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brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:33 AM Apr 2015

'Germanwings passenger video' is authentic, says French magazine

Source: The Guardian

A video said to show the panicked final seconds inside the cabin of Germanwings flight 4U925 before it crashed into a mountainside in the French Alps is authentic, the French magazine Paris Match has insisted.

Questions have been raised about the veracity of the video after a senior French police spokesman said the magazine’s story was false and the French state prosecutor said no video footage had yet featured in the inquiry evidence. The spokesman added that if any film were to exist it should immediately be handed to investigators.

Paris Match stood by its story, written in collaboration with the German newspaper Bild. Neither publication broadcast the footage but instead described the “totally blurred and chaotic” scenes.

...snip...

In a video interview on the Paris Match website, Frédéric Helbert, the senior investigative reporter who wrote the story, said he and the editorial team had watched the “chilling” and “moving” film dozens of times. He said it had been shot by someone at the back of the plane and did not identify passengers, who were all seated.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/01/germanwings-passenger-video-authentic-paris-match
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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
1. Thanks for that, Brooklynite. Good thing I checked...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:47 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

was about to post it myself.

The truth will out. But, whatever the ultimate findings, Lufthansa is in deep, deep doo-doo.

brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
2. My understanding is that German/European law limits civil lawsuit awards...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:50 AM
Apr 2015

...only about $30-$40,000 per person.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
4. Germanwings Crash Cause Means Recoveries ‘Uncapped’
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:57 AM
Apr 2015

<snip>

"The families of passengers on the doomed jet operated by Deutsche Lufthansa AG’s Germanwings will able to seek unlimited recoveries from the carrier because the co-pilot may have deliberately crashed the plane into the French Alps, lawyers said.

“The liability for the victims would be uncapped,” said George Leloudas, a lecturer at Swansea University College of Law who specializes in aviation law. “From the perspective of the airline it’s difficult. There are no real defenses that you can use. It is irrational. That is why you buy insurance.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-27/co-pilot-suicide-leaves-lufthansa-facing-unlimited-liability

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Excellent find, Scurrilous...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:08 PM
Apr 2015

Brings a whole new facet...

Oh, boy...no wonder that Germanwings CEO walked away from his staged PR act, masquerading as a press conference, in the south of France today.

'Your employee crashed a plane...why are you refusing to take questions??', shouted by a reporter as he walked out.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Yes, very true, they're generally much more judicious...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:00 PM
Apr 2015

none of those mutli-million $ awards here. Unless, willful intent to defame or harm can be proved.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
3. i think the magazine got punked pretty hard
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:52 AM
Apr 2015

the video is indeed likely 'authentic', in that it is a real video of a real flight, but it's likely not from the accident flight.

from the article it says the video contains:
- metallic bangs and rattling
- people crying out 'my god'!
- a sudden, sharp tilt of the camera to one side, followed by more screaming.

Here's a video of an American Airlines flight encountering severe turbulence (note the similarities?)


(warning: definitely a distressing video, but at least everyone made it!)

yeah some asshole likely just edited something off of youtube and conned the magazine...

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
16. Thank you for posting this. I will wait to see if this is it before jumping to
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:28 PM
Apr 2015

conclusions, being uppity and all like I am.

Thanks for this.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. Whether authentic or not, I don't want to watch it, ever. Disaster porn.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

Nothing to be learned by the public from it. We shouldn't be subjected to broadcast of "Faces of Death" material.

mopinko

(70,205 posts)
7. how would they have gotten this?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:06 PM
Apr 2015

i cant see how anyone would have gotten this unless they were out picking through the wreckage.

former9thward

(32,071 posts)
11. One of the investigators could have found a cell phone in the wreckage.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:10 PM
Apr 2015

And sold it to the magazines.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. The forensics team is scouring that mountain-side,
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

rock by rock, shred by shred looking for the innards of the FDR.

Did someone on the team manage to leak this out to the press?

All will be revealed...

mopinko

(70,205 posts)
15. yes they are, tho
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:15 PM
Apr 2015

the evidence is such that i find it easier and easier to believe the worst about my fellow humans.

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