapons are.
I used the word "decisive" in regard to US policy in Syria. The US has not done anything decisive. It has not directly intervened militarily. Its assistance to "moderate rebels" has been more symbolic than anything. It has not done anything to stop the fighting, but rather has acted quite cynically to encourage it.
Don't get me wrong. I think the US should stay the hell out of Syria. It's not our country. It's not even our neighborhood.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)that much is obvious
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Or do you have any evidence to back your claims?
Who sold the weapons for cash? And to whom?
I mean, yeah, we don't know where they are, so they indeed "ended up in parts unknown." But other than that, what have you got?
delrem
(9,688 posts)The notion being floated, that the US accompanied by it's partners Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, has had no appreciable impact on the war on Syria is ludicrous. How can one discuss the issue rationally with people who would deny such a basic as that?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)I said the US had not acted decisively, either by doing something really stupid like invading or by actually working to achieve peace. Instead, it seeks to cynically bleed Syria.
I mentioned the US as a baleful influence and cited the role of Saudia Arabia and Qatar.
I never said that US policy "has no appreciable impact."
You seem to want to deliberately misinterpret what I say. Why am I wasting time on you? You've got nothing but snark.
delrem
(9,688 posts)"The US hasn't intervened decisively enough to change anything"