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Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:00 PM Apr 2015

Michael Brown's parents file civil lawsuit in Ferguson police shooting

Source: AP

CLAYTON, Mo. — The parents of Michael Brown filed a wrongful-death lawsuit Thursday against the city of Ferguson over the fatal shooting of their son by a white police officer, a confrontation that sparked a national protest movement.

Attorneys for Brown's parents, Lesley McSpadden and Michael Brown Sr., filed the complaint at the St. Louis County Courthouse and called a news conference to announce the case, which had been expected for months.

Messages seeking comment from Ferguson Mayor James Knowles III, city spokesman Jeff Small and an attorney for Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Brown, were not immediately returned.

(snip)

Civil cases generally require a lower standard of proof than criminal cases. Jurors must find a preponderance of evidence, not proof beyond a reasonable doubt needed to convict in a criminal trial.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2015/04/michael_browns_parents_file_ci.html



Michael Brown shooting: why civil lawsuit may be an important step
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2015/0423/Michael-Brown-shooting-why-civil-lawsuit-may-be-an-important-step
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Michael Brown's parents file civil lawsuit in Ferguson police shooting (Original Post) Electric Monk Apr 2015 OP
Gonna be interesting to see who ends up on a jury. n/t dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #1
Eric Holder sided with Darren Wilson XemaSab Apr 2015 #2
No he didn't. BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #4
Yes he did. Holder's hands were not tied Trajano Apr 2015 #5
They absolutely were. It has to do with the burden of proof BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #7
The witnesses who lied is one reason why DOJ sided with Wilson Trajano Apr 2015 #8
Obviously knowledge of Civics is lacking on DU BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #11
you said nothing about lying witness Trajano Apr 2015 #12
Did you read anything that I posted? BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #13
uh uh Mr Wilson...gonna have to testify in public after all nt msongs Apr 2015 #3
Not if he is named as a defendant. ncjustice80 Apr 2015 #6
He may choose to testify in his own defense, but I doubt it. Calista241 Apr 2015 #9
I wondered if that was part of why he got married XemaSab Apr 2015 #10

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
2. Eric Holder sided with Darren Wilson
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:12 PM
Apr 2015

Going to be interesting what the parents put out there to support their side.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
4. No he didn't.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 05:40 AM
Apr 2015

That's bullshit. "Violations of civil rights" laws are weak thanks to the white supremacists who run Congress, which ties the DOJ's hands by design. "Wrongful Death" civil suits are easier to pursue.

 

Trajano

(53 posts)
5. Yes he did. Holder's hands were not tied
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 06:21 AM
Apr 2015

Wilson acted in self defense or he didn't, and the DOJ found he did. That has nothing to do with Congress.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
7. They absolutely were. It has to do with the burden of proof
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 08:34 AM
Apr 2015

required by the prosecutors based on the current law as written. I.e., the "high bar", in essence, the intent as a (racial) hate crime (e.g., if Wilson had been a KKK member, that would have helped in this instance). And you also had the unfortunate situation of witness testimony that ended up all over the fucking place (i.e., some witnesses who claimed to be there and weren't, etc.)... so the case was doomed from the start.

 

Trajano

(53 posts)
8. The witnesses who lied is one reason why DOJ sided with Wilson
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 08:46 AM
Apr 2015

What do lying witnesses have to do with Congress?

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
11. Obviously knowledge of Civics is lacking on DU
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 12:16 PM
Apr 2015


When one believes that Congress has nothing to do with laws that the Executive Branch is tasked to carry out, then that is a good sign of a need for a civics refresher.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
13. Did you read anything that I posted?
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 05:42 PM
Apr 2015
Start at the beginning and then read through to the end. It is the "current law" that is at fault, and the "lying witnesses" were just icing on Wilson's cake.

ncjustice80

(948 posts)
6. Not if he is named as a defendant.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 08:28 AM
Apr 2015

They would have to drop him from the suit to compel him to testify.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
9. He may choose to testify in his own defense, but I doubt it.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:00 AM
Apr 2015

And I don't see how the Browns can overcome the physical evidence to prove this case.

I just don't want them to owe money to Darren Wilson at the conclusion of this trial, which they are far more likely to lose than Wilson.

I suspect Wilson has already put most of his assets and property beyond the reach of a lawsuit just in case he were to lose.

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