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shawn703

(2,702 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:55 AM May 2015

Trade bill clears Senate hurdle

Source: CNN


Washington (CNN)—A free trade initiative that is pitting President Barack Obama against his own party cleared a major procedural hurdle in the Republican-controlled Senate on Thursday.

The 62-38 vote to end debate on the bill, moving it toward a final vote, was a victory for Obama, who had linked with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, to push the bill despite opposition from Senate Democratic leaders.

McConnell said he's willing to consider a host of amendments that Democrats are poised to offer later Thursday.

"This last vote was a major step forward on this important legislation," said Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Republican who sponsored the bill.

The Senate is now set to vote on changes to the bill, including one that would force the Obama administration to use trade deals to crack down on countries that manipulate the value of their currencies to give their exports a price advantage in the United States — an amendment the White House opposes because it would add a huge new complication into trade negotiations.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/21/politics/trade-vote-senate-tpa-tpp/

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Trade bill clears Senate hurdle (Original Post) shawn703 May 2015 OP
Boo, hiss! lark May 2015 #1
Do we know who voted with the Rs? jwirr May 2015 #2
Here you go cuncator May 2015 #5
Mark Warner was expected. Tim Kaine is a disappointment peacebird May 2015 #10
Thank you. My senators stayed true. jwirr May 2015 #11
I should have known that Princess DiFi would vote for this ... aggiesal May 2015 #15
Just like what turbinetree May 2015 #16
Here's the roll call (I think)... hughee99 May 2015 #6
I see Rand Paul voted Nay jamzrockz May 2015 #22
"The 62-38 vote to end debate on the bil" Populist_Prole May 2015 #3
Obama linked with McConnell... SoapBox May 2015 #4
Yes, by definition the leaders of each branch of government are linked. tridim May 2015 #7
Hey Tri, your post is a great example of . . FairWinds May 2015 #9
This is a DEMOCRATIC discussion forum, not a forum for hateful "others". tridim May 2015 #13
Yes it's a Democratic discussion forum, and many Democrats disagree with TPP. totodeinhere May 2015 #18
It's a Democratic forum, and today's vote was a republican victory n/t arcane1 May 2015 #20
Disagreeing with a president is not the same as hating. And to claim that is unfair. I have been jwirr May 2015 #12
Oh come on. Opposing TPP is not hating the president. totodeinhere May 2015 #17
Nail in the Coffin Kansuke May 2015 #8
Not for congress, governor, any local offices? The only Dem you will vote for is Bernie for Pres? uppityperson May 2015 #19
The majority of the Democrats in the Senate voted No. Jim Lane May 2015 #21
Why do I suppose you think that fit of pique will earn you favor here? MADem May 2015 #23
The final steps toward fascism ruffburr May 2015 #14
And not not peep from Hillary.. 4dsc May 2015 #24

lark

(23,099 posts)
1. Boo, hiss!
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:59 AM
May 2015

Corporatist dems align with always corporatist Repugs to screw American workers and the world's environment. A pox on them!

cuncator

(28 posts)
5. Here you go
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:21 PM
May 2015

Found the info in an article on thehill.com:

"Democratic Sens. Patty Murray (Wash.), Maria Cantwell (Wash.) and Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.) were among the final Democratic "yes" votes. "

and:

"The other Democrats who voted to end debate were Sens. Tom Carper (Del.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Chris Coons (Del.), Mark Warner (Va.), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Tim Kaine (Va.), Bill Nelson (Fla.) and Ron Wyden (Ore.), the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee."

I'll be contacting Bill Nelson's office later to express my disappointment.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
16. Just like what
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:42 PM
May 2015

Thom Hartmann said, call your Senator and express to them a thank you for voting against this measure.

Which I am going to do with Senators Cardin and Mikulski:
clap:


In my next rant:

As for those that voted for it:
You are a hypocrite to your constituents, and to this country-----------if you have not figured out why are inner cities are decaying, why, people cannot afford to pay for there water, gas, electricity, and have no income, high crime, having Mayors in cities saying they are doing what they can to help there constituents, and then getting "deals" like this again and again---a policy of failed trade bills ect...... you should have a clue---------- one big clue------------its called unfair trade bills.

Which are causing this country to become a third world state-----------
Why, look at what manufacturing which use to be done here in cities, like Baltimore, Detroit, Long Beach, is now done in China, which is causing to create even in a Authoritarian Capitalists society, a middle class, which we use to have, how much more of a picture does it take for you to smell the coffee, roses, or are you just that narrow minded in your thinking.

Because those that keep voting like this, you are only worried about getting to your next primary, instead of core principles and values to the American worker.
You are a supporter of 40 years of Reagan policy, you are euphuistically what are called ------------ sell outs to corporations, even though, there are those that will say China has nothing to do with this legislation---------wrong it is about China, Nafta, Cafta, Korea, Japan ect......










 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
22. I see Rand Paul voted Nay
Fri May 22, 2015, 02:15 AM
May 2015

and Cruz and Rubio voted yes, Me thinks Rand is making a bid for disgruntled Hillary supporters. 2016 is going to fun to watch.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
3. "The 62-38 vote to end debate on the bil"
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:07 PM
May 2015

Now isn't that democracy in action?



I wonder how those 62 that voted FOR fast-track will vote AGAINST the TPP?

Yeah. I thought so too.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
7. Yes, by definition the leaders of each branch of government are linked.
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:24 PM
May 2015

They are all leaders of their respective branches.

But I guess you hate our President, so you think you're being clever or something. It's the "in" thing to do.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
9. Hey Tri, your post is a great example of . .
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:33 PM
May 2015

trying to shut someone up by name calling and changing the subject.
There was NOTHING about "hate" in Soapbox post.

Shame on you for contributing mightily to the demise of reasoned exchanges of views.

Veterans For Peace

tridim

(45,358 posts)
13. This is a DEMOCRATIC discussion forum, not a forum for hateful "others".
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:54 PM
May 2015

Is that ducky enough for you Mr. FairWinds?

Thanks for your concern.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
18. Yes it's a Democratic discussion forum, and many Democrats disagree with TPP.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:39 PM
May 2015

That includes a majority of Democrats in Congress. This forum is for Democrats but it's not just about one man named Barack Obama. It's about the entire Democratic Party and within the party there can be a healthy disagreement about issues.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Disagreeing with a president is not the same as hating. And to claim that is unfair. I have been
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:54 PM
May 2015

voting since JFK and have never seen so many calls to toe the line not matter what.

I do not agree with President Obama because I think TPP is bad for our country but also because I do not think giving multi-national corporations more power is good for any country.

That is not hate. It is a reason. Hate is what his partners on TPP (Rs) have been doing since the day he was inaugurated. I for one am asking why he trusts them on this. They and their supporters really do hate him.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
17. Oh come on. Opposing TPP is not hating the president.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:35 PM
May 2015

I hate TPP, not the president with whom I agree on many issues. Why has it got to the point where some people throw out the "hate" word when someone has a principled disagreement with President Obama?

 

Kansuke

(1 post)
8. Nail in the Coffin
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:32 PM
May 2015

It's unbelievable that these things are happening in our lifetime. Complete corporate control of the United States of America. They've always had sway, but now the have control we have no recourse because of NAFTA, CAFTA and soon to be SHAFTA aka TPP. New World Order indeed. Welcome to the new Plutocratic era.

I will no longer vote for any Democrats, except Bernie Sanders. Bye bye Dems.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. The majority of the Democrats in the Senate voted No.
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:40 AM
May 2015

For those who stood up to a President of their own party and voted in the interest of the people, it's not fair to condemn them just because they share a party affiliation label with the 13 who voted with the Republicans.

The situation in the House will be similar: Most Republicans for the bill, some against; most Democrats against the bill, some for.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. Why do I suppose you think that fit of pique will earn you favor here?
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:30 PM
May 2015

Hint--it won't. The goal of this site is to support DEMOCRATS for public office. Not teabaggers, not Paulbots, not Republicans.

Read the TOS before you stick your foot further in....! Or don't!

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
14. The final steps toward fascism
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:23 PM
May 2015

This is as far as I'm concerned the final steps of the corporate coup , America that we have known has been sold to corporations by our politicians, If they can complete their coup we will be a third world country without a single shot fired. No on TPP . I will not vote for any democrat who voted to fast track anything , Sorry Mrs. Fienstien you have lost my support and anyone I know I will tell them of your treasonous actions

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