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Omaha Steve

(99,741 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:02 PM Mar 2015

Biggest U.S. Automakers Said to Study New Lower-Pay Tier for UAW

Source: Bloomberg

by David Welch & Keith Naughton

Bloomberg) -- U.S. automakers General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co., heading into negotiations with the United Auto Workers union, are considering asking to create a new tier of lower-paid union workers in their U.S. factories, people familiar with the matter said.

This new pay rate for some lower-skilled jobs would help the car manufacturers lower labor costs as they compete with Asian and European rivals that typically pay less at non-union U.S. plants, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing private plans.

The UAW has said it wants raises for both its top-paid $28-an-hour assembly workers and the lower-paid second tier, whose wages top out at $19.28. The union, which abhors different wages to members doing the same job, is already considering pushing to eliminate the second tier, said a person familiar with the leadership’s thinking.

Asking for a lower-wage third tier could be a tough sell with union negotiators at a time of growing disparity in U.S. incomes. UAW leaders are already under pressure from their 80,000 auto-making members to eliminate the second tier or at least get them a raise. Paying less to union members -- even newly hired workers -- isn’t on the UAW’s agenda.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-23/biggest-u-s-automakers-said-to-study-new-lower-pay-tier-for-uaw

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Biggest U.S. Automakers Said to Study New Lower-Pay Tier for UAW (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2015 OP
Reminds me of the limbo.... wolfie001 Mar 2015 #1
Indeed SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #4
A good parasite, Newest Reality Mar 2015 #2
May Day turbinetree Mar 2015 #3
Aahhhh....The ole' "B Scale" gambit Populist_Prole Mar 2015 #5
there is no "competition," and this is bullshit. there's just the same few multinationals ND-Dem Mar 2015 #6
Germany pays their autoworkers much more, yet manufacture twice as many vehicles pampango Mar 2015 #7
I remember a few years ago GM was complaining about govt. subsidized healthcare abroad groundloop Mar 2015 #8
NAFTAlicious Octafish Mar 2015 #9

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. A good parasite,
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:13 PM
Mar 2015

knows that it should not completely kill its host, at least before reproducing.

If we get sucked dry, that parasite will die with us and I hope it knows that because, it seems that historically, this has happened before, much to the elite parasite's dismay.

We are in this together, and no matter how many baubles, bangles and beads the wealthy want, we will certainly perish together.

The endgame is the most important question and issue we have to face now, along with many other important ones, when it comes to the fate of humanity itself as a sentient species.

The endgame, if it is going to be decided by those who seem to own and control the most of what is, seems to be mostly delusion based on some form of technologically enabled future that does not need most of us and will provide a utopian dream of physical immortality at the cost of billions of lives in the end.

There is no other term to express my reaction to this potential other than FUCK THAT!

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
3. May Day
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:46 PM
Mar 2015

This issue needs to be laid at the feet of the U.S. Supreme Court, they have since 1981 when good old Ronnie got elected and ever since the worker in this country has taken it right on the chin, men and women and young adults with there rulings which were enacted to protect the worker from the 1900's through 1950's have been under attack.
This court has empowered the corporate oligarchy and the corruption of Congress to attack the Wagner Act with the Taft-Hartley Act.
And every time that a republican has been in charge at Labor and the NLRB the worker has suffered.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
5. Aahhhh....The ole' "B Scale" gambit
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 12:57 AM
Mar 2015

The race to the bottom isn't new: They establish a "B-scale" compensation rate to lower the bar as the "A-scale" employees are lessened in numbers through attrition. Very common in the transport industry.

Also, one wonders what sort of "consumers" these lower paid employees would be. Ohhh, that's right, I forgot: They will make less but it will be mitigated by cheaper goods imported from abroad. Nice timing of the TPP to bring this about.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
6. there is no "competition," and this is bullshit. there's just the same few multinationals
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 03:40 AM
Mar 2015

doing labor arbitrage all over the globe.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. Germany pays their autoworkers much more, yet manufacture twice as many vehicles
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:38 AM
Mar 2015

(per capita - 1/4 of US' population, 1/2 of our auto production). In 2014 US vehicle production was 11.6 million, while Germany's was 5.9 million. Paying workers less, which our employers always want to do, is not the answer. German automakers could show GM and Ford why that is true.

Oddly, the US is one of the few countries that manufactures more commercial vehicles (7,407,601 in 2014) than passenger cars (4,253,098). Canada is another (1.5 million vs 900,000).

Another fact, there is a strong positive correlation between the degree of unionization in a country and having a positive balance of trade (more exports than imports).



http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/03/05/myths-and-facts-unions-and-organized-labor/198343

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
8. I remember a few years ago GM was complaining about govt. subsidized healthcare abroad
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:32 AM
Mar 2015

I knew people who worked at GM.... their reasoning for not being able to afford raises during that contract negotiation was that they couldn't compete with European automakers who had the benefit of government health insurance. Did GM push for government health insurance 6 years ago when they had the chance to speak up???? I never heard a peep out of them, I don't believe anyone else did either. GM is yet again just looking for a bogeyman in order to prop up profits for the already rich owners.



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