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Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:34 PM Apr 2012

Chinese army general calls for 'decisive action' vs Philippines

Source: abs-cbn news

Chinese army general calls for 'decisive action' vs PH
by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 04/28/2012 4:20 AM | Updated as of 04/28/2012 8:14 AM

MANILA, Philippines - China should launch "decisive action" against the Philippines to reinforce Beijing's claim on the disputed Scarborough Shoal, a hardline Chinese army general said Friday.

People's Liberation Army (PLA) Major General Luo Yuan, in a commentary published by state-owned website china.org.cn, said China has not abandoned the idea of "war at all costs" to protect its interests.

"'Peaceful rise and 'period of strategic opportunity' preclude war," said Luo, who has been described by Western media as "hawkish" for his ultranationalist views.

"It is incorrect to assume that China will completely rule out military action in any event during this 'period of strategic opportunity,'" he said, referring to Beijing's dispute with Manila


Read more: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/04/27/12/chinese-general-calls-decisive-action-vs-philippines



From China Daily April 28
Voices

@Hongguoquan Writer and director at the Military Channnel of China Central Television

Instead of withdrawing vessels, China should strengthen its sovereignty over Huangyan Island by hoisting the national flag, establishing the monument of sovereignty, building military bases, or at least setting up a fishery base on the island. Huangyan Island should be viewed as a demonstration area for "breaking the deadlock" of the South China Sea. Since the Philippines raised the Huangyan Island issue, we have to show the world how we will safeguard our national sovereignty and territorial integrity.

@Caoxinglong Former ambassador to Portugal

It is understandable that people are a little anxious about Huangyan Island. But we can rest assured that our government will deal with it. First, China is a big country, so only by adopting the underdog attitude and striking only after the enemy has struck can we have the initiative and win worldwide sympathy. Second, the best policy is to subdue the enemy without fighting. We should try to avoid the use of force to secure our territory. Necessary deterrent with diplomatic and economic means will be enough.

@Beijingluge International affairs researcher with Tsinghua University

Unlike the disputed islands and reefs, Huangyan Island is an inherent part of China's territory, and China's sovereignty over the island has full legal and actual basis. The core is to strengthen the consciousness of sovereignty. While maintaining a low government profile, China should mobilize a high-profile public opinion campaign to make its voice heard and keep the international society from being misled.

@Fenghuangshipin Official Weibo account of v.ifeng.com

Major General Luo Yuan indicates that China not only should "not withdraw fire", but should also take this opportunity to strengthen its sovereignty over Huangyan Island, hoist the national flag on it, establish the sovereignty monument and build a military base. We should show the world how we safeguard our national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The pursuit of a peaceful rise doesn't mean renunciation of war. China should eliminate the mistaken belief that China won't resort to the use of force to ensure the "strategic opportunity period".
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2012-04/27/content_15164112.htm
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Chinese army general calls for 'decisive action' vs Philippines (Original Post) Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 OP
This is all about OIL the island in question has reserves lovuian Apr 2012 #1
China didn't give a shit about those islands until they found oil FreakinDJ Apr 2012 #11
Ah. Now it makes sense. eom tawadi May 2012 #19
Something like this could get out of hand pretty quickly though, so I hope that the game of teddy51 Apr 2012 #2
That's exactly what I was thinking. Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #4
not really zoff May 2012 #16
In case anyone is wondering, the island is waaay closer to the Philippines than mainland China. DRoseDARs Apr 2012 #3
Indeed. Its absurd China is laying claim to this area. DCBob Apr 2012 #7
while i mostly agree, couldn't the same be said about the falkland conflict Bodhi BloodWave May 2012 #17
No. rayofreason May 2012 #18
Here's a map to prove your point. DCBob Apr 2012 #8
135 miles from Philippines; 546 miles from China Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #10
This is obviously a case of China trying to bully the Philippines and Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #15
"...Major General Luo Yuan..." unkachuck Apr 2012 #5
Holy Shit.... so now I see why China Holds our Debt fascisthunter Apr 2012 #6
Hopefully this is just hot air by China but makes me nervous still nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #9
They're going to pull a Gulf of Mexico in the South China Sea? Awesome - if you're a tube worm saras Apr 2012 #12
Yes, I think that's inevitable. Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #14
Looks like China is really stepping into the nationalist idiot mire. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #13
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
2. Something like this could get out of hand pretty quickly though, so I hope that the game of
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:46 PM
Apr 2012

chicken has a good ending!

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
4. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:08 PM
Apr 2012

The people in charge on both sides cannot look weak or they are politically doomed.

It could get nasty very quickly.

zoff

(305 posts)
16. not really
Fri May 11, 2012, 03:52 AM
May 2012

Aquino is a one-term president (unlike Obama) so has no image to protect.

The chinese however, are concerned about their image of being THE asian superpower at all costs.

Even war with a near-defenseless country that is now paying the price for not caring about their military for decades.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
3. In case anyone is wondering, the island is waaay closer to the Philippines than mainland China.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:06 PM
Apr 2012

It'd be like Libya getting into a pissing contest with Italy over Sicily, or India going at it with the US over Hawai'i. This is just China being the regional bully.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. Indeed. Its absurd China is laying claim to this area.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:26 PM
Apr 2012

Hopefully the Philippines does not back down. Call their bluff.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
17. while i mostly agree, couldn't the same be said about the falkland conflict
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:03 AM
May 2012

in regards to the British claim to it?

Uncle Joe

(58,376 posts)
15. This is obviously a case of China trying to bully the Philippines and
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 09:04 PM
Apr 2012

I don't believe China's expansionism will end there either.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
12. They're going to pull a Gulf of Mexico in the South China Sea? Awesome - if you're a tube worm
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:49 AM
Apr 2012

You may have a future on this planet after your competition bows out.

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
14. Yes, I think that's inevitable.
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 09:03 PM
Apr 2012

Better they argue and even fight about it for centuries than make an agreement, start drilling, and fuck up even more of the Pacific.

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