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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:28 PM Apr 2015

Iraqi Officer Under Saddam Masterminded The Rise Of ISIS, Reports Spiegel

Source: Huffington Post and Reuters

A former intelligence officer for the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was the mastermind behind Islamic State's takeover of northern Syria, according to a report by Der Spiegel that is based on documents uncovered by the German magazine.
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The documents were the work of a man identified by the magazine as Samir Abd Muhammad al-Khlifawi, a former colonel in the intelligence service of Saddam Hussein's air defense force, who went by the pseudonym Haji Bakr.
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"It was not a manifesto of faith, but a technically precise plan for an 'Islamic Intelligence State' -- a caliphate run by an organization that resembled East Germany's notorious Stasi domestic intelligence agency."

The story describes Bakr as being "bitter and unemployed" after U.S. authorities in Iraq disbanded the army by decree in 2003. Between 2006 to 2008 he was reportedly in U.S. detention facilities, including Abu Ghraib prison.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/19/isis-saddam-spiegel_n_7095764.html



ISIL is nothing more than a textbook example of blowback from the invasion of Iraq.
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Iraqi Officer Under Saddam Masterminded The Rise Of ISIS, Reports Spiegel (Original Post) KeepItReal Apr 2015 OP
Cheney and Rummy's deadenders must be zombies TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #1
I still cannot fathom that the architects of Iraq knew full well what they were doing, that it would libdem4life Apr 2015 #2
The Stupid People™ ... GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #3
These are the crooks. The unwashed masses comprise most of the other. libdem4life Apr 2015 #5
These criminals KNOW they screwed up "big time". oasis Apr 2015 #11
Great truth heaven05 Apr 2015 #4
Indeed. libdem4life Apr 2015 #6
I call BullShit BadGimp Apr 2015 #7
Psyops to counter what thinking? KeepItReal Apr 2015 #12
You have to be kind of a moron to want to emulate the E. German police state. bemildred Apr 2015 #8
A link to the actual article at Spiegel (International) web site DLnyc Apr 2015 #9
KnR. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #10
BLOODY MESS!!! gembaby1 Apr 2015 #13
Welcome to DU, gembaby1! KeepItReal Apr 2015 #14
If it's just an Iraqi thing, how are they able to lure so many westerners? Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #15

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Cheney and Rummy's deadenders must be zombies
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:38 PM
Apr 2015

Can't keep a good Baathist down, they just rise out of the grave. The gift of the bushes just keeps on getting better.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. I still cannot fathom that the architects of Iraq knew full well what they were doing, that it would
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:56 PM
Apr 2015

grow so they'd always have a market for their arms dealers...both sides. They knew. These are not dumb people. They get rich off, shall we say, an uninformed populace.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. Great truth
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 05:06 PM
Apr 2015

comes to small places. "Truth is incontrovertible: malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is".....Winston Churchill.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
8. You have to be kind of a moron to want to emulate the E. German police state.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:32 AM
Apr 2015

I am skeptical, based on the results he has produced, that this guy is a moron, but it's possible I suppose.

But yes, just a day or so ago I was thinking how all of this mess in the Middle East goes back to Bremer's disbanding of the Iraqi state. You can argue that up until then it might have still been possible to govern Iraq, after that there was nothing to govern it with. And you can argue that had we managed to keep a functional government in Iraq, none of the rest of this shit would have happened, no power vacuum, some competely different outcome.

gembaby1

(253 posts)
13. BLOODY MESS!!!
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:14 PM
Apr 2015

This is what happens when you invade a country like Iraq ....chaos!
Well I guess it makes sense now that one of disbanded ba'athists bring all his experience and knowledge of being in Saddam's government to ISIS. They want their power back and they're willing to go along with Sunni fundamentalists to do it. Without them ISIS couldn't fight their way out of a brown paper bag!

They want to rid of anyone who doesn't agree with them but especially the Shias and Iran is on top of the list of places for them to destroy. They're going to be so disappointed when the U.S. Does it for them.

I'm a Canadian and this is my first time on DD. I just wanted to say that I was soooooo proud of the United States when Obama managed to get a framework for a deal pertaining to Iran's nuclear program. I'm just now so depressed with what those disgusting Rupublicans are doing now. I can't believe how fucking myopic they are. Don't they realize this not just about them. So many countries are pissed off because they put their fair share of work into this deal

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. If it's just an Iraqi thing, how are they able to lure so many westerners?
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:38 PM
Apr 2015

Because contrary to popular belief, the bulk of Islamic State forces and leadership aren't all people who had their homes and families blown away by an airstrike, or were imprisoned/tortured by U.S. forces...

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