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alp227

(32,030 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 09:57 PM Apr 2015

Corinthian Colleges to shut down all 28 remaining campuses

Source: AP

SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) — Corinthian Colleges will shut down all of its remaining 28 ground campuses, displacing about 16,000 students, less than two weeks after the U.S. Department of Education announced it was fining the for-profit institution $30 million for misrepresentation.

In a statement Sunday, the Santa Ana, California-based company said it was working with other schools to help students continue their education. The closures include Heald College campuses in California, Hawaii and Oregon, as well as Everest and WyoTech schools in California, Arizona and New York.

Corinthian was one of the country's largest for-profit educational institutions. It collapsed last summer amid a cash shortage and fraud allegations.

The Education Department contends that Corinthian failed to comply with requests to address allegations of falsifying job placement data and altering grades and attendance records. It agreed to sell or close its campuses under pressure from the department.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b17ba2a434944f37ab1f2bb6151ea3ca/corinthian-colleges-shut-down-all-28-remaining-campuses

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eggplant

(3,911 posts)
1. Good.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 10:12 PM
Apr 2015

These places just suck money out of the naïve, as well as our tax dollars (in the form of Pell grants).

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
6. community colleges don't run ads during daytime trash talk shows
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:46 AM
Apr 2015

they marketed to the naive, like "rent to own" shops

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
10. Under duress, I agreed to teach at our local ITT Tech for a semester.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:11 PM
Apr 2015

(I had been laid off and hadn't found another real job yet.)

It is exactly what the most cynical of us imagine. "Instructors" were told to do everything needed to keep students enrolled until they were passed the "give back" date for Pell grants. If the student drops out too quickly, the feds demand the money back. So the instructors had to essentially baby-sit these kids to get them to show up. I refused, but I was the anomaly.

The only thing that made it ok was knowing that I could quit any time I wanted, because my unemployment from my previous job was almost exactly what I was getting paid by ITT. I was working the job to avoid a hole in my resume, and to get me out of the house, not for the money.

PSPS

(13,601 posts)
2. "It agreed to sell or close its campuses"
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

There is never any jail for these white-collar criminals, of course. I presume some of this profit was laundered back as bribes "campaign contributions" to congress which shields them from prosecution.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
3. finally
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:16 AM
Apr 2015

All those for profit colleges should be run out of business. All they do is prey on people who are in less than ideal financial situations and make them rack up loans only to find out they cant find a job afterwards. The diploma these colleges offer are not worth the paper they are printed on.

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
8. although many "real" colleges give out degrees that aren't worth the paper they're printed on
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

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and have overpaid administrators and coaches, still an english or philosophy degree given by a "real" college is probably worth more than any degree given out by these overpriced diploma mills that advertise during Jerry Springer, "real" colleges use their sports teams as marketing if they don't have an excellent reputation like an Ivy League institution

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
16. Not all for profit schools are terrible
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:30 AM
Apr 2015

Schools like Corinthian, ITT, etc. (the especially the ones that advertise on daytime TV) do prey on people. I agree with you on that. I disagree that you can lump all for profit colleges in one pot. Of my three degrees, one was at a for profit school (one was at a public university and the other at a Catholic university that assume is for non-profit).

I live outside the US so I don't see commercials on American TV anymore. But when I go home and happen to see one of these types of commercials it almost makes me feel dirty.

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mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
9. That's the real question,
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:56 AM
Apr 2015

Along with-

Why " is never any jail for these white-collar criminals"?

and why
"some of this profit ... laundered back as bribes 'campaign contributions' to congress ... shields them from prosecution."

Aristus

(66,386 posts)
11. I attended a Corinthian College for training as a Medical Assistant.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:10 PM
Apr 2015

That was my first step in my path to becoming a Physician Assistant. I needed to get clinical, hands-on experience. Their training protocol was not, shall I say, rigorous. There was a lot of bs in the program. Through a combination of native talent and keeping my ears open, I learned enough to make a good start as an MA. I learned a great deal more on-the-job. I think I was a pretty good MA. I got accepted to the PA School at the University of Washington, which has very rigorous standards for training.

If I had to do it again, I would have explored attending a community college MA program. I'm glad to hear Corinthian is going down. Their training program in general was less than ideal...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. It's nice to hear from someone who had an actual experience at the school
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 07:26 AM
Apr 2015

Sometimes beyond the news reports it's hard to know what the place was like. I'm glad you were able to graduate and find a career and I feel bad for those who got screwed.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. Restitution of all profits toward debt clearance
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:14 PM
Apr 2015

These people stole money from the government and hopeful young people through their scams. They should be in federal prison. Barring that, they should make their victims whole.

Stainless

(718 posts)
13. For Profit College degrees are worthless
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:14 PM
Apr 2015

There is a reason these businesses are known as "failure factories".

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
14. they're paying for the marketing, not the degree
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:28 PM
Apr 2015

since adtime is cheap during shows like Maury, that probably meant more cash for their CEO

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