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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:08 AM Mar 2015

Ted Cruz: I Am THE Conservative Candidate For President

Source: TPM

LYNCHBURG, Va. — Sen. Ted Cruz was treated to a hero's welcome here at the evangelical Liberty University on Monday when he became the first major candidate to officially jump into the 2016 presidential race.

The Republican firebrand from Texas delivered a speech in a packed auditorium at convocation held at the school founded by the late televangelist Jerry Falwell. It is a thrice-weekly event that's mandatory for students, the university said.

"I want to talk to you this morning about reigniting the promise of America," Cruz said, to cheers.

"Amen," said a member of the audience.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/ted-cruz-liberty-speech-president

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Ted Cruz: I Am THE Conservative Candidate For President (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
Gass up the clown car, or in the case of the republicans the clown bus. George II Mar 2015 #1
Um - am I missing something here? calimary Mar 2015 #2
"I am THE Canadian Candidate For President" Splinter Cell Mar 2015 #4
His mother is/was an American citizen so, he's one automatically... DonViejo Mar 2015 #5
Well, that fits Barack Obama too, and look how far that carried with these people. calimary Mar 2015 #10
President Obama was born in the U.S., Hawaii specifically, and his mother was a U.S. citizen. DonViejo Mar 2015 #17
"ted cruz can't run for President. He doesn't QUALIFY to run for President." BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #7
Exactly. I'm watching Mrs. Greenspan on the air now. NOBODY ON THERE has yet to make this point. calimary Mar 2015 #12
"This guy doesn't even qualify. He wasn't US-born." It's a bit murky there. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #16
Yes. mccain was indeed technically born on US soil - because the Canal Zone was, at the time of his calimary Mar 2015 #18
He did produce his Canadian birth certificate SwankyXomb Mar 2015 #13
Ted Cruz promises to destroy America using the Constitution. Why doesn't he go to Cuba rladdi Mar 2015 #3
Yeah, I love that part of it, too. Liberty "University." HAH! calimary Mar 2015 #11
CONSERVATIVE Representative Peter King sent out a tweet calling Cruz.... George II Mar 2015 #6
Peter King, no matter how much I dislike him, is still a true Conservative. Rafael Cruz is NOT. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #8
If you go to King's website, he has links to several press releases criticizing.... George II Mar 2015 #20
Beyond this Tedsarah craze, what scares me the most - asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #9
No Cruz sloopdog50 Mar 2015 #14
I don't care if his father is a communist... cyberswede Mar 2015 #19
Welcometo DU, sloopdog50! calimary Mar 2015 #21
But don't you see ... staggerleem Mar 2015 #24
If Canadians can be US presidents, would you really want THIS Canadian? jmowreader Mar 2015 #29
First clown into the car gets to drive. Orsino Mar 2015 #15
Well then, so be it. Let him drive. Straight over a cliff. calimary Mar 2015 #22
Will Jeb Bush call "shotgun"? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #30
Please proceed... Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #23
One of the 47 mywhitecat Mar 2015 #25
Goo Goo G'joob tanyev Mar 2015 #26
Conservative = nazis wshaffer Mar 2015 #27
His campaign is off to a wonderful (for us) start. christx30 Mar 2015 #28
They held a pajama party on Sunday night for his announcement on Twitter. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #31
No shit, Rafael Tom Ripley Mar 2015 #32

calimary

(81,399 posts)
2. Um - am I missing something here?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:13 AM
Mar 2015

ted cruz can't run for President. He doesn't QUALIFY to run for President. He wasn't born here. He was born in Canada. Last I looked, Canada was NOT one of the 50 states.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
5. His mother is/was an American citizen so, he's one automatically...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:21 AM
Mar 2015

same rules applied to John McCain, born in Panama.

calimary

(81,399 posts)
10. Well, that fits Barack Obama too, and look how far that carried with these people.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:05 PM
Mar 2015

SAME RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. "ted cruz can't run for President. He doesn't QUALIFY to run for President."
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:32 AM
Mar 2015

Let's see if M$M will begin reporting with the same viciousness and fervor about Teddy's Canadian birth place, and let's see if they dare question whether he's qualified to run for U.S. President as they'd done with President Obama.

Let's see if the Neo-Confederates posing as Republicans will come out, frothing at the mouth, that Ted is a "furrner" and not qualified to be president! Let's see if they'll demand to see his LONG FORM birth certificate and hospital records. Let's see Oily Taitz rush to file one law suit after another.

If none of this happens, then they can no longer hide the fact that their attacks of President Obama for being born in Hawaii, was nothing more than pure RACISM by sore-loser RACISTS who can't stand the idea of having a Black man in the White House.

calimary

(81,399 posts)
12. Exactly. I'm watching Mrs. Greenspan on the air now. NOBODY ON THERE has yet to make this point.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:09 PM
Mar 2015

NOBODY's even brought it up. Er - uh - folks - um, this one's a non-starter. This guy doesn't even qualify. He wasn't US-born.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
16. "This guy doesn't even qualify. He wasn't US-born." It's a bit murky there.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:37 PM
Mar 2015

According to Congressional Republicans, if a person isn't born on U.S. soil, they're not qualified to be President of the United States even though they are a natural born U.S. citizen who was born on foreign soil. But I don't see anything in the U.S. Constitution that stipulates that. So I'm not entirely certain whether or not Rafael Cruz Jr., is qualified to be president or not since the U.S. Surpreme Court has never ruled on what a natural born citizen is.

From Politifact:

Defining "natural born"

So what is a "natural born" citizen? The Constitution doesn’t specifically say.

In 2008, we reviewed research and polled several legal experts. The consensus was that someone is a "natural born" citizen if they have citizenship at birth and don’t have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen.

If that’s the definition, then Cruz is a natural born citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth. (This same logic would apply to Obama, even if he were born in another country, which he wasn’t.)

The Congressional Research Service published a report on the issue after the 2008 election; the agency is tasked with providing authoritative research to all members of Congress. It, too, supported the thinking that "natural born" citizenship means citizenship held "at birth."

But the Supreme Court -- the ultimate arbiter of constitutional questions -- has never ruled on the matter. And that means a note of uncertainty remains.

Sarah H. Duggin, a professor of law at Catholic University, has written about and studied the issue extensively. She told us in 2008 that the question of natural born citizenship is "one of the most deceptively simple, complex issues."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/aug/20/ted-cruz-born-canada-eligible-run-president/


Also from that site:
Interestingly, both of McCain’s potential Democratic opponents -- Obama and then-Sen. Hillary Clinton -- co-sponsored a Senate measure to settle McCain’s eligibility. The April 2008 resolution said, "John Sidney McCain, III, is a 'natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States."

So until the U.S. Supreme Court declares otherwise, for me, it's still a bit murky. But everything appears to support a Rafael Cruz Jr., presidential run despite being born on foreign soil that wasn't a part of the United States (unlike John McCain who was, technically, born on U.S. soil).

calimary

(81,399 posts)
18. Yes. mccain was indeed technically born on US soil - because the Canal Zone was, at the time of his
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

birth, a US territory or possession, or whatever the category was. Not all of Panama. Just the Canal Zone. So yes, john mccain qualified. Because a US territory or possession is still considered US soil. Just as every embassy is, no matter where it's located. That embassy for that nation IS, technically, on that nation's soil. So if john mccain had been born on the grounds at the US Embassy anywhere on the planet, he would still be considered a citizen born on American soil. Same thing for ted cruz. But that's not what happened with ted cruz. ted cruz was born in another, separate, sovereign country: Canada. He's a North American citizen, but then again so are the citizens of Cuba and Mexico and Central America, too. But none of them qualify to run for President of the United States.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
13. He did produce his Canadian birth certificate
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:11 PM
Mar 2015

Now all we need is his FS-240 and he can put it to rest.

rladdi

(581 posts)
3. Ted Cruz promises to destroy America using the Constitution. Why doesn't he go to Cuba
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:18 AM
Mar 2015

and free that nation and its people. Why is he the real Canadian ISIS now in the USA, trying to destroy us. Only at Liberty Univ. would he speak like he is the real GOD, going to save our nation. HOW evil he is. And Christians believe his false GOD>

calimary

(81,399 posts)
11. Yeah, I love that part of it, too. Liberty "University." HAH!
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:07 PM
Mar 2015

Bullshit straight off the starting block.

But we knew that already.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. CONSERVATIVE Representative Peter King sent out a tweet calling Cruz....
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:25 AM
Mar 2015

....a carnival barker! It was read on CNN, I can't find the exact message though.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. Peter King, no matter how much I dislike him, is still a true Conservative. Rafael Cruz is NOT.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:33 AM
Mar 2015

He's a fascist neo-confederate lackey, and I'm looking forward to U.S. Media to question whether he's qualified to be president of the United States - with the same frothing fervor that they'd questioned President Obama.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. If you go to King's website, he has links to several press releases criticizing....
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:35 PM
Mar 2015

....Cruz, Rand Paul, and others.

When I saw his address at the IAFF a couple of weeks ago, criticizing his own party's holdup of Homeland Security funds and other important programs, I sent him an email telling him that although we're on complete opposite sides of the political spectrum, I appreciate him sticking up for the country and standing up against his own party members. I also pointed out that although I was born in NYC, I am NOT a constituent of his but wanted to thank him.

Believe it or not, a week ago I got a PERSONAL letter from him with a very nice, handwritten note on it.

THAT is how politicians on both sides should be - we can disagree on policy but we all have to remember that we still are all Americans.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. Beyond this Tedsarah craze, what scares me the most -
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:54 AM
Mar 2015

there is a whole University full of batshit thinking people - tedsarah surely will make for a supersized clown car...he will, by design, make the other batshit crazy republican candidates look half-sane.....they need tedsarah in the mix....

Can't wait for the republican debates..did I hear correctly - the debates will be held late in the primary season, and there will be fewer of them? -

calimary

(81,399 posts)
21. Welcometo DU, sloopdog50!
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:36 PM
Mar 2015

Glad you're here! I'm making that point as frequently as I can. He Wasn't Born On American Soil. I don't care how anyone slices or dices it. ted cruz was NOT born on American soil. Therefore he is NOT eligible to run for POTUS.

Now we can split all kinds of hairs here, buying into the "but... but... but..." stuff, how his mom was an American citizen so... but then the other side would have to shut up about Barack Obama, too, because HIS mom was an American citizen TOO. AND she was also white (to further complicate their argument!)! But Barack Obama, unlike ted cruz, WAS born on American soil because Hawaii was a state, and had become our 50th state in 1959, at least a couple of years before President Obama was even BORN. As of yet, I've not seen anything about Canada being annexed or made into a US territory or possession - even retroactively.

And with john mccain, same thing - HE TOO was born ON American soil, even in far distant Panama, because he was born IN the Canal Zone - which was a US territory or possession - I forget which. But US territories and possessions ARE considered US soil. Like the Virgin Islands and Guam and all that.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
24. But don't you see ...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:42 PM
Mar 2015

... our "National" Hockey League has teams from Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, Ottowa, Calgary, and Edmundton. If those cities are included in a "National" league, then they must be a part of our NATION, right? That means Canada IS America, and Ted was born in CanadAmerica, so he's American and he can be President - Q.E.D., right?

In a pig's eye!

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
29. If Canadians can be US presidents, would you really want THIS Canadian?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:10 PM
Mar 2015

I don't know about you, but if the US was so bereft of political talent we had to cross the northern frontier to find a president, we'd be a HELL of a lot better off with Jennifer Granholm.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
30. Will Jeb Bush call "shotgun"?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 02:18 AM
Mar 2015

If this were a horserace, the vet would have pronounced this horse brain dead before the race even got started.

 

wshaffer

(5 posts)
27. Conservative = nazis
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:53 PM
Mar 2015

I guess being a foreigner with nazis tendencies qualifies one to call himself a conservative.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
28. His campaign is off to a wonderful (for us) start.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:40 PM
Mar 2015

TedCruz.com directs to a site that says "SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA.
IMMIGRATION REFORM NOW!

TedCruzforAmerica.com redirects to the healthcare.gov site

This is going to be a fun campaign. I'm going to find who owns those sites, and donate money to them to hold onto the URLs.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
31. They held a pajama party on Sunday night for his announcement on Twitter.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 02:20 AM
Mar 2015

All 3 of them, and they were all wearing their white sheets.

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