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TexasTowelie

(112,204 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:43 PM May 2015

Rick Perry says Greg Abbott went too far in questioning U.S. military exercise Jade Helm 15

Source: Dallas Morning News

Former Gov. Rick Perry suggested Tuesday that successor Greg Abbott went too far last week in raising questions about U.S. military exercises in Texas.

“It’s OK to question your government. I do it on a regular basis. But the military is something else,” said Perry, an Air Force veteran, as he prepared to speak to the World Affairs Council of Dallas/Fort Worth. “Our military is quite trustworthy. The civilian leadership, you can always question that, but not the men and women in uniform.”

Last week, Abbott ordered the Texas State Guard to monitor the federal military exercises known as Jade Helm 15 after some citizens raised concerns that the maneuvers are actually the prelude to martial law.

The operation causing the suspicions is a new kind of exercise involving elite teams such as the SEALs and Green Berets from four military branches training over several states from July 15 to Sept. 15. It’s one of the largest training operations done by the military in response to what it calls the evolving nature of warfare.

Read more: http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2015/05/rick-perry-says-greg-abbott-went-too-far-in-questioning-u-s-military-exercises.html/



Time to make a selection:
1) The glasses are making Rick a little bit smarter
2) Even the stupid get it right once in awhile
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Rick Perry says Greg Abbott went too far in questioning U.S. military exercise Jade Helm 15 (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2015 OP
So, like, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #1
Righties try to outnut eachother Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #2
Rick, if everyone trusted the military, then "martial law" scaremongering will be ineffective arcane1 May 2015 #3
Yeah right, Rick, overooking the fact that our founding fathers did not want a standing army, Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #4
I thought they were worried about "foreign adventurism". knightmaar May 2015 #7
Here's what James Madison says about it... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #12
3) Rick Perry loves the military LeftInTX May 2015 #5
Yep. Thespian2 May 2015 #6
Oh my! TexasTowelie May 2015 #9
Rick Perry, Obama-Loving Socialist. nt onehandle May 2015 #8
well that's a load of crap... Javaman May 2015 #10
Congrats, Abbott: You're more stupid than Rick Perry. (nt) Paladin May 2015 #11
Unless, of course, a Republican is in the White House. tanyev May 2015 #13
I'd question their authority they are not part of the Historic NY May 2015 #14
There are three options .... cosmicone May 2015 #15
Good one for the third... TexasTowelie May 2015 #16
Send them down range to observe... Historic NY May 2015 #17
LOL, as John Stewart said "I'd never thought I'd say this, but what would Rick Perry do?" phleshdef May 2015 #18
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. Rick, if everyone trusted the military, then "martial law" scaremongering will be ineffective
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:47 PM
May 2015

Wingnuts can't have THAT!

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
4. Yeah right, Rick, overooking the fact that our founding fathers did not want a standing army,
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:57 PM
May 2015

precisely because of this.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
12. Here's what James Madison says about it...
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:12 PM
May 2015

Question
Quote from Madison: "The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."

I understand what he means, but can you give some specific examples of which events Madison was talking about. Can you give other ancient examples where foreign wars are used as a type of diversion?

Answer
In June of 1787, James Madison addressed the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on the dangers of a permanent army. “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” he argued. “The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.” That Madison, one of the most vocal proponents of a strong centralized government—an author of the Federalist papers and the architect of the Constitution—could evince such strongly negative feelings against a standing army highlights the substantial differences in thinking about national security in America between the 18th century and the 21st.

http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24671

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
10. well that's a load of crap...
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:07 PM
May 2015

cement head perry would have done the same thing.

but then again, abbott is so fucking stupid he makes perry look like a genius.

tanyev

(42,559 posts)
13. Unless, of course, a Republican is in the White House.
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:59 PM
May 2015

Then it's anti-American to question the civilian leadership, right Ricky????

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. There are three options ....
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:52 PM
May 2015


1) The glasses are making Rick a little bit smarter
2) Even the stupid get it right once in awhile
3) ummmm.... errrrrrr..... gulp ... I can't think of this one right now ... it is eluding me.
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
18. LOL, as John Stewart said "I'd never thought I'd say this, but what would Rick Perry do?"
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:49 PM
May 2015

Rick Perry is dumb and brainwashed by religion, but he does express a sliver of genuine humanity once in awhile.

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