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Omaha Steve

(99,707 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:45 PM Apr 2015

Paul mixes up New Hampshire history in invoking state motto

Source: AP-Excite

By HOLLY RAMER

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Here's the Stark truth: Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul on Wednesday mixed up the origins of New Hampshire's "Live Free or Die" motto.

Paul opened his first New Hampshire speech as a declared Republican presidential candidate in Milford, telling a crowd that "when the founders of New Hampshire came up with the motto 'Live Free or Die', they didn't leave a lot of wiggle room."

But that phrase didn't become the state motto until 1945, and it wasn't a state founder who came up with it.

Gen. John Stark included the phrase in a letter to fellow Revolutionary War veterans who had invited him to a reunion in 1809 — 130 years after New Hampshire became a separate British colony. Declining the invitation due to poor health, his letter included a toast: "Live Free Or Die; Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils."

FULL story at link.



Republican Presidential candidate, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., arrives for a Town Hall, Wednesday, April 8, 2015, in Milford, N.H. Paul, a newly declared Republican presidential candidate, is dodging a central question about abortion: What exceptions, if any, should be made if the procedure were to be banned? In an interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday, Paul would not say where, in his view, a pregnant woman{2019}s rights begin and those of the fetus end.(AP Photo/Jim Cole)

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150408/us--gop-2016-paul-new_hampshire_motto-830962e639.html

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Brother Buzz

(36,461 posts)
3. Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and Rand Paul all learned history from the same source...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:03 PM
Apr 2015

Watching Disney® movies.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
4. When you open up a republican history book its only got one page
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:05 PM
Apr 2015

and on that page it says "make it up as you go along".

BumRushDaShow

(129,432 posts)
6. He forgot the part that about how
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015

"they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells", per you know who, and that NH was "the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord", per a different you know who.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
7. Not a good start for Campaign Rand Paul Streamroller...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:16 PM
Apr 2015

First his campaign announcement YouTube Video gets pulled over Music Copyright issues:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/04/rand-pauls-announcement-video-pulled-over-copyright-issues

Then this --- can't get when the State Motto became the State Motto, correct. Someone needs a Copyright Research Analyst and Historian right away. However, one would think if this was a serious campaign, these vital (to a guy caught more than once with his hands in the plagiarism jar) staff members would have already been brought on board.

Either way, this should be fun watching Manchurian Candidate, Rand Paul's Campaign.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. A little media correction. Dodging the abortion issue as stated, no, he hasn't:
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:20 PM
Apr 2015
Sen. Rand Paul introduces ‘fetal personhood’ bill to outlaw abortion

By Eric W. Dolan - March 17, 2013

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) on Friday introduced so-called “fetal personhood” legislation that would completely outlaw abortion in the United States.


The Life at Conception Act would declare that human life began at conception, providing fertilized eggs with the same legal status as born persons.


“The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known – that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection from that point forward,” Paul said in a statement. “The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress.”


In a fundraising video for the National Pro-Life Alliance last year, the Republican senator explained that the bill would outlaw abortion without contradicting the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision. Citing the ruling, Paul claimed Congress had the power to define when human life began under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/17/sen-rand-paul-introduces-fetal-personhood-bill-to-outlaw-abortion/


to DonViego:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251294656

There is NO exception there, And this stance has criminalized every aspect of choice for women and some are dying or serving prison sentences now. They don't call him and his fans the Pauliban for nothing. But some women support him:



In for a penny, in for a pound. No getting around it.

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
9. I always thought it was a paraphrase of Patrick Henry
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:24 PM
Apr 2015

Speaking of people not from new hampshire. (Also, prisoners stamp the "live free or die" license plates iirc.)

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
11. They asked him where a woman's rights begin?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:44 PM
Apr 2015

Let me guess his answer: "Where her husband says her rights begin."

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
12. Clearly he's not an American.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:42 PM
Apr 2015

And like Donald Trump, his hair is fake, he's not a billionaire, and he is impotent.

Sue me, The Donald.

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