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Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:10 PM Jun 2015

Rep. Rice, switching sides, backs trade deal opposed by labor unions

Source: Newsday

By TOM BRUNE

Labor union leaders accused Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-Garden City) of "betrayal" after she announced Saturday that she has switched positions and now supports congressional approval of fast-track authority for President Barack Obama to negotiate a trade deal known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Rice announced her new position in an op-ed in The Hill, a Washington paper, in which she conceded she might face a "political cost" for her decision, which breaks ranks with other Democrats representing Long Island.

"The congresswoman has decided to flip-flop and betray her constituents . . . Her betrayal will not be forgotten," said New York State AFL-CIO president Mario Cilento.

Working Families Party director Bill Lipton said, "We are outraged that Rep. Rice would break a promise she made to Long Island working families."

FULL story at link.

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.10515548.1433626757!/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.JPG

Rep. Kathleen Rice is seen at Garden City Village Hall in Garden City on Tuesday, Nov. 4, 2014. Photo Credit: Howard Schnapp

Read more: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/rep-rice-switching-sides-backs-trade-deal-opposed-by-labor-unions-1.10515515

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Rep. Rice, switching sides, backs trade deal opposed by labor unions (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2015 OP
What was the "payoff" they promised her to swap votes? Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #1
Rec'd ibewlu606 Jun 2015 #2
as in Obama's TPP? nt msongs Jun 2015 #7
Exactly right. fasttense Jun 2015 #18
I sent the gentle lady a letter Plucketeer Jun 2015 #3
Another reason to refuse to donate through the DNC and the others. They will use money to jwirr Jun 2015 #4
But she's a Democrat so we're supposed to support her no matter what. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #5
Most Democrats are in favor of the free trade agreement. Including Obama. No betrayal, disagreement is not that. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #6
Sorry, this is not a simple disagreement sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #8
Obama does nothing to protect workers....you made me laugh! Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #9
What has he done for American workers? Can't see much. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #14
Read Wiki-Leaks, Robert Reich and many others on TPP lark Jun 2015 #20
Well, there was all of that stuff he did in Wisconsin. Oh yeah, that's right. He did squat. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #10
Don't forget how he rammed card-check through Congress! Fuddnik Jun 2015 #13
She represents everything wrong with our current political culture DJ13 Jun 2015 #11
Link to her article alp227 Jun 2015 #12
I think the AFL-CIO is only posturing and they will capitulate later as they Demonaut Jun 2015 #15
AFL-CIO switch hitting against NAFTA on Steroids? Not bloody likely! Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #16
There are parts of it they will like, just like they like being able to sue Mexico and Honduras Recursion Jun 2015 #21
Give and Take?????????????????? Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #22
Good program? Good luck with that snow ... er ... I mean sales job. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #17
bullshit cali Jun 2015 #23
"a political cost" perhaps, but I smell a future well paid lobbyist n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2015 #19

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
1. What was the "payoff" they promised her to swap votes?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:32 PM
Jun 2015

Her opinion in The Hill reads like an apology for NAFTA. She claims there will be enforcement on worker protections and environmental issues without ever discussing the by-passing of legal structures here and elsewhere that is written into the pact.

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
2. Rec'd
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:45 PM
Jun 2015

THIS is why I will never support HRC and will encourage all my members to do the same. Why should labor help elect a Dem that will turn around and screw us, when Republicans will do it for free?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
18. Exactly right.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jun 2015

Obama followed in the footsteps of his favorite Ronnie Raygun by betraying his promise to the Unions and pushing through labor hating trade agreements.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
3. I sent the gentle lady a letter
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jun 2015

Thru less than gentle words, I conveyed my displeasure and speculated as to what her "price" might have been to prompt her to turn her back on her constituents. I also said I'd be anxious to support whoever opposes her when her term is up!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. Another reason to refuse to donate through the DNC and the others. They will use money to
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jun 2015

support this. I for one will donate only to the individual.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
5. But she's a Democrat so we're supposed to support her no matter what.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jun 2015

At least according to some posters here.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Most Democrats are in favor of the free trade agreement. Including Obama. No betrayal, disagreement is not that.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:08 PM
Jun 2015

Disagreement it is, betrayal it is not.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
8. Sorry, this is not a simple disagreement
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jun 2015

this is caving for whatever reason and to further
discredit the unions.

This trade agreement has far too serious consequences
to be called a "simple disagreement".

However, we have seen how often Obama put on his
walking shoes to protect the American workers!
NEVER!

lark

(23,105 posts)
20. Read Wiki-Leaks, Robert Reich and many others on TPP
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jun 2015

It is truly anti-worker, pro big pharma, pro big business, anti-labor, anti-environment. It gives big business the ability to override government laws that reduce their expected profits. It goes further to neuter workers than NAFTA. Open your eyes and see what's out there aobut this. If it's so good, why is it so hidden? Where is the transparency? Why were no labor or environemntal reps. appointed by Obama, but instead all were big business lobbyist?

Demonaut

(8,918 posts)
15. I think the AFL-CIO is only posturing and they will capitulate later as they
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:23 AM
Jun 2015

know this is a good program and may even endorse portions.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
16. AFL-CIO switch hitting against NAFTA on Steroids? Not bloody likely!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:38 AM
Jun 2015

AFL-CIO have a long argued against TPP as one more means of off-shoring jobs, undercutting US wages, weakening environmental controls and endangering work place safety regulation.

What have you read that suggests otherwise?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. There are parts of it they will like, just like they like being able to sue Mexico and Honduras
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:27 AM
Jun 2015

They'll like to be able to do the same to Malaysia and Vietnam, too. Like most trade deals this will be a mixed bag for labor. Heavy manufacturing in the US will be helped, and consumer manufacturing will be hurt, just like it was with NAFTA and CAFTA. The increasingly silly attempts to portray the TPP as some sort of Armageddon rather than the kind of give-and-take that trade agreements have been for the past 25 years doesn't really help opposition to the TPP...

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
22. Give and Take??????????????????
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jun 2015

I think you must read a different history of economics and trade negotiation than I. The wholesale rape of the economy is not what I had in mind. If the details of this pact are so beneficial why are they classified so they cannot be discussed by congress and the people? What happened to advice and consent? The Unified Executive is the only law of the land?

After watching my career off-shored, along with thousands of other people, I no longer trust this kind of trade pact. NAFTA and CAFTA are not healthy responses to our economy. If TPP and TISA are such a good deal for us why were we locked out of the room while the lobbyists wrote the agreements?

AFL-CIO won't back down and I won't either. I think you live in another world, not the one we work in.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. bullshit
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jun 2015

history says you are wrong about the AFL-CIO and the tpp is far from being a good program, unless you love big fat, obscene corporate giveaways.

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