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alp227

(32,045 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:51 PM Apr 2012

US Marines 'will be moved from Japan's Okinawa'

Source: BBC

The United States and Japan have reached a deal to move thousands of US Marines from the island of Okinawa.

Some 9,000 marines will be sent to ''locations outside of Japan'', a joint statement by Washington and Tokyo said. Some 10,000 troops will remain.

The revised agreement comes ahead of a visit to Washington by Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda.

The two sides have still not reached agreement on closing the controversial Futenma airbase on Okinawa.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17865198

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US Marines 'will be moved from Japan's Okinawa' (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
I believe Guam is one of their relocation destinations Zorro Apr 2012 #1
quite a few are coming to Kaneohe Marine base in Hawaii, according to the local paper nt msongs Apr 2012 #2
One of my young cousins and her Marine hubby will be returning from a tour kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #3
I am pleased to hear this. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2012 #4
Futenma is on a sweet piece of property, and it is very close to dense neighborhoods. MADem Apr 2012 #5
"Japan's Okinawa" customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #6
I believe that was a wise and most logical decision, Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #7
I agree, you don't OWN another country because you win a war there K8-EEE Apr 2012 #12
Tell that to the Native Americans. n/t customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #19
Uh, most times you do. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #21
Our generosity? Occupation was never practical. caseymoz Apr 2012 #16
It probably would have been if a large segment of the population had moved to Japan. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #22
lol. And if gravity reverses . . . caseymoz Apr 2012 #25
Not exactly the same. That's generally the time-honored way that victors take land after a war. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #26
I'd see it more as a very practical diplomatic and political policy LanternWaste Apr 2012 #24
The irony is, horrible crimes aside the ones who drive the locals nuts Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2012 #8
I trust that we will have sense enough to reduce our financial contributions there razorman Apr 2012 #9
Great news BeyondGeography Apr 2012 #10
I wonder how many will be RC Apr 2012 #11
About time. n/t Fearless Apr 2012 #13
I was stationed at Naha Okinawa, my second tour of duty. Loved the people there. AnotherDreamWeaver Apr 2012 #14
All Marines out of Iraq by 2070 Hawkowl Apr 2012 #15
You think there will be a United States in 2070? Ter Apr 2012 #17
Good question Mosaic Apr 2012 #20
Good point. n/t Hawkowl Apr 2012 #23
Finally Meiko Apr 2012 #18
Bring them ALL home. Fastcars Apr 2012 #27
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
3. One of my young cousins and her Marine hubby will be returning from a tour
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:55 PM
Apr 2012

in Okinawa this summer. I guess this is why.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Futenma is on a sweet piece of property, and it is very close to dense neighborhoods.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
Apr 2012

It's just too close to population centers, nowadays.

I guess all that spending power (and it is not inconsiderable) will go off to Guam.

That said, there have been a few 'incidents' that have been pretty serious in recent decades (taxi driver murders, rapes, that kind of thing) that ruin the reputation of the USMC personnel who don't do that kind of crap and are good ambassadors--one can completely understand the hard feelings of the locals when that kind of thing happens, but it makes it difficult for people who aren't bad guys and are respectful. To be fair, not all of those incidents came out of Futenma--at least two of 'em were guys out on the town from Camp Schwab.

I'm guessing there is a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth at some of the seedier bars off BC Street over this prospect.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
6. "Japan's Okinawa"
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
Apr 2012

About 12,500 American troops were killed or went missing from the Battle of Okinawa, with another 50,000 casualties in addition. The fact that Japan can call it their own again is a sign of our great generosity to a defeated enemy.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
12. I agree, you don't OWN another country because you win a war there
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:51 AM
Apr 2012

At least, a decent country wouldn't act that way! I don't see the need for having our soldiers there.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
16. Our generosity? Occupation was never practical.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:05 AM
Apr 2012

Not in the long run. Generosity is not the right word, unless it's generous to give away something you can't use and don't need anyway, something that will turn into a liability over time.

Smart would be the better term. Contrast that with what we did in Philippines after winning them from Spain. To do that again would have been dumb, brutal, inhumane and a crime against humanity.

MacArthur learned something from it, though, and applied it to Japan. He wasn't being generous and neither was his country.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. I'd see it more as a very practical diplomatic and political policy
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:45 PM
Apr 2012

"is a sign of our great generosity to a defeated enemy...."

I'd see it more as a very practical diplomatic and political policy (try Joseph Persico's 'Roosevelt's Secret War), and that as its most valuable resources were merely coral, limestone and sugarcane-- all of which we were getting from our puppet, the Philippines, occupation would not be allow a positive ROI. I imagine that benevolence had little to do with it.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
8. The irony is, horrible crimes aside the ones who drive the locals nuts
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:28 PM
Apr 2012

aren't the soldiers, but the wives who seem to have nothing better to do than get hammered by 11am and make a drunk nuisance of themselves in town.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
9. I trust that we will have sense enough to reduce our financial contributions there
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:32 PM
Apr 2012

by an equivalent amount.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
11. I wonder how many will be
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:41 PM
Apr 2012

leaving their friends and loved ones and going back to their families and acquaintances?

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,852 posts)
14. I was stationed at Naha Okinawa, my second tour of duty. Loved the people there.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:10 AM
Apr 2012

Loved the snorkeling at the beach too. I bought a piece of frabic from a shop there because I loved the colors and wore it as a headband, and later as a hatband for years. (Left the hat behind when I went to vote one year, called and they had set it aside, but by the time I went to retrive it someone had tossed it.)

 

Hawkowl

(5,213 posts)
15. All Marines out of Iraq by 2070
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:10 AM
Apr 2012

US Marines have been in Okinawa since 1945. It is quite possible we will have troops in Iraq for another 60 years.

Fastcars

(204 posts)
27. Bring them ALL home.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:31 PM
Apr 2012

Spent a small portion of the immense savings on improving the ability to move troops to hot spots in a hurry. And then only send them to hot spots that directly affect the U.S.

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