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TexasTowelie

(112,442 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:45 AM Jun 2015

Kansas House considers new tax plan after governor's plea

Source: AP

TOPEKA, Kan. -- Top Republicans were pressing the Kansas House early Friday morning to approve a new plan for raising taxes hours after top aides to GOP Gov. Sam Brownback warned them that failing to erase a budget deficit risked funding for universities and invited a downgrading of the state's bond ratings.

Legislators in past years backed the GOP governor by slashing personal income taxes in an effort to stimulate the economy, but those policies contributed to a budget deficit that ballooned this year.

Brownback was forced Thursday to publicly plead with Republican legislators to increase the state's sales and cigarette taxes to balance the next state budget. His pitch — and his aides' warnings that he would otherwise have to take drastic action early next week — pushed GOP lawmakers into tinkering with a plan that had failed early Thursday in the House by a wide margin. They considered a package of two bills.

"Time's running out," said Republican Rep. Rick Billinger, of Goodland. "We can't go any longer."

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article23827303.html

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Kansas House considers new tax plan after governor's plea (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2015 OP
Yet a democratic Governor in Minnesota just started his term as Governor raising taxes and... LynneSin Jun 2015 #1
Turns out you're being too easy on KS on the unemployment thing... HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #5
My apologizes to the good people of Minnesota. 3.7% and that was back in March LynneSin Jun 2015 #8
IMO, prying Dayton away from the people of MN is gonna take a lot of leverage! HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #12
So he cuts income taxes and raises sales taxes nuxvomica Jun 2015 #2
They don't understand that. Raising the sales taxes makes people buy more online or not at all. LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #6
I still can't believe Kansans reelected these fools perdita9 Jun 2015 #3
They just vote republican leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #13
There is some evidence that there were some irregularities in the voting and vote counting. -none Jun 2015 #14
Irregularities in recent KS election studied by KS statistician. Stevepol Jun 2015 #18
Thank you. -none Jun 2015 #19
Let me guess - tax cuts for the rich remain and douggg Jun 2015 #4
Whatever path is followed you can be sure that the wealthy and corporate friends will not suffer Scalded Nun Jun 2015 #7
The rich weren't suffering before they got their massive tax cut. tridim Jun 2015 #11
Good luck, Kansas MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #9
People just can't think about ... ananda Jun 2015 #10
I agree. jalan48 Jun 2015 #15
What I read is that income taxes were slashed and now he wants Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #16
Of course, regressive is the only way the GOP knows... Gloria Jun 2015 #17

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
1. Yet a democratic Governor in Minnesota just started his term as Governor raising taxes and...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:03 AM
Jun 2015

now their state is one of the healthiest states budget-wise in the nation. Unemployment is down to 4% and there a surplus the state government which could be turned around to create jobs to help rebuild infrastructure. Oh and their minimum wage is going up to $9.50/hour.

If I had to move from Delaware and forced to live in either Kansas or Minnesota guess which state I would pick to live!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. Turns out you're being too easy on KS on the unemployment thing...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jun 2015

MN unemployment was reported -under- 4%, at 3.7% in March.

Walker was absolutely certain that WI would be pilfering jobs from MN with lower taxes. Mostly it hasn't gone that way.

Managing complex systems using simple 'obvious' ideologies works poort when the system response is actually counter intuitive to the ideology.








LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
8. My apologizes to the good people of Minnesota. 3.7% and that was back in March
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jun 2015

I mean that is totally unheard of in any economy to be that low. Pretty much if someone wants a job they are going to find one.

Sometimes I think I'd like to see Mark Dayton run for President. If he could do to the United States what he's done to Minnesota!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. IMO, prying Dayton away from the people of MN is gonna take a lot of leverage!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

They know they have a good thing.

nuxvomica

(12,444 posts)
2. So he cuts income taxes and raises sales taxes
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:41 AM
Jun 2015

That's pure wealth redistribution but from the poor to the rich and it's not going to save the state's economy. In fact, it could make things worse by reducing consumption.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
6. They don't understand that. Raising the sales taxes makes people buy more online or not at all.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:22 AM
Jun 2015

They will have to have school tax holidays so that the people can afford school supplies. Cities have to raise city and county taxes to make up for less state turn back funds. All this is happening because the states are not getting that much from the feds any more. Raising local taxes usually only raises the crime rate, which they are wanting to do for some reason.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
3. I still can't believe Kansans reelected these fools
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:41 AM
Jun 2015

I'd feel bad about it, but they're getting what they voted for.

-none

(1,884 posts)
14. There is some evidence that there were some irregularities in the voting and vote counting.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:34 AM
Jun 2015

The polling did not match the outcome.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
18. Irregularities in recent KS election studied by KS statistician.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jun 2015

Here's an article that the lady, Beth Clarkson, has had published in the Royal Statistical Society (UK). Unless you're up on statistical theory there's a lot of heavy reading, but the main ideas are clear: the alleged vote count just doesn't smell right, statistically speaking.

http://www.statslife.org.uk/significance/politics/2288-how-trustworthy-are-electronic-voting-systems-in-the-us

douggg

(239 posts)
4. Let me guess - tax cuts for the rich remain and
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:43 AM
Jun 2015

tax hikes for the regular family are coming.

Why not negate the previous tax cuts?

What!? And punish the rich?

Scalded Nun

(1,240 posts)
7. Whatever path is followed you can be sure that the wealthy and corporate friends will not suffer
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:40 AM
Jun 2015

Pleading, begging, crying...for more taxes that affect poor and middle-class.

Why worry about defunding universities when you are closing all of the public schools?

That man is a blight upon Kansas in particular and humanity in general.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
11. The rich weren't suffering before they got their massive tax cut.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:06 AM
Jun 2015

But the poor and middle class was and is suffering in Kansas.

Brownback doesn't care because he sold his soul long ago.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
10. People just can't think about ...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:00 AM
Jun 2015

... the actual horrific inhuman consequences of the unbridled conservative id
without any liberal counterbalance.

I think there must be some sort of glamor around the conservative ideology
that puts out a picture of the world that doesn't really exist, and the way
the ideology works makes people see what isn't there or else think it's right
around the corner if they're just -- conservative enough -- but enough is
never enough... and the people and the officials keep moving farther to the
right into cloud cuckooland.

I think Obama has fallen prey to this kind of magical thinking as well.

jalan48

(13,886 posts)
15. I agree.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:38 AM
Jun 2015

The average Republican voter hears tax cuts and starts jumping for joy. They don't understand that when they save $200 per year big corporations and the wealthy are saving millions. I think conservatives are basically cheapskates who want to pay zero taxes and yet get the benefits of living in our society.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
16. What I read is that income taxes were slashed and now he wants
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jun 2015

to raise sales and cig taxes ..................
both are regressive

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