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Omaha Steve

(99,655 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:29 PM Jun 2015

Calls mount to fire Texas officer who threw youth to ground

Source: Reuters

BY JON HERSKOVITZ

A rally is planned for Monday in the Dallas-area city of McKinney calling for the firing of the police officer seen in a viral video throwing a bathing suit-clad teenage girl to the ground and pointing his pistol at other youths at a pool party.

The officer, McKinney Police Corporal Eric Casebolt, has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation of how he responded to a disturbance at a pool party on Friday in the city about 30 miles north of Dallas, an incident that has raised fresh questions about racial bias in U.S. policing.

Casebolt, a white officer, is seen in the video shouting obscenities at black youths in a multiracial crowd, placing a black youth in handcuffs, briefly pointing his gun at the youths and throwing a black teenage girl to the ground, burying his knees in her back to keep her prone.

"We are demanding that the officer be fired and be charged with assaulting the youth," said Dominique Alexander, the president of the Next Generation Action Network, which is organizing the rally.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/08/us-usa-texas-police-idUSKBN0OO1VJ20150608

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Calls mount to fire Texas officer who threw youth to ground (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2015 OP
Sounds good to me. malthaussen Jun 2015 #1
Paid vacation again? daleanime Jun 2015 #2
How dare those Black kids hanging out in that nice "white" neighborhood (sarcasm) redstatebluegirl Jun 2015 #3
good samsingh Jun 2015 #4
He should be fired, its time yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #5
The other two officers seemed far more reasonable mainer Jun 2015 #6
The two that took off on his command and returned with a bloodied Black child? KeepItReal Jun 2015 #9
Didn't see the kid with the bloodied face. You are right. mainer Jun 2015 #34
He's such a mean asshole. Helen Borg Jun 2015 #7
Unfortunately firing one policeman almost lets the force off the hook. erronis Jun 2015 #8
Someone called the police, correct? I wonder if this person was hoping to see some "action" Cal33 Jun 2015 #10
According to the story, the caller was a white woman who thought there were too many black kids. byronius Jun 2015 #12
By now most people know about the beatings and killings of unarmed blacks by police across the Cal33 Jun 2015 #27
I think you're absolutely correct. But don't forget Joe Horn. byronius Jun 2015 #31
According to which story? Fiendish Jun 2015 #29
there was a fight griffi94 Jun 2015 #52
Doubt it. Fiendish Jun 2015 #30
You could be right. It's probable that we don't yet have the full story. Cal33 Jun 2015 #44
Why call police to a children's pool party? marshall Jun 2015 #47
I agree he should be fired, but I don't see it happening. herding cats Jun 2015 #11
He acted like a complete out of control nut case. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #14
He was a complete out of control nutcase. herding cats Jun 2015 #17
McKinney is hardly a small community Not Sure Jun 2015 #19
I didn't realize it was a satellite community to the Dallas-Fort Worth region. herding cats Jun 2015 #22
dammit BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #16
Excellent gif for this situation and so many others lately! herding cats Jun 2015 #20
Yes, the backing of his white buddies... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #24
That cop in particular and the rest of the cops reminded me of a violent Keystone Cops episode. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #13
Yes, fire him, charge him, and chervilant Jun 2015 #15
Can you cite a source about a racist woman attacking the girl? Fiendish Jun 2015 #32
No. chervilant Jun 2015 #33
Uh huh. Fiendish Jun 2015 #36
Blah, blah, blah... chervilant Jun 2015 #37
Um. Fiendish Jun 2015 #38
Yawn... chervilant Jun 2015 #39
Wow. Fiendish Jun 2015 #40
Yeah, and chervilant Jun 2015 #42
Oooo, you turned Capslock on. You must mean business. Fiendish Jun 2015 #48
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #49
Not sure if I'm allowed to respond, but since someone pasted the jury decision... Fiendish Jun 2015 #55
Here is the video of that initial fight: tblue37 Jun 2015 #50
Thanks. Fiendish Jun 2015 #54
You STILL haven't searched for the information chervilant Jun 2015 #58
Dallas News. Video included mainer Jun 2015 #45
The hostess says so. Fiendish Jun 2015 #56
Google it ann--- Jun 2015 #51
Please make this happen Not Sure Jun 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #21
Is the name Casebolt? Or Nutcase? Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #23
I suspect he'll "step down" bluestateguy Jun 2015 #25
I was right. bluestateguy Jun 2015 #57
"police said started when scores of youths attended a party with a DJ NOLALady Jun 2015 #26
Check him for steroids! CanonRay Jun 2015 #28
Why are black teens "youths" BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #35
...as the movie "Crazy In Alabama" starts playing in my mind... Prisoner_Number_Six Jun 2015 #41
Pulling The Gun Sparhawk60 Jun 2015 #43
I urge you all to follow "Anonymous" on Twitter mainer Jun 2015 #46
Casebolt has resigned from the police force. mainer Jun 2015 #53

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. How dare those Black kids hanging out in that nice "white" neighborhood (sarcasm)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:14 PM
Jun 2015

Who is the dumb looking White guy in shorts who seems to be blocking the video? A neighbor who called the cops?

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
5. He should be fired, its time
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jun 2015

That communities start firing cops who do their job using only excessive force. These guys need to weeded out of the Police Departments. Cops should be required to take more training as well. Police Academy should be mandatory.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
6. The other two officers seemed far more reasonable
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jun 2015

One of them calmly talking to the kids. I'm sure they thought Casebolt was way out of control, too. He almost seemed hyped up on steroids or something.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
9. The two that took off on his command and returned with a bloodied Black child?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:59 PM
Jun 2015

The same kid that dared to challenge the cop's aggression against the young lady.

He took off running when the cop pulled his weapon and started to point it at him. He returned with a bloodied face. What did those two cops do to him?

erronis

(15,287 posts)
8. Unfortunately firing one policeman almost lets the force off the hook.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015

Who hired this creep? Who trained him? What organization (FOP?) condones this type of action?

Just like any other organization, the whole lot of them should stand trial.
Whoops, we only do that for some mobsters, not the banksters, military, radical right, etc.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. Someone called the police, correct? I wonder if this person was hoping to see some "action"
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jun 2015

result from the call. I can't see any good reason for calling the police in the first place.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
12. According to the story, the caller was a white woman who thought there were too many black kids.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:49 PM
Jun 2015

Told them to 'go back to Section Eight housing'. Made up a fight-story later.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
27. By now most people know about the beatings and killings of unarmed blacks by police across the
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015

country. It's an excellent invitation for racists with a sadistic streak to call the police and hope
for, what to a sadist is, some entertainment.

I think policemen should be aware of the above.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
31. I think you're absolutely correct. But don't forget Joe Horn.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jun 2015

Who didn't bother to wait for the racist cops to arrive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy

Madness. I'm glad the cellphone video is helping, though. How many dead without investigation or question before the cellphone cam? Tens of thousands.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
29. According to which story?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:02 PM
Jun 2015

The Reuters article linked by the OP contains no information at all regarding who called the police, unless I'm missing it.

CNN is reporting that a security guard at the pool called police after the kids ignored his directives to leave. The pool is in a planned community. It doesn't outright say private or gated, but it may be. Either way, the HOA rules state that only two guests can be brought to the pool by someone who lives in the neighborhood.

Apparently, the party invitations got spread far and wide on social media, so far more people showed up than were supposed to be there. As I mentioned, they ignored the security guard's directions and jumped the fence. At this point, they're trespassing.

The way the officer reacted was completely unprofessional and out of line (and he needs to be held to account for it), but that doesn't negate the fact that these kids were trespassing and refused to leave when ordered to do so by a person with the authority to make that determination.

Don't make this out like it's some racist old white lady clutching her pearls and getting the vapors because "those people" showed up at her neighborhood pool. The reporting on the incident at this time doesn't bear out your assertion, so it looks like you're just trying to stir the pot for the sake of it.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
52. there was a fight
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jun 2015

it was started by the racist white lady who first told them to go back to their section 8 housing

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
30. Doubt it.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jun 2015

CNN is reporting that the call came from a security guard after the crowd of kids ignored his instructions to leave the pool. At that point, they're trespassing, unless they live in the neighborhood, or are one of the two people a resident is allowed to invite, per the HOA rules.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
47. Why call police to a children's pool party?
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jun 2015

the first step should be to call the parents if the kids get too rambunctious.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
11. I agree he should be fired, but I don't see it happening.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jun 2015

I read he's the VP of the local police union, a patrol supervisor and an instructor at the police academy. My gut says he's going to be protected because he's such an active member of the police community there.

That he's also the person who pulled a gun on kids at a pool party, and brutalized and traumatized a teenaged black girl at the behest of some racist neighbors can't really be held against him when he has such an impressive resume, after all. Or, so I've been reading on the internet at least. We shall see what transpires in the end, but his supporters are already out defending his reputation in force.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
17. He was a complete out of control nutcase.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jun 2015

Which is why he should be fired for his actions. You should never leave an out of control nutcase in such a position of power. It will inevitably lead to more problems down the road, even a community as small as that one.

Not Sure

(735 posts)
19. McKinney is hardly a small community
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

It's more or less connected to the greater Dallas-Fort Worth metro urban sprawl mega area. The attitudes reflected by this cop's actions are consistent with people I've encountered in this area over the years.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
22. I didn't realize it was a satellite community to the Dallas-Fort Worth region.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

I read in an article it had a population of just over 150k people, and was assuming based on that.

It's depressing to hear that this cops actions are representative of the attitudes of the population in the region, but it's not a surprise after some of what I've read today.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
20. Excellent gif for this situation and so many others lately!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

It's always possible that he will be fired still. It's just not as likely when you take into account his deep roots in the local police community.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
13. That cop in particular and the rest of the cops reminded me of a violent Keystone Cops episode.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:54 PM
Jun 2015

Could they have botched this any more thoroughly?

At least they didn't discharge their weapons. But they came close! Black teens were the obvious target. And for what!?

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
15. Yes, fire him, charge him, and
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jun 2015

charge the racist woman who assaulted that youngling and started the entire episode.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
32. Can you cite a source about a racist woman attacking the girl?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:07 PM
Jun 2015

Nothing I've read about this incident mentions any such thing as a precipitating factor.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
33. No.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jun 2015

I'm confident you can do your own research, and view the various videos captured by the witnesses to the event.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
36. Uh huh.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jun 2015

If you make the assertion, it's on you to provide proof of some variety to back up said assertion. It's not my job to do research to back up or disprove your assertion.

I've viewed the videos that the major news outlets are reporting on. None of those videos depicts, nor does the reporting mention, any kind of assault prior to the officer going off on the girl. If an assault had taken place, I'm confident that it'd be reported by the news outlets devoting coverage to the story.

TL;DR: The onus is on you to cite your sources to back up your assertion, or it didn't happen.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
37. Blah, blah, blah...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:47 PM
Jun 2015

You just go right on telling yourself that.

Here, just because I happened to run across it on fb. You're lucky -- I don't play these childish games with members who've been here a while; please don't expect it in future:

One of the white adults who assaulted black teenagers and called them racial slurs at a pool party in the suburbs of Dallas, Texas is Tracey Carver-Allbritton, a home loan officer for Bank of America. Leave her a review: http://bit.ly/1FFKV96
Send a message to Bank of America's HR director and demand they fire Carver-Allbritton for assaulting a child: andrea.smith@bankofamerica.com


You can read more just about ANYWHERE on the inner tubes. Try it.
 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
38. Um.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jun 2015

I'm sorry, but Facebook is not what I'd call a reputable source of news. You make an assertion that radically alters the dynamic of this incident, and for proof you offer... some random Joe's post on Facebook? Seriously? That's laughable. Why not just cite Wikipedia while you're at it?

You started off with "you can view the various videos captured by witnesses to the event," and when pressed to back up your assertion, you then offer some random copy/paste from Facebook? You only moved the goalposts a little bit there.

In any case, your assertion is just hot air until you provide a citation that'd pass muster in a junior high research paper.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
40. Wow.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jun 2015

What a smashing rebuttal, chock-full of facts and evidence. You must have been a holy terror in your junior high debate society. I stand in awe of your masterful performance.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
42. Yeah, and
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:27 PM
Jun 2015

I'm bored by your predictable and puerile posts. I have just perused three other OPs about the racist white women who fueled this altercation. Too bad you're so invested in derisive posts that you cannot take the time to see the evidence you demand of me.

GO AWAY.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
48. Oooo, you turned Capslock on. You must mean business.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:20 AM
Jun 2015

Just so you know, the SOP in any debate or argument is to provide evidence or proof to back up your assertions. If you just spout whatever you want, and provide no evidence to back it up, then don't be surprised when people call you out on it, especially regarding a situation like this.

As it happens, I did research it a bit. CNN quotes a witness who mentions a "fight between a mom and a girl" in passing. Reuters mentions nothing of the sort. The only news source that backs up the assertion you're making is... Fox News.

So I'll grant you, yes, someone out there said a fight happened and a racially-charged remark was made. Given the utter absence of such inflammatory and potentially sensational witness testimony from other media outlets, I'm inclined to question it.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
49. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jun 2015
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Fiendish

(47 posts)
55. Not sure if I'm allowed to respond, but since someone pasted the jury decision...
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

You get what you give. I made a simple request to the other person: back up your assertion with something other than your words. They responded with snark and attitude, so I responded in kind. It really is that simple.

Also, some of the juror responses are just baffling. Because I asked for facts, rather than assertions and rumors propagated via Facebook, I'm a bigoted troll? Because I asked for something concrete in order to form a reasoned conclusion, I'm a bigoted troll?

This is the second time I've run into this attitude as a new user here. If I dare to question the already-formed opinions of other people, especially in a situation like this where visceral reactions are very understandable, I'm somehow "not left-leaning enough"? When did operating from logic and reason become a right-wing position?

Again, I dunno if I'm even "allowed" to respond to a jury decision paste, but I'm really trying to understand the dynamic on DU. Thus far, it seems an awful lot like questioning the dominant opinion is viewed as wrong. Not something I'd associated with being left-wing, honestly.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
54. Thanks.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

That's what I was asking for. None of the major news outlets were carrying or referencing this video as of this morning. Though it starts when they're already hands-on with each other, so no indication of who started the altercation.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
58. You STILL haven't searched for the information
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:31 PM
Jun 2015

about the two white women whose racist comments started this brouhaha?!?

Poor wee mannie: go have a look...it's all over the inner tubes now. You shouldn't have any trouble finding it.

 

Fiendish

(47 posts)
56. The hostess says so.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jun 2015

That doesn't make it so. It seems to me that it's equally likely a 19-year-old would bend the truth to protect her friends as it is that a white woman in Texas made a racist remark.

I'm sure the woman in question would deny having done so, and absent hard evidence to the contrary, it's a wash.

Not Sure

(735 posts)
18. Please make this happen
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jun 2015

I would like to see a series of firings of fascist thug police. These assholes deserve nothing but contempt.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
25. I suspect he'll "step down"
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

Make it look like a graceful retirement.

And of course he'll get a fat (taxpayer funded) pension.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
26. "police said started when scores of youths attended a party with a DJ
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jun 2015

DJ at a community's pool and refused requests to leave."

It seems to me that the incident started when the young woman was attacked by two women.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
28. Check him for steroids!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

Looks like 'roid rage to me. With a splash of good old fashioned racism on the side.

BumRushDaShow

(129,067 posts)
35. Why are black teens "youths"
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jun 2015

and white teens, "teens"? There is an obsessive abusive code talk that some media have fired up over the past decade, that not unlike their use of the term "inner city", serves to invoke a stereotype.

Prisoner_Number_Six

(15,676 posts)
41. ...as the movie "Crazy In Alabama" starts playing in my mind...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:37 PM
Jun 2015

Is fiction turning into fact, or is fact turning into fiction?

I'm so confused...

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
43. Pulling The Gun
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:23 AM
Jun 2015

To me, the cop pulling out his gun was way over the top and deserves jail time. He was facing a group of unruly kids, not a mob of attackers. And what was his plan for the gun? Was he going to shot a bunch of unarmed, and no-threatening kids?

I know I keep beating the "what would the punishment be if you or I did the same" drum. But really, we would be facing serous jail time for doing what that cop did.

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