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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:34 PM Apr 2015

George W. Bush Bashes Obama on Middle East

Source: Bloomberg

Apr 26, 2015 9:21 PM EDT
By Josh Rogin

In a closed-door meeting with Jewish Donors Saturday night, former President George W. Bush delivered his harshest public criticisms to date against his successor on foreign policy, saying that President Barack Obama is being naïve about Iran and the pending nuclear deal and losing the war against the Islamic State.

One attendee at the Republican Jewish Coalition session, held at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas with owner Sheldon Adelson in attendance, transcribed large portions of Bush’s remarks. The former president, who rarely ever criticizes Obama in public, at first remarked that the idea of re-entering the political arena was something he didn’t want to do. He then proceeded to explain why Obama, in his view, was placing the U.S. in "retreat" around the world. He also said Obama was misreading Iran’s intentions while relaxing sanctions on Tehran too easily.

According to the attendee's transcription, Bush noted that Iran has a new president, Hassan Rouhani. “He's smooth," Bush said. "And you’ve got to ask yourself, is there a new policy or did they just change the spokesman?”

Bush said that Obama’s plan to lift sanctions on Iran with a promise that they could snap back in place at any time was not plausible. He also said the deal would be bad for American national security in the long term: “You think the Middle East is chaotic now? Imagine what it looks like for our grandchildren. That’s how Americans should view the deal.”

Bush then went into a detailed criticismn...

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George W. Bush Bashes Obama on Middle East (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2015 OP
Naive, Bush was very Naive on Iraq and Iran, he made a bloody mess in the ME Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #1
He wasn't naive, he was following PNAC's marching orders nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #10
He was not naive. He was - and is - a dishonest warmongering rury Apr 2015 #13
Bush is just PISSED OFF... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2015 #27
Yeah the only thing he was competent at was being incompetent. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #56
That is the best summary of his presidency that I have ever read. potone Apr 2015 #60
Yeah, let's listen to the dipshit whose war for fake WMDs destabilized the entire region Adenoid_Hynkel Apr 2015 #2
Chimpy still works for me. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #30
Jane Goodall might beg to differ. merrily Apr 2015 #35
haha, my apologies to Jane. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #39
Who gives a flying fuck what this war criminal thinks? truthisfreedom Apr 2015 #3
RWnutjobs like Sheldon Adelson give the FF wordpix Apr 2015 #67
I truly loathe very few people. Bush - and Cheney - are on that select list. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2015 #4
You had your chance and you screwed everything up 4now Apr 2015 #5
Fuck off George. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #6
I want to scream profanities that would get me banned from DU. AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #7
George Fucking Bush sheshe2 Apr 2015 #8
This is from The Onion right? hibbing Apr 2015 #9
If he had a soul, he'd be too anguished to speak. merrily Apr 2015 #34
Bush drug us into the biggest quagmire since Vietnam libodem Apr 2015 #11
"Bush" and "drug" two words that go together well like "horse" and "carriage". gordianot Apr 2015 #29
True libodem Apr 2015 #49
With George it is kind of a Chicken or egg question. gordianot Apr 2015 #53
my first thought when I read it, too wordpix Apr 2015 #66
Um...George? Still In Wisconsin Apr 2015 #12
Diplomacy does tend to put a kink MoreGOPoop Apr 2015 #14
Fuck off you god damn, motherfucking, slimey piece of rat shit. geomon666 Apr 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #16
This from the man who did not know the differnce between Shia and Sunni before he ... Botany Apr 2015 #17
look, I've always said that our Mideastern pot-stirring has somehow gotten worse since '09 MisterP Apr 2015 #18
the unmitigated gall ! trusty elf Apr 2015 #19
........ trusty elf Apr 2015 #20
.... trusty elf Apr 2015 #21
.... trusty elf Apr 2015 #22
............. trusty elf Apr 2015 #23
Cheney probably prepared his remarks for him. Voice for Peace Apr 2015 #24
Go back to your stained underwear and your booze diet you war pig mass murderer. NBachers Apr 2015 #25
Dubya is trying to rehabilitate the family name YoungDemCA Apr 2015 #26
Why is anyone listening to this idiot? SunSeeker Apr 2015 #28
they're deciding whether to give money to Jeb Enrique Apr 2015 #37
Jeb is already giving bj's to Sheldon. SunSeeker Apr 2015 #41
wait a minute - I thought Sheldon was Cruz' billionaire wordpix Apr 2015 #68
Apparently Sheldon is still trying to decide who has the prettiest mouth. SunSeeker Apr 2015 #69
I suspect someone wrote the script he is reading INdemo Apr 2015 #31
This Epic Failure has the nerve to criticise President Obama for trying to clean up his mess? KeepItReal Apr 2015 #32
Bush calling someone else naive about the Middle East? merrily Apr 2015 #33
Who let the idiot son out into public again? Optical.Catalyst Apr 2015 #36
It's headlines like this that will put The Onion out of business. Scuba Apr 2015 #38
"misreading" douggg Apr 2015 #40
Stupid war criminal invaded the wrong country. GOLGO 13 Apr 2015 #42
Not a good time for you to start talking, Dubya. Arkana Apr 2015 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #44
This reeks of bullshit. nt bemildred Apr 2015 #45
There is no higher praise nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #46
Clueless George should STFU about foreign policy. City Lights Apr 2015 #47
I loath that man Botany Apr 2015 #48
GWB -- worst President and Commander-in-Chief ever! nt NCjack Apr 2015 #50
Obama had it right at the WH Corresponsents' Dinner DFW Apr 2015 #51
Go to Hell, Liar... KansDem Apr 2015 #52
i love when progressives think they've made friends with repugs. repugs have no loyalty samsingh Apr 2015 #54
Keep talking chimpy! tavernier Apr 2015 #55
he wears an apron when he paints olddots Apr 2015 #57
"The right way to do it is to go to war with a fella you don't like by pretending he has WMDs." tclambert Apr 2015 #58
the worst he could say is Obama is following in his footsteps but yurbud Apr 2015 #59
More absurdity realFedUp Apr 2015 #61
Republican turbinetree Apr 2015 #62
Will your brother break your record for war crimes? Dawson Leery Apr 2015 #63
servicemen committing suicides a sad legacy polynomial Apr 2015 #64
* is qualified to bash O b/c * was such a great commander-in-chief wordpix Apr 2015 #65

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
27. Bush is just PISSED OFF...
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:26 AM
Apr 2015

Because President Obama said Dick Cheney was the worst "President" in his lifetime at the WHCD.

potone

(1,701 posts)
60. That is the best summary of his presidency that I have ever read.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:57 PM
Apr 2015

It is truly mind-boggling how much damage he managed to do. We are still digging out from it.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
2. Yeah, let's listen to the dipshit whose war for fake WMDs destabilized the entire region
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:37 PM
Apr 2015

setting things up for Islamic State

George Dubya Boosh should be known as the Father of ISIS.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
67. RWnutjobs like Sheldon Adelson give the FF
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:40 PM
Apr 2015

we need to prove their billion$ irrelevant this coming election

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
4. I truly loathe very few people. Bush - and Cheney - are on that select list.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:38 PM
Apr 2015

The man's never uttered anything remotely useful. He should just crawl back into his bathtub and paint his toes again.

Then again, his utter uselessness did drive me to find DU in 2004 - so I can "thank" him for that at least!

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
7. I want to scream profanities that would get me banned from DU.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:46 PM
Apr 2015

This 'man' makes my blood turn white hot.

He ruined everything. Fuck him.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
8. George Fucking Bush
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:49 PM
Apr 2015

Can shut his stupid mouth. How dare he. That man took us to two wars, paid it with a credit card and brought America to her knees. He nearly destroyed us financially. WHO THE HELL EVEN LISTENS TO HIM?

libodem

(19,288 posts)
11. Bush drug us into the biggest quagmire since Vietnam
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:04 AM
Apr 2015

Iraq was Bush's personal Vietnam. He is such a narcissist he's proud of it. Dimson indeed.

gordianot

(15,240 posts)
29. "Bush" and "drug" two words that go together well like "horse" and "carriage".
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:59 AM
Apr 2015

Drug is a word that has been with George the lesser for a long time.

gordianot

(15,240 posts)
53. With George it is kind of a Chicken or egg question.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:18 AM
Apr 2015

Which came first the drugs or the alcohol? I would guess he binged on both and today gets a prescription probably without access to the medicine bottle.

MoreGOPoop

(417 posts)
14. Diplomacy does tend to put a kink
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:21 AM
Apr 2015

in the War Machine, especially for Double-Dippers. Only a Fascist War Pig would curse Peace.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
15. Fuck off you god damn, motherfucking, slimey piece of rat shit.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:34 AM
Apr 2015

You fucking Nazi! You destroyed the Middle East. It's completely unstable because of you and your rancid fucking family. The only American trying to do anything actually fucking helpful in the region is Obama and this fucking Bush ghoul has the fucking temerity to criticize him? This walking shit pile belongs in a gulag.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Botany

(70,516 posts)
17. This from the man who did not know the differnce between Shia and Sunni before he ...
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:48 AM
Apr 2015

.... started Dick Cheney's war for oil and money?

BTW w's not talking to N. Korea allowed them to make some A-bombs and some
ICBMs and not talking to Iran put them from having no nuclear weapons programs
to having 20,000 centrifuges in order to make bomb grade uranium

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
18. look, I've always said that our Mideastern pot-stirring has somehow gotten worse since '09
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:52 AM
Apr 2015

but I never said Obama was the one who literally pooped the bed: with * I can't be sure

if I liked depraved Faulknerian idiot manchildren whose friends always told them they were literally God I'd be working for Cruz '16

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
24. Cheney probably prepared his remarks for him.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:42 AM
Apr 2015

I doubt if he would have thought all that stuff up by himself.

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
25. Go back to your stained underwear and your booze diet you war pig mass murderer.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:45 AM
Apr 2015

There is a hollow place inside George Bush where the wails of the screaming dead shred his bloody soul. The time will come when he can no longer drown them out. They have him for eternity. I will not be pretty.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
26. Dubya is trying to rehabilitate the family name
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:47 AM
Apr 2015

By bashing Obama, so as to distract from the substance of his brother's nefarious plans for America after 2016.

A lot of people have already forgotten his own failed foreign policy - a foreign policy that other Republicans (his brother among them) subscribe to.

I hope this strategy doesn't work, but American voters' attention spans are notoriously short.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
37. they're deciding whether to give money to Jeb
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:22 AM
Apr 2015

or more accurately, "he" is deciding.

One attendee at the Republican Jewish Coalition session, held at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas with owner Sheldon Adelson in attendance, transcribed large portions of Bush’s remarks.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
41. Jeb is already giving bj's to Sheldon.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:31 AM
Apr 2015

I guess his jaw must be getting tired so he's sending in Shrub.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
68. wait a minute - I thought Sheldon was Cruz' billionaire
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:43 PM
Apr 2015

you mean he's doing Jebbie on the side????

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
31. I suspect someone wrote the script he is reading
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:11 AM
Apr 2015

because his IQ would not allow him to use these structured sentences.
Karl Rove maybe wrote the script ?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. Bush calling someone else naive about the Middle East?
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:53 AM
Apr 2015

No matter what else you might want to say about Dimson, he is not chutzpah deficient, bless his heart.

douggg

(239 posts)
40. "misreading"
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:03 AM
Apr 2015

says the worst President in our country's history - Bush, whose incompetence led us into 9-11.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
42. Stupid war criminal invaded the wrong country.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:40 AM
Apr 2015

Shut up you ridiculously incompetent drunk fuck-wit. What you couldn't do in 8 years (Kill OBL) it took less than Obama's first term to hunt down, sanction & make him disappear.

See that shit-lord? That's how you kill your enemies. The NYC way.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
47. Clueless George should STFU about foreign policy.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:16 AM
Apr 2015

Junior left a huge fucking mess for Obama to deal with.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
51. Obama had it right at the WH Corresponsents' Dinner
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:12 AM
Apr 2015

Cheney was the worst president of his lifetime.

Bush, dba POTUS, was just along for the ride, reading "ecolectic" selections of literature to pass the time, and being misunderestimated.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
54. i love when progressives think they've made friends with repugs. repugs have no loyalty
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:49 AM
Apr 2015

they are like snakes who eat anything.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
55. Keep talking chimpy!
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:51 AM
Apr 2015

Talk your little heart out, because Nobody will get Dems to the poles on Election Day to vote against Jeb quicker than your insane blathering. PLEASE TALK TALK TALK!!!

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
58. "The right way to do it is to go to war with a fella you don't like by pretending he has WMDs."
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:41 PM
Apr 2015

"See, a good President doesn't worry about facts. You can have folks make 'em up for you. And then you can go get that fella who embarrassed your daddy. Heh, heh."

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
59. the worst he could say is Obama is following in his footsteps but
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 12:44 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Not enjoying as much as bush did

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
62. Republican
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 01:02 PM
Apr 2015

They (republican) make deals with a foreign state prior to being president ( Ronald Reagan) (Richard Nixon) that's normally and is treason, in fact it is treason---the republican way.


Then when you are a republican you turn the white house into a criminal enterprise (Richard Nixon).

Then you have 47 mind you republican senators signing a letter to circumvent the constitution that they run around and say they love to undermine a sitting president by the name of Obama under the Logan Act.

Then to top it all off we have this criminal coming out from under the rock a man and his administration that murdered 4685 solders , over 2800 contractors ( some who were mercenaries-like Blackwater)
and over 100,000 Iraq civilians


Then we had the republican right wing business people in 1933 you trying to overthrown the government of FDR with the likes of :

Irenee Du Pont - Right-wing chemical industrialist and founder of the American Liberty League, the organization assigned to execute the plot.

Grayson Murphy - Director of Goodyear, Bethlehem Steel and a group of J.P. Morgan banks.
William Doyle - Former state commander of the American Legion and a central plotter of the coup.

John Davis - Former Democratic presidential candidate and a senior attorney for J.P. Morgan.

Al Smith - Roosevelt's bitter political foe from New York. Smith was a former governor of New York and a codirector of the American Liberty League.

John J. Raskob - A high-ranking Du Pont officer and a former chairman of the Democratic Party. In later decades, Raskob would become a "Knight of Malta," a Roman Catholic Religious Order with a high percentage of CIA spies, including CIA Directors William Casey, William Colby and John McCone.

Robert Clark - One of Wall Street's richest bankers and stockbrokers.

Gerald MacGuire - Bond salesman for Clark, and a former commander of the Connecticut American Legion. MacGuire was the key recruiter to General Butler.

Now the question should be asked---should this party of Tories should go back to England along with there hero Benedict Arnold------my answer YES






polynomial

(750 posts)
64. servicemen committing suicides a sad legacy
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:50 PM
Apr 2015

Bush trashed the economy, then with Cheney introduces torture as a key tool in American war time operations implemented into a war developed by lies, complimented by the media by paid commercials.

Now, Bush proceeded to explain why Obama, in his view, was placing the U.S. in "retreat" around the world.

However, huge populations of war immigration spilled into what is now a boiled over caldron, the conjured mess of Middle East long term war profiteering. Now, with American servicemen committing suicides at a rate as never before.

Now Bush a longtime friend and business partner of the Bin Laden family profiteered for decades. Only the media is silent about this action which is treason.

Little talked about by our mainstream media, along with Cheney and Halliburton with mystery mercenaries that played both side for money making a mess so severe there is no recourse but to end the American involvement and move forward to indict Bush and Cheney for war crimes, war profiteering, torture, treason.

There is no other way to put closure to such human atrocity. Bush and Cheney know that so there is no recourse but to continue the lie and lie big.

But they will have to confess and that will open the Republican political party that will eventually transform away from the Nazi fascist Bush Cheney policies.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
65. * is qualified to bash O b/c * was such a great commander-in-chief
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:36 PM
Apr 2015


Fortunately, not all Jews have drunk the repukelican koolaid. Sheldon Adelson doesn't represent Jewish views on the ME---he is just another RW nutjob.
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