Calls mount to fire Texas officer who threw youth to ground
Source: Reuters
BY JON HERSKOVITZ
A rally is planned for Monday in the Dallas-area city of McKinney calling for the firing of the police officer seen in a viral video throwing a bathing suit-clad teenage girl to the ground and pointing his pistol at other youths at a pool party.
The officer, McKinney Police Corporal Eric Casebolt, has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation of how he responded to a disturbance at a pool party on Friday in the city about 30 miles north of Dallas, an incident that has raised fresh questions about racial bias in U.S. policing.
Casebolt, a white officer, is seen in the video shouting obscenities at black youths in a multiracial crowd, placing a black youth in handcuffs, briefly pointing his gun at the youths and throwing a black teenage girl to the ground, burying his knees in her back to keep her prone.
"We are demanding that the officer be fired and be charged with assaulting the youth," said Dominique Alexander, the president of the Next Generation Action Network, which is organizing the rally.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/08/us-usa-texas-police-idUSKBN0OO1VJ20150608
malthaussen
(17,200 posts)And good luck with that.
-- Mal
daleanime
(17,796 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Who is the dumb looking White guy in shorts who seems to be blocking the video? A neighbor who called the cops?
samsingh
(17,599 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)That communities start firing cops who do their job using only excessive force. These guys need to weeded out of the Police Departments. Cops should be required to take more training as well. Police Academy should be mandatory.
mainer
(12,022 posts)One of them calmly talking to the kids. I'm sure they thought Casebolt was way out of control, too. He almost seemed hyped up on steroids or something.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)The same kid that dared to challenge the cop's aggression against the young lady.
He took off running when the cop pulled his weapon and started to point it at him. He returned with a bloodied face. What did those two cops do to him?
mainer
(12,022 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)erronis
(15,287 posts)Who hired this creep? Who trained him? What organization (FOP?) condones this type of action?
Just like any other organization, the whole lot of them should stand trial.
Whoops, we only do that for some mobsters, not the banksters, military, radical right, etc.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)result from the call. I can't see any good reason for calling the police in the first place.
byronius
(7,395 posts)Told them to 'go back to Section Eight housing'. Made up a fight-story later.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)country. It's an excellent invitation for racists with a sadistic streak to call the police and hope
for, what to a sadist is, some entertainment.
I think policemen should be aware of the above.
byronius
(7,395 posts)Who didn't bother to wait for the racist cops to arrive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy
Madness. I'm glad the cellphone video is helping, though. How many dead without investigation or question before the cellphone cam? Tens of thousands.
Fiendish
(47 posts)The Reuters article linked by the OP contains no information at all regarding who called the police, unless I'm missing it.
CNN is reporting that a security guard at the pool called police after the kids ignored his directives to leave. The pool is in a planned community. It doesn't outright say private or gated, but it may be. Either way, the HOA rules state that only two guests can be brought to the pool by someone who lives in the neighborhood.
Apparently, the party invitations got spread far and wide on social media, so far more people showed up than were supposed to be there. As I mentioned, they ignored the security guard's directions and jumped the fence. At this point, they're trespassing.
The way the officer reacted was completely unprofessional and out of line (and he needs to be held to account for it), but that doesn't negate the fact that these kids were trespassing and refused to leave when ordered to do so by a person with the authority to make that determination.
Don't make this out like it's some racist old white lady clutching her pearls and getting the vapors because "those people" showed up at her neighborhood pool. The reporting on the incident at this time doesn't bear out your assertion, so it looks like you're just trying to stir the pot for the sake of it.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)it was started by the racist white lady who first told them to go back to their section 8 housing
CNN is reporting that the call came from a security guard after the crowd of kids ignored his instructions to leave the pool. At that point, they're trespassing, unless they live in the neighborhood, or are one of the two people a resident is allowed to invite, per the HOA rules.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)marshall
(6,665 posts)the first step should be to call the parents if the kids get too rambunctious.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I read he's the VP of the local police union, a patrol supervisor and an instructor at the police academy. My gut says he's going to be protected because he's such an active member of the police community there.
That he's also the person who pulled a gun on kids at a pool party, and brutalized and traumatized a teenaged black girl at the behest of some racist neighbors can't really be held against him when he has such an impressive resume, after all. Or, so I've been reading on the internet at least. We shall see what transpires in the end, but his supporters are already out defending his reputation in force.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)Which is why he should be fired for his actions. You should never leave an out of control nutcase in such a position of power. It will inevitably lead to more problems down the road, even a community as small as that one.
Not Sure
(735 posts)It's more or less connected to the greater Dallas-Fort Worth metro urban sprawl mega area. The attitudes reflected by this cop's actions are consistent with people I've encountered in this area over the years.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I read in an article it had a population of just over 150k people, and was assuming based on that.
It's depressing to hear that this cops actions are representative of the attitudes of the population in the region, but it's not a surprise after some of what I've read today.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)gee, I've needed to use that gif several times today.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)It's always possible that he will be fired still. It's just not as likely when you take into account his deep roots in the local police community.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Might makes right, doesn't it?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Could they have botched this any more thoroughly?
At least they didn't discharge their weapons. But they came close! Black teens were the obvious target. And for what!?
chervilant
(8,267 posts)charge the racist woman who assaulted that youngling and started the entire episode.
Fiendish
(47 posts)Nothing I've read about this incident mentions any such thing as a precipitating factor.
I'm confident you can do your own research, and view the various videos captured by the witnesses to the event.
If you make the assertion, it's on you to provide proof of some variety to back up said assertion. It's not my job to do research to back up or disprove your assertion.
I've viewed the videos that the major news outlets are reporting on. None of those videos depicts, nor does the reporting mention, any kind of assault prior to the officer going off on the girl. If an assault had taken place, I'm confident that it'd be reported by the news outlets devoting coverage to the story.
TL;DR: The onus is on you to cite your sources to back up your assertion, or it didn't happen.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)You just go right on telling yourself that.
Here, just because I happened to run across it on fb. You're lucky -- I don't play these childish games with members who've been here a while; please don't expect it in future:
One of the white adults who assaulted black teenagers and called them racial slurs at a pool party in the suburbs of Dallas, Texas is Tracey Carver-Allbritton, a home loan officer for Bank of America. Leave her a review: http://bit.ly/1FFKV96
Send a message to Bank of America's HR director and demand they fire Carver-Allbritton for assaulting a child: andrea.smith@bankofamerica.com
You can read more just about ANYWHERE on the inner tubes. Try it.
I'm sorry, but Facebook is not what I'd call a reputable source of news. You make an assertion that radically alters the dynamic of this incident, and for proof you offer... some random Joe's post on Facebook? Seriously? That's laughable. Why not just cite Wikipedia while you're at it?
You started off with "you can view the various videos captured by witnesses to the event," and when pressed to back up your assertion, you then offer some random copy/paste from Facebook? You only moved the goalposts a little bit there.
In any case, your assertion is just hot air until you provide a citation that'd pass muster in a junior high research paper.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)What a smashing rebuttal, chock-full of facts and evidence. You must have been a holy terror in your junior high debate society. I stand in awe of your masterful performance.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I'm bored by your predictable and puerile posts. I have just perused three other OPs about the racist white women who fueled this altercation. Too bad you're so invested in derisive posts that you cannot take the time to see the evidence you demand of me.
GO AWAY.
Fiendish
(47 posts)Just so you know, the SOP in any debate or argument is to provide evidence or proof to back up your assertions. If you just spout whatever you want, and provide no evidence to back it up, then don't be surprised when people call you out on it, especially regarding a situation like this.
As it happens, I did research it a bit. CNN quotes a witness who mentions a "fight between a mom and a girl" in passing. Reuters mentions nothing of the sort. The only news source that backs up the assertion you're making is... Fox News.
So I'll grant you, yes, someone out there said a fight happened and a racially-charged remark was made. Given the utter absence of such inflammatory and potentially sensational witness testimony from other media outlets, I'm inclined to question it.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Wow.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1113173
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Fiendish
(47 posts)You get what you give. I made a simple request to the other person: back up your assertion with something other than your words. They responded with snark and attitude, so I responded in kind. It really is that simple.
Also, some of the juror responses are just baffling. Because I asked for facts, rather than assertions and rumors propagated via Facebook, I'm a bigoted troll? Because I asked for something concrete in order to form a reasoned conclusion, I'm a bigoted troll?
This is the second time I've run into this attitude as a new user here. If I dare to question the already-formed opinions of other people, especially in a situation like this where visceral reactions are very understandable, I'm somehow "not left-leaning enough"? When did operating from logic and reason become a right-wing position?
Again, I dunno if I'm even "allowed" to respond to a jury decision paste, but I'm really trying to understand the dynamic on DU. Thus far, it seems an awful lot like questioning the dominant opinion is viewed as wrong. Not something I'd associated with being left-wing, honestly.
tblue37
(65,393 posts)That's what I was asking for. None of the major news outlets were carrying or referencing this video as of this morning. Though it starts when they're already hands-on with each other, so no indication of who started the altercation.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)about the two white women whose racist comments started this brouhaha?!?
Poor wee mannie: go have a look...it's all over the inner tubes now. You shouldn't have any trouble finding it.
mainer
(12,022 posts)Fiendish
(47 posts)That doesn't make it so. It seems to me that it's equally likely a 19-year-old would bend the truth to protect her friends as it is that a white woman in Texas made a racist remark.
I'm sure the woman in question would deny having done so, and absent hard evidence to the contrary, it's a wash.
There's even a video
Not Sure
(735 posts)I would like to see a series of firings of fascist thug police. These assholes deserve nothing but contempt.
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Nutcase fits accurately.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Make it look like a graceful retirement.
And of course he'll get a fat (taxpayer funded) pension.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)All net.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)DJ at a community's pool and refused requests to leave."
It seems to me that the incident started when the young woman was attacked by two women.
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)Looks like 'roid rage to me. With a splash of good old fashioned racism on the side.
BumRushDaShow
(129,067 posts)and white teens, "teens"? There is an obsessive abusive code talk that some media have fired up over the past decade, that not unlike their use of the term "inner city", serves to invoke a stereotype.
Prisoner_Number_Six
(15,676 posts)Is fiction turning into fact, or is fact turning into fiction?
I'm so confused...
Sparhawk60
(359 posts)To me, the cop pulling out his gun was way over the top and deserves jail time. He was facing a group of unruly kids, not a mob of attackers. And what was his plan for the gun? Was he going to shot a bunch of unarmed, and no-threatening kids?
I know I keep beating the "what would the punishment be if you or I did the same" drum. But really, we would be facing serous jail time for doing what that cop did.
mainer
(12,022 posts)They're keeping an eye on the case and they have "boots on the ground."
https://twitter.com/OpMcKinney
mainer
(12,022 posts)Just saw the news come across on Twitter.