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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 03:51 PM Apr 2015

Teacher tackled teen during Washington high school shooting

Source: AP-Excite

By DONNA GORDON BLANKINSHIP

SEATTLE (AP) — A popular teacher is being hailed as a hero after tackling a 16-year-old student who fired two shots into the air Monday at a Washington state high school, police and students said.

No one was injured after the teen shot toward the ceiling in the school commons before classes began at North Thurston High School in Lacey, about 60 miles southwest of Seattle, authorities said. The shooter is in custody.

Students say Brady Olson, who teaches Advanced Placement government and civics, stopped the shooter.

Anthony Rybalkin, 16, said he and a group of friends were hanging out near the lunch tables when he heard a loud boom. He looked up and saw a classmate from his sixth-period class walking down the stairs from the gym into the common area with a cigarette in his mouth and a gun in his hand.

FULL story at link.



Parents and students walk away from an area at North Thurston High School Monday, April 27, 2015, where students were released to their parents after a shooting at the school earlier in the morning. Police say no one was injured, and school district officials say the gunman has been apprehended by staff. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)


Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8f1305ef899f418d899fb0cdf170b529/police-no-one-hurt-shooting-washington-high-school

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Teacher tackled teen during Washington high school shooting (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2015 OP
Stopping Roy Rolling Apr 2015 #1
No big whoop. I can easily imagine Arne Duncan, Barack Obama or.... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2015 #2
Don't forget Rahm, Walker, Bush Bros., Rick Scott, La Pierre, Michele Rhee, Fox & Co, the rest- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #3
To Walker, teachers' unions = ISIS central scrutinizer Apr 2015 #5
Teachers are Public Enemy No. 1, everybody knows that. Exactly why they go into that line- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #6
Yes, this! Our K-12 teachers deserve huzzahs and hazard pay, NOT the disrespect and attacks tblue37 Apr 2015 #25
+1 freshwest Apr 2015 #36
A good guy without a gun. Aristus Apr 2015 #4
When the law requires you to be unarmed, ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #11
I'm less interested in the notion of blaming the law than I am Aristus Apr 2015 #12
You seem to be laboring under the misconception ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #13
If one carries a gun everywhere, and the rationale is 'self-defense', Aristus Apr 2015 #14
You have an odd definition of "logical conclusion". ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #15
Being aware that there are risks in life is rational. Aristus Apr 2015 #16
How do you feel about this shooting situation? Shamash Apr 2015 #18
I credit him with being a good shot. Aristus Apr 2015 #20
Your bias is showing Shamash Apr 2015 #27
That was probably not the best, most convincing argument you could have used. Aristus Apr 2015 #30
but but but.... the kid was just expressing freedom of his second amendment speech groundloop Apr 2015 #7
I hope this "teacher" recieves the full penalty of the law Telcontar Apr 2015 #8
Be careful, or the Daily Mail will be picking up that version of events and running with it. LAGC Apr 2015 #9
God I wish you were kidding Telcontar Apr 2015 #10
I don't see the teachers union being involved in this story Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #19
I believe he's kidding. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2015 #21
Oh, dont say that to my wife Telcontar Apr 2015 #22
Whew Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #23
Even MY dense brain didn't need the sarcasm thingy on that one groundloop Apr 2015 #28
good and great outcome uppityperson Apr 2015 #17
wonderful teachers angrychair Apr 2015 #24
more guts than all gun humpers combined Skittles Apr 2015 #26
Glad you pointed it out! So true. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2015 #29
You make it sound like a CCW licensee ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #31
YES Skittles Apr 2015 #32
You seem to be suggesting that you need to get out and meet ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #33
you seem to be really big on suggestions Skittles Apr 2015 #34
It is just my helpful nature. ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #35
Maybe you just know a lot of idiots hack89 Apr 2015 #37
Some outlets are saying the teacher was a military veteran NickB79 Apr 2015 #39
I am a veteran who has been trained in firearms Skittles Apr 2015 #40
He's probably in the teachers' union too. Union "thug" . . . Damansarajaya Apr 2015 #38

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
1. Stopping
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:06 PM
Apr 2015

What? No gunfight at the O.K. Corral-type shootout where the teacher pulls out his legally-concealed weapon and NRA Fan Club card while filling the perpetrator full of holes?

What is happening to our schools?

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. No big whoop. I can easily imagine Arne Duncan, Barack Obama or....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:33 PM
Apr 2015

Bill Gates doing the same thing.

Seeeeeeeeeeriously.

central scrutinizer

(11,652 posts)
5. To Walker, teachers' unions = ISIS
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:10 PM
Apr 2015

Despite being trashed and blamed for poor school performance, every teacher I know would run towards somebody with a gun to protect the children

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
6. Teachers are Public Enemy No. 1, everybody knows that. Exactly why they go into that line-
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:18 PM
Apr 2015

to harm, terrorize and destabilize society! Longtime subversives, menace of the world!

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
25. Yes, this! Our K-12 teachers deserve huzzahs and hazard pay, NOT the disrespect and attacks
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:37 PM
Apr 2015

they actually get from pundits, politicians, and a propagandized public.

Of course some teachers are mediocre and some are lousy--that is true of every single profession in the world. But I can't think of many other professions where so many people routinely work such long hours with little or no gratitude under impossible conditions, sacrifice so much of their own free time, dip so often into their own meager finances to purchase supplies for their classrooms that school budget cuts have made it impossible for the school to afford, not to mention paying for food, supplies, and other things for individual students too impoverished to pay for such things themselves.

They do all this despite being paid much less than any other professionals of equivalent levels of education, practical training, and experience (including requirements that they continue adding to their education on their own dime).

And they do all this despite having the tenure protections they have earned yanked out from under them, and despite being raked over the coals when they cannot meet benchmarks deliberately designed to be impossible because corporatist politicians want an excuse to divert tax money from public schools into the pockets of their cronies by way of privatization schemes.

In addition to all these things, teachers in many schools are now at risk of being sued by disgruntled parents for daring to give less than perfect grades to their precious little snowflakes, or even violently assaulted by students or their parents (like the high school math teacher who recently was strangled to unconsciousness by one student's mother and then repeatedly kicked while lying there by that student, her mother, and several other students who gleefully joined into the attack).

Now, because of today's insane gun-culture, they are also expected, at a moment's notice, to protect students from murderous attacks by gun-wielding assailants, and they do so, regardless of the danger to their own lives.

Think of the principal, school psychologist, and teachers at Sandy Hook (all women, by the way) who died trying to warn others, helping their students hide or escape, or even covering their young charges with their own bodies to protect them.

The teacher in the OP who tackled the teen when he was shooting into the air in the school seems to be the rule these days, not the exception. He is just one of many teachers in recent years who have tackled and disarmed gun-wielding students, thus probably saving many lives at great risk to their own.

When will Americans stop piling crap onto these dedicated people, demoralizing them and driving even many of the best and most dedicated long-term teachers out of the profession they chose not because it pays well (it doesn't), but because they truly wanted to work with kids and to make a real difference in young people's lives?

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
4. A good guy without a gun.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:06 PM
Apr 2015

Man, the NRA is going to fucking hate this!

Rational people, OTOH, celebrate the preservation of life...

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
12. I'm less interested in the notion of blaming the law than I am
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015

In crediting people who go through life boldly and unafraid. People who do the right thing regardless of circumstances. It's the people who are so terrified of everything in the world that they can't go to Chipotle's without a gun that I have no respect for...

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
13. You seem to be laboring under the misconception
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:24 PM
Apr 2015

that carrying a gun for self defense is done out of fear.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
14. If one carries a gun everywhere, and the rationale is 'self-defense',
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015

the most logical conclusion is that this person expects that an attack is always imminent. And that describes 'fear' perfectly.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
15. You have an odd definition of "logical conclusion".
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

If one carries a gun everywhere, and the rationale is 'self-defense', it is normally done so because the carrier understands that the Bad Guys do not make appointments.

Being prepared for the occurrence of a bad event does not suggest a belief that the bad event is imminent nor even likely.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
16. Being aware that there are risks in life is rational.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:03 PM
Apr 2015

Carrying a gun everywhere, 24/7 for one's entire life, and rationalizing that as simple, common-sense preparedness, is not.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
20. I credit him with being a good shot.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:37 PM
Apr 2015

But obviously less concerned about the possibility of collateral damage than the teacher in the OP.

This, of course, is the NRA Rambo wanna-bees wet dream, of course. A righteous shot, target neutralized, with no collateral damage. The rarity of this confluence of events doesn't make me well-disposed to the delusional, soft-bellied shrinking violets who have to carry their AR-15s into Chik-fil-A with them.

 

Shamash

(597 posts)
27. Your bias is showing
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:41 PM
Apr 2015

When a carry permit holder risks his life to stop a shooter, it is a "NRA Rambo wanna-bees wet dream".

What happened to "People who do the right thing regardless of circumstances"? Or was he merely "a good shot" in the same way the teacher was I suppose "a good tackler"?

As far as I'm concerned, both individuals are heroes, as is anyone who runs towards trouble in the interest of helping others despite the potential risk to themselves.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
30. That was probably not the best, most convincing argument you could have used.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:32 PM
Apr 2015

If the teacher had tackled the wrong guy, at least the wrong guy wouldn't have ended up dead. It's pretty hard to launch a flying tackle and end up knocking down six other people you weren't going after.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
7. but but but.... the kid was just expressing freedom of his second amendment speech
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:34 PM
Apr 2015

Glad to hear that nobody was hurt, especially the teacher (who's a huge hero).

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
8. I hope this "teacher" recieves the full penalty of the law
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

Laying hands in a student, no matter the reason, is completely unacceptable! I am shocked at the accolades he is getting. What next, spanking kids for flinging food in the lunch room? This is why teachers unions suck, protecting violent teachers like this. Who's to say he wasn't trying to molest the boy?

SMH

Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
19. I don't see the teachers union being involved in this story
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

I wish he had been at Columbine High School etc...

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
33. You seem to be suggesting that you need to get out and meet
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 02:11 AM
Apr 2015

a better class of people. Most of the CCW people I know would have done that without a second thought. Granted I might know more CCW carriers than the average person.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
39. Some outlets are saying the teacher was a military veteran
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:15 PM
Apr 2015

So, he would have had years of experience with firearms.

Whether or not that makes him a "gun humper" isn't for me to decide, though.

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