Sanders Could Be Blocked from New Hampshire Ballot
Source: PoliticalWire/WMUR
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) long has been close to the Democratic Party. He has won the endorsements of top national Democrats in some of his elections. Even as an Independent he caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate. Earlier this year he was named by Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid as the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, WMUR reports.
But when it comes to filing to appear on the New Hampshire primary ballot, none of that may matter. Here, its the state law that counts and the state law requires party registration.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Vermont state law is that there is no party registration. So does New Hampshire automatically exclude all potential candidates who live and are registered to vote in Vermont?
ETA: from Wikipedia
So Howard Dean, also from Vermont (where you can't register in a party) was indeed allowed on the New Hampshire ballot.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)individual states control the election rules within their borders. Comparing what New Hampshire allows and what Vermont allows, is apples and oranges.
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
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DonViejo
(60,536 posts)for Bernie, how would that bring about "the end of the Democratic Party?"
jwirr
(39,215 posts)candidate. NH has no right to change that. They will be taken to court if they try.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)When and if he does that, the problem is resolved, no?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)party registration in Vermont. Where would NH suggest he go to register?
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)declares his intention to run in the NH Presidential primary, he'll be asked, "what Party?" He puts Democrat on the form and he's in the Democratic primary. Easy.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)state you live in and getting on a ballot to run for president. What loops does one have to jump through to get on NH ballot? If Dean who also lived in Vermont did it then I am sure Bernie can qualify. I don't think this issue is going to be a problem. Especially since the DNC has accepted him as one of the Democratic candidates.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)do the same.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Sanders is a resident of Vermont.
He can't go to another state and register as a resident voter.
We don't have national voter registration in the United States.
I'm sure there are forms to be filled out even in New Hampshire to run in the Democratic Party presidential primary -- Sanders will fill them for the Democratic contest.
If there is a technical legal problem with New Hampshire, undoubtedly a lawsuit will quickly resolve the problem. Sanders is running as a Democrat -- plain and simple.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Presidential ballot, that's when he does it. It's not about registering to vote, it's about registering to run in a Party's Presidential primary.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)wins the nomination the Rs would look like idiots to say he could not take part.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)He'll be on the ballot and everyone knows it.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)their election law(s). Couldn't be that difficult.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)republicans would be opposed to giving Hilary a challenge? As far as republicans are concerned, the more divided the democrats, the better for them.
If it was up to them, they would let Bernie and 10 other independents into the democrat primary ballot.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)"the law! the law, we must uphold the law." I think they would see greater opportunity for division in the Party if they refused to change the law, thereby denying him a slot on the Democratic ballot.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)All he has to do is sign a piece of paper declaring he is running as a Democrat and he has already said will do that.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)joshcryer
(62,271 posts)It's hardly controversial.
Lefta Dissenter
(6,622 posts)We don't have party registration here in Wisconsin, either, so that might create a challenge for that Governor (or "GovernEr," as he spells it) who shall not be named, over on the Republican side of things.
Autumn
(45,093 posts)Or is this just a BS attempt?
former9thward
(32,012 posts)It is just political writers with too much time on their hands. Dean was not blocked and there was no conversation about it. Obama comes from IL with no party registration and he was not blocked and there was no attempt to do so.
BTW in Vermont your party status IS tracked. Every 4 years in the presidential primary you are asked in Vermont whether you would like a Democratic ballot or Republican ballot. That choice is marked down and public record.
glowing
(12,233 posts)to handle primary races, perhaps they shouldn't be the first state to hold primaries. And any other Dem candidate wouldn't want to hide behind some sort of election rules to avoid running against another candidate without looking afraid of the results... IMO
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)It was probably blogged (not reblogged) by Political Wire because it's news.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)I don't have a problem with that but was just saying it's not breaking news.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)On edit:
And as long as your blog is a reputable mainstream news website and/or blog.
Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs. Important news of national interest only. No analysis or opinion pieces. No duplicates. News stories must have been published within the last 12 hours. Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)would you prefer to file an alert about this OP? Before answering, please consider:
The news wasn't posted in LBN prior to this OP, and further, it was broken today by Political Wire, making it LBN
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)No alert.
Carry on.
Thank you.
Sorry trying to stay positive and not get in arguments.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)Many of you seem to be confusing voter registration with whatever they require to be listed on a state's primary ballot.
Bernie can't register to vote anywhere but Vermont, and I don't think his party registration in Vermont is going to be relevant.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)He'll follow the rules.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I think it will make for some amazing debates from Hillary Clinton and ultimately give us the absolutely best candidate for the general election. Should it be Hillary, she will be a better Candidate for having Sanders in the primary and if it's Sanders we can't go wrong with him as a President.
Total win all around.
The Democratic Debates will be so much better as oppose to the GOP which will be whom can wrap the US flag the tighest around them while sucking up to Israel saving the fetuses carrying the most guns and denying science. The debates will not cover any real issues like helping the working class of this country or income equality.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)He will need thousands of Democratic notaries to get signatures.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)I am hoping it will be just a form that he fills out.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)I don't remember these types of problems with Howard Dean.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)As I understand it, it is a simple form Sanders has to fill out. That is the law here as we have closed primaries and Kentucky recognizes only two parties in national elections and one must be registered with one or the other party to be on the primary ballot.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The name of any person shall not be printed upon the ballot of nay party for a primary unless he or she is a registered member of that party, her or she shall have met the age and domicile qualifications for the office he or she seeks at the time of the general election, he or she meets all the other qualifications at the time of the filing, and he or she shall file with the appropriate official between the first Wednesday in June and the Friday of the following week a declaration of candidacy as provided in RSA 644:17.
Howard Dean served as a Democrat when he was Governor of Vermont.
Member of the Vermont State House are all listed as either a Democrat, a Republican, or a member of the Progressive party.
By the way, Patrick Leahy is listed on the Senate Rolls as a (VT-D), that being a Democrat form Vermont.
There is a Democratic Party of Vermont
And about the whole thing about Party in Vermont. This is form the Vermont Secretary of State:
All registered voters can vote in the primary electionbut can only vote on one ballot. You will be given a ballot for each of the major parties. You mark one of the ballots and put the remaining unvoted ballots into a discard bin. Which ballot you chose to vote is private and not recorded (except during the presidential primary, where voters must publicly take one ballot or the other, and their choice is recorded on the entrance checklist).
You do not register as a member of a party, but you can only vote in primaries for one party and in Presidential election primaries, your choice of Party is recorded.
Bernie has chosen to remain unaffiliated with a party. That doesn't mean that other elected politicians form Vermont make that choice. They can choose to belong to a party, and they serve as members of a party.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The name of any person shall not be printed upon the ballot of nay party for a primary unless he or she is a registered member of that party, her or she shall have met the age and domicile qualifications for the office he or she seeks at the time of the general election, he or she meets all the other qualifications at the time of the filing, and he or she shall file with the appropriate official between the first Wednesday in June and the Friday of the following week a declaration of candidacy as provided in RSA 644:17.
former9thward
(32,012 posts)Obama was on the NH ballot.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Senator Leahy is a Democrat. Check out the state legislature, controlled by Democrats. There is a Democratic party of Vermont. Google it.
Republicans and Progressives also serve as members of their respective parties.
In Presidential primaries, Vermont citizens must choose a party and that choice is recorded. In non Presidential primaries, voters are allowed to vote for one of the three parties, but it is not recorded.
There are parties in Vermont, and elected members belong to those parties. You can find this information on the registrar of voters website.
Sanders ran as an independent, and this may hurt him in a number of states. Each states decide on their own rules.
former9thward
(32,012 posts)That choice, if any, is recorded.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I made the decision that the best way to be effective as a campaign, the best way to win is to do it through the Democratic primary process, Sanders said, before leaving a house party that attracted close to 100 supporters in Manchester. We will meet all of the requirements of all of the states, including New Hampshire. We will fulfill all of the requirements.
Gothmog
(145,274 posts)The premise for keeping Sanders off is dumb and that same premise would have kept Bush 41, Busch 43 and Carnival Cruz off the GOP ballot because in Texas you do not register to vote by party. Bernie Sanders should and will be on the ballot in New Hampshire because it is the right thing to do