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Purveyor

(29,876 posts) Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:06 AM Apr 2015

One U.S. Navy Seal Dies, One Critical In Virginia Pool Training

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - One U.S. Navy Seal died and another was critically injured on Friday while training in a pool at a Virginia military base, a Navy spokesman said.

The two members of the Navy's elite sea, air, land teams were found at the bottom of the pool by another service member at about 3 p.m. local time at Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek-Fort Story, said Navy spokesman Lieutenant David Lloyd.

"They were working out in the pool," Lloyd said. "They were swimming. It was not dive training."

The deaths at the base in Virginia Beach is under investigation, he said.

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One U.S. Navy Seal Dies, One Critical In Virginia Pool Training (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2015 OP

something smells wordpix Apr 2015 #1

Sounds like shallow water blackout Ex Lurker Apr 2015 #2

Part of shallow water blackout Thor_MN Apr 2015 #4

I was once knocked out cold by a man I was trying to rescue from drowning. He panicked, and but for msanthrope Apr 2015 #3

There was a diving training incident in Maryland two years ago. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2015 #5

Sounds like shallow water blackout.... Aviation Pro Apr 2015 #6

Tragic Situation But These Are Trained Navy Seals, I Find This Suspicious... Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #7

wordpix

(18,652 posts)

1. something smells

Reply to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:16 AM

Apr 2015

Navy spokesman Lloyd first says they were training, then says they were working out. One is dead and one critical. Some kind of foul play I fear.

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)

2. Sounds like shallow water blackout

Reply to wordpix (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:56 AM

Apr 2015

CO2 builds up in the bloodstream, you lose consciousness, and you drown. Can happen to anyone, even expert swimmers.. That's why you should never practice breath-hold swimming, or really any kind of swimming, without somebody watching you, no matter how advanced you are.

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)

4. Part of shallow water blackout

Reply to Ex Lurker (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 09:15 AM

Apr 2015

is that as you come to the surface, your lungs expand back to normal after being squeezed by water pressure. As the lungs expand, they will actually serve to pull oxygen from the blood, resulting in rapid loss of consciousness. Trying to swim underwater as long as you can at depths of about 6 feet or more can be dangerous.

Shallow water blackout is a big concern in Free diving, trying to go as deep as one can on one breath.

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)

3. I was once knocked out cold by a man I was trying to rescue from drowning. He panicked, and but for

Reply to wordpix (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 06:22 AM

Apr 2015

the fact that there were other lifeguards around, I would have drowned.

It's not difficult to imagine a similar situation happening here.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)

5. There was a diving training incident in Maryland two years ago.

Reply to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:30 PM

Apr 2015

The circumstances were dissimilar. The one in Maryland happened at a much greater depth.

Master diver found negligent in incident that killed two

By Dianna Cahn
The Virginian-Pilot
© January 18, 2014

The master diver of the Navy company that lost two men in a training dive last February negligently failed to ensure that proper safety procedures were adhered to, a Navy jury found Friday.

The four-man jury - two SEALs, one Explosive Ordnance Disposal technician and one intelligence specialist - spent two hours deliberating before they found Senior Chief Petty Officer James Burger guilty Friday evening of a single charge of negligent dereliction of duty.

Burger was his company's master diver at Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 when two sailors drowned during a training dive on Feb. 26.

The dive at the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland was deep: down to 150 feet, in cold water with little visibility and with wire and debris at the bottom of the pond.

Aviation Pro

(12,181 posts)

6. Sounds like shallow water blackout....

Reply to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:50 PM

Apr 2015

...fair winds, warriors.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)

7. Tragic Situation But These Are Trained Navy Seals, I Find This Suspicious...

Reply to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:19 PM

Apr 2015

First of all I could understand the theory of shallow water blackout, perhaps a personal contest to see who could stay under longer, but my suspicions arise at the fact both of the Seals would have suffered from the same thing, I'm no expert, the Seals were though, but I would imagine that shallow water blackout is if not rare, uncommon at the least.

So for two trained Navy Seals to fall victim to the exact same tragic event seems very odd to me.

Then factoring in the fact that in a seperate incident 2 Navy Seals died last February at a Naval Training facility in Maryland under very similar circumstances raises a bit of suspicion on my part.

Regardless of the circumstances I send my condolences to the family of the deceased & unequivocally thank him & his family for serving our country.

To the Navy Seal in critical condition, my thoughts & prayers go out to him in hope that this brave young man will make a full & speedy recovery. Additionally, my thoughts & prayers are with the family...

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