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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:10 PM May 2015

Jim Bob Duggar Didn't Report Son Josh's Alleged Sex Offenses For More Than A Year

Source: intouchweekly

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The report has been hidden since 2006 and was just obtained by the mag through a Freedom of information Act request. Jim Bob also refused to allow police to interview Josh when they opened a felony investigation in 2006. The Duggars star on TLC’s hit show 19 Kids and Counting.

Other bombshells in the police report are: Josh Duggar was investigated for multiple sex offenses — including forcible fondling — against five minors. Some of the alleged offenses investigated were felonies. Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar were interview by the Springdale Police department on Dec. 12, 2006. The report says that James told police he was alerted in March, 2002 by a female minor that Josh — who turned 14-years-old that month — had been touching her breasts and genitals while she slept. This allegedly happened on multiple occasions. In 2006, Jim Bob told police that in July, 2002 Josh admitted to fondling a minor’s breasts while she slept. “James said that they disciplined (redacted, Josh) after this incident.” The family did not alert authorities.

Jim Bob told police that about nine months later in March, 2003 “there was another incident.” Josh was again accused by a female minor of touching her breasts and genitals. Josh was accused by several minors of touching their genitals, often when they slept, but at times when they were awake.

Jim Bob then “met with the elders of his church and told them what was going on.” No one alerted the police or any other law enforcement agency. Instead they decided to send Josh to a “program [that] consisted of hard physical work and counseling. James said that [redacted, Josh] was in the program from March 17, 2003 until July 17, 2003.”

Read more: http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/bombshell-duggar-police-report-jim-bob-duggar-didn-t-report-son-josh-s-alleged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906



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Jim Bob Duggar Didn't Report Son Josh's Alleged Sex Offenses For More Than A Year (Original Post) StevieM May 2015 OP
How does one "refuse to allow police" anything?? arcane1 May 2015 #1
According to Wikipedia, Josh was born on March 3, 1988. Maybe he was still just shy of 18 when they StevieM May 2015 #11
Different rules for white, rich celebrities. Kelvin Mace May 2015 #12
Were the other minors his sisters? I had read that but was not sure of the source...n/t monmouth4 May 2015 #2
I would assume that ...otherwise the parrents of the abused child would have called the cops. L0oniX May 2015 #5
I believe the parents of that child did report it to the police but much later. Don't know what monmouth4 May 2015 #9
It doesn't sound like they were his sisters, but I guess we can't be positive at this stage. StevieM May 2015 #14
That's why I'm thinking they were his sisters....I dunno either...n/t monmouth4 May 2015 #15
The police report states that the victims were LibDemAlways May 2015 #22
I hadn't yet gotten that information when I put up that post. But, yeah, four of the victims were StevieM May 2015 #25
Four of the five victims *were* his sisters--all under 13. nt tblue37 May 2015 #28
No wonder he went to the "family research" council. xfundy May 2015 #3
He was 13 turning 14. His on earth was this released? yeoman6987 May 2015 #6
He was 14, and it happened again the next year. xfundy May 2015 #8
Still don't know how it was released. yeoman6987 May 2015 #10
It helps that now people are forewarned that he's a predator riderinthestorm May 2015 #16
I don't think it's fair to say that a 14 year old is beyond redemption, no matter what they did pnwmom May 2015 #23
Apparently their ages were 8-12. nt tblue37 May 2015 #29
I haven't seen their ages, but he was 14. Are you saying you agree that a 14 year old pnwmom May 2015 #32
No, I am not saying that. I fact, I believe a boy in the tblue37 May 2015 #34
Your analysis makes tremendous good sense. Thank you for taking the time. n/t pnwmom May 2015 #36
More like alcoholics... there are some who are in recovery and 1monster May 2015 #24
It may prevent him from molesting his own children. xfundy May 2015 #19
So they covered up a crime maindawg May 2015 #4
Both parents should be charged with a crime dbackjon May 2015 #7
Looks like the church may be on the hook as well SwankyXomb May 2015 #13
Here's a police document. xfundy May 2015 #17
Now that's real christian for you! LibGranny May 2015 #18
Sorry if this offends Christian DUers --BUT are you really suprised? diabeticman May 2015 #20
Any body care to call for their immediate arrest? craigmatic May 2015 #21
Family of FREAKS. onehandle May 2015 #26
And these hypocritical ASSHOLES were making robocalls stating that Transgendered people would AzDar May 2015 #27
WTF is a Jim Bob Duggar? DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #30
Here you go. This link should help. StevieM May 2015 #31
Probably why they married him off so young dflprincess May 2015 #33
These people are all for young marriage. They want that for all their kids, except Jana StevieM May 2015 #35
Worse, she says she and her parents knew before they considered marriage. LeftyMom May 2015 #37
Locking thread. TexasTowelie May 2015 #38
UNLOCKING THE THREAD. TexasTowelie May 2015 #39
Thank you very much!! I appreciate your diligence. (eom) StevieM May 2015 #40
You're welcome. TexasTowelie May 2015 #41

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
11. According to Wikipedia, Josh was born on March 3, 1988. Maybe he was still just shy of 18 when they
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:27 PM
May 2015

opened the investigation in 2006. Or maybe he just invoked his 5th amendment rights against self-incrimination.

monmouth4

(9,705 posts)
9. I believe the parents of that child did report it to the police but much later. Don't know what
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:24 PM
May 2015

happened to that report but it did open this can of worms. If not for their report this would still be covered up....Wish I could find that blurb I first read this...

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. It doesn't sound like they were his sisters, but I guess we can't be positive at this stage.
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

I also have to wonder how he was ever in a position to molest anyone, given the tight leash that the kids are kept under. I always assumed that they are not allowed out of the house alone, lest they be tempted to sin. But maybe that is only the girls.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
22. The police report states that the victims were
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:15 PM
May 2015

minors whose parents were named as JimBob and Michelle Duggar. They were his sisters -- all 12 or younger at the time.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
25. I hadn't yet gotten that information when I put up that post. But, yeah, four of the victims were
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

his sisters. One more wasn't. She is the one whose parents pushed for action. But it appears that by then it was too late because the statute of limitations had expired. Actually, they ran out the clock with the help of a cop (who is now in jail for possession of child pornography). I think that the case was re-opened when someone from Oprah's staff notified law enforcement.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
3. No wonder he went to the "family research" council.
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:18 PM
May 2015

All their accusations against gays are projection.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
10. Still don't know how it was released.
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:26 PM
May 2015

Obviously a minor is supposed to be sealed of all crimes. I think he needed help but now at his age this is not helping anybody.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
16. It helps that now people are forewarned that he's a predator
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:39 PM
May 2015

no way would I allow any minor children near him.

Child predators are impossible to "cure".

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
23. I don't think it's fair to say that a 14 year old is beyond redemption, no matter what they did
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:22 PM
May 2015

He was not 30 or 40 or 50 -- or even 21. He was a kid, and molesting girls not that far from him in age (since they had breasts).

What he did was wrong, obviously. But I hold the parents more responsible than the 14 year old.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
32. I haven't seen their ages, but he was 14. Are you saying you agree that a 14 year old
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:23 PM
May 2015

is beyond redemption? No matter what circumstances might have led to criminal acts?

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
34. No, I am not saying that. I fact, I believe a boy in the
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:04 PM
May 2015

confusion and hormonal turmoil of puberty needs parents who will explain what is going on, why he is experiencing unfamiliar urges, and how they can be dealt with in appropriate ways.

In his family he learned that any possible sexual outlets (and probably sexual feelings or thoughts as well) were sinful and cause for shame. With no guidance and no supervision, he acted out inappropriately, because he had several potential victims available and as the oldest in a family in which the parents expected their kids to pretty much raise each other, he was probably given a lot of authority over his siblings--and as a male, he also absorbed the family's assumption, reinforced by their religion, that females exist mainly to look up to, serve, and obey men.

I have a (now adult) son. We have always communicated comfortably about everything. As a teen, especially a young teen, he was full of questions and concerns, but he always could bring them to me with no fear of being mocked or shamed. In fact, his teenaged friends, both male and female, also brought me the questions and problems they didn't feel comfortable asking their own parents about, because their parents were either too unavailable or too embarrassed to help them.

Heck, one of my college students, a freshman girl away from her fundamentalist family and church for the first time, asked me to help her buy sanitary pads (not tampons, because she'd been taught she wouldn't be a virgin if she used them). She had been made to feel furtive and embarrassed about menstruation, and since her mother always provided her pads, she was too embarrassed to go into the store and buy them herself.

I bet that a lot of boys who are not offered information or guidance to help them understand and deal with the overwhelming feelings and urges they suddenly experience as they go through puberty--especially in our hypersexualized, misogynistic, patriarchal culture--end up crossing the line in their early adolescence as Josh Duggar did. And his family's religious extremism sure wouldn't have helped any, either.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
24. More like alcoholics... there are some who are in recovery and
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:24 PM
May 2015

do not offend again, but they must always avoid trigger points.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
19. It may prevent him from molesting his own children.
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:13 PM
May 2015

No matter his age then or now, incest is CREEPY.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
13. Looks like the church may be on the hook as well
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:30 PM
May 2015

What did Arkansas's mandatory reporter law look like in 2003?

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
20. Sorry if this offends Christian DUers --BUT are you really suprised?
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:17 PM
May 2015

When you live and breath and only think of the Bible as literal truth it...I'm not surprised....


Dinah---
When Jacob's family prepares to descend to Egypt Genesis 46:8-27, the Torah lists the 70 family members who went down together. Simeon's children include "Saul, the son of the Canaanite woman."[10] The medieval French rabbi Rashi hypothesized that this Saul was Dinah's son by Shechem.[10] He suggests that after the brothers killed all the men in the city, including Shechem and his father, Dinah refused to leave the palace unless Simeon agreed to marry her[10] and remove her shame (according to Nachmanides, she only lived in his house and did not have sex with him). Therefore, Dinah's son is counted among Simeon's progeny, and he received a portion of land in Israel in the time of Joshua. The list of the names of the families of Israel in Egypt is repeated in Exodus 6:14-25.


Lot and his daughters---

Genesis 19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.


And just were did Cane and Seth get their wives when Adam and Eve and children were the ONLY people on the earth..

Genesis 4 tells of the birth of Cain and Abel, Adam and Eve's first children, while Genesis 5 gives Adam's genealogy past that. Adam and Eve are listed as having three children, Cain, Abel and Seth, then "other sons and daughters".[Gen 5:4] According to the Book of Jubilees, Cain married his sister Awan, a daughter of Adam and Eve.[25]


When children are taught that males are to be worship and listen too like they have the voice of God and you have a mother too business doing her ONLY duty God placed her on earth for to bring forth children it makes one wonder what OTHER skeletons are in the Duggar closet.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
26. Family of FREAKS.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:26 PM
May 2015

Palins, Duggars, Donners...

All the same.

TLC? Continuing your roster of freak shows?

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
27. And these hypocritical ASSHOLES were making robocalls stating that Transgendered people would
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:01 PM
May 2015

"molest kids in public restrooms" if given rights...

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
30. WTF is a Jim Bob Duggar?
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:12 PM
May 2015

OK, I have some vague idea of who these people are, but damned if I haven't tried my hardest not to.

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
33. Probably why they married him off so young
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:01 PM
May 2015

(either that or coming from repressed family that he does, he confused wanting to get laid with being in love).

What is scary is that I think he has a little girl and I doubt that the doormat he married will be able to protect her.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
35. These people are all for young marriage. They want that for all their kids, except Jana
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:17 PM
May 2015

who is called Cinderella Duggar. Jana is the oldest girl and they need her to take care of the younger kids.

Josh has one daughter and another one on the way, due in July. And they plan on following in his parents' footsteps--no birth control, God will decide how big their family ultimately becomes. So he is going to have a lot of daughters. A lot.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
37. Worse, she says she and her parents knew before they considered marriage.
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:48 PM
May 2015

Considering that there's no chance of an intentionally childless marriage in their belief system that seems disgustingly reckless.

TexasTowelie

(112,195 posts)
38. Locking thread.
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:33 AM
May 2015

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TexasTowelie

(112,195 posts)
41. You're welcome.
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:29 PM
May 2015

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