Shocked!

....people on the right aren't happy.

Time to scrap it altogether and start over.

The idiotic rationale is "Christian bakers, florists and photographers would now be forced by the government to participate in a homosexual wedding".

If you were planning a same-sex wedding would you go to one of those crackpots anyway? They're hiding behind that rationale to get a law that would enable ANY business to discriminate.

They would NEVER say flat-out - "Oh, dear, I just can't because I don't believe in homosexuality..." because they KNOW they'd get in trouble for it. They KNOW it's anti-social and against the civil rights laws (which I'm sure they hate to death!) and the changing, evolving society we have happening here in America now. They KNOW it's not cool and not REALLY justified in this day and age, and they know they're on the losing end of history - and MAN-OH-MAN do they hate that! They hate that they can't make OUR side be the one on the losing side of history. I think deep-down, that fuels their anger more than anything. They want to live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. They want to live in a century that is receding farther and farther away, back into the past, day by day. They don't like all this change. They still want those old ways and that old thinking. It's where they're most comfortable. And they're loathe to give that up. So hey, maybe their last resort is to pin it on religion. Use their religion as a bludgeon. That's their last stand - maybe if they insist they have God on THEIR side, that'll be enough to turn the tide, and turn the clock back too.

What they'd say is "Oh, doggone it, our oven's on the blink - we just can't help you til we get it fixed..." Or "Oh my goodness, I'm sorry, we can't take any more cake orders - our cake baker just quit and we're gonna have to find a new one... "

They'd find some way to disguise it, and if anybody got (rightfully) suspicious, they'd be able to hide behind the loophole this "law" created to give them cover - for their WILLFUL DISCRIMINATION. I call it "Sneak-Speak."

These people are slippery. And shrewd. And sneaky. And they have a LOT of help and support and encouragement in their thinking and in their efforts. And they have TONS of validation from Pox Noise, hate radio, and the whole religious-extremist infrastructure that's been at this for YEARS.

Put a sign in your shop that says "We support traditional marriage" or whatever the latest bumpersticker the fundies have. The rest of us are going to get the idea without you having to open your mouth. Can't imagine anyone would trust a baker with such a sign to make them a wedding cake. Be like a Klan Rally using an AA Caterer.

then talked about is to only offer wedding services to churches on a contractual basis. "We don't do wedding services to the general public. We only do them for members of the Blah Blah church on Main st". All other business would be available to the general public.
That would solve the discrimination issue entirely. "We're not discriminating against you. I can bake you a birthday cake. But if I bake you a wedding cake, I'll be in violation of my contract with Blah Blah on Main St. You understand, right? Have a great day."

who thought this kind of bill was needed to protect his poor oppressed tongue speaking brethren from the evil hordes of atheists and Muslims.

He thought it was perfectly sensible until I mentioned that any local Muslim, like the guy that owns the Dunkin' down the road, could use it to prevent any infidel, like said neighborhood dipshit and his dipshit brethren, from coming into the store.

These people are so short sighted and stupid that their antics never cease to amaze me.

I'm sorry! You CANNOT hide behind some law that allows you and your religious beliefs the "freedom" to discriminate. It just doesn't work that way in this country. Move to Tehran then. You'll love THAT religious-dictated society!

No Pastors, no Priests, no Chaplains, no Mullahs, no Rabbis, no Pretenders may Pass their laws in a secular state.

In return the secular State will leave you alone to practise your beliefs in private and give you the bonus of tax exempt status...that WAS always the bargain, remember?

Pass a general non-discrimation law as the Supreme Law of Indiana and then the Fundies can knock themselves out with trying to pass all the unconstitutional laws they want.

I think I'll answer this myself. "Because they are actually charlatans."

Paul was a fundamentalist who wanted to use the Church to control the people. Jesus was a liberal who wanted to free the people from religious oppression.

Go figure.


I think that's how Paul even got included in the Bible when it was assembled in 300AD. I've been reading some of the Gnostic Gospels written about Jesus and his thoughs on religon seem even more progressive than what we are lead to believe from the bible. My guess is by 300AD the Churches were getting well established and didn't want to lose their ability to control people or their ability to make money off of those people. Paul's writings helped for the Church as an organized structure to make that work.

I think if Paul's writing was not in the bible but it was just about Jesus's message, religion might look very different today. But then again you also had Muslim which was a completely different religion pretty much coming from the same God (let's face it - Christians, Jews and Islam all start from Abraham) who knows how it would have turned out.

Why then do they often invoke Jesus' name when much of what they do is counter to what he taught?

Were they lying then or are they lying now? Can't have it both ways, knuckleheads.

What the heck is a "Christian baker," anyway? Someone who bakes Christians?

or from their friends, or their friends' friends, etc. Word gets around.

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It's the intelligent and sane citizens of all stripes that will boycott the bastards too. I know I would if I lived there.

I am quite straight (but not narrow) and would not help support a bigot. If I knew they were discriminating, they wouldn't get my money.

it serves them right! Seriously, if you found out a bakery was hateful to some customers would you go? I certainlywouldn't. Let them go out of business, than they will learn a valuable lesson that hatred is not tolerated if you are trying to sell your products.

"Christian bakers, florists and photographers would now be forced by the government to participate in a homosexual wedding..."

these sharia religious protection laws are actually anti gay laws?
And all the quote, Christian people, unquote that were pushing them were lying their asses off?