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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:55 PM Jun 2015

Officials: Second hack exposed military and intel data

Source: AP

Hackers linked to China have gained access to the sensitive background information submitted by intelligence and military personnel for security clearances, U.S. officials said Friday, describing a cyberbreach of federal records dramatically worse than first acknowledged.

The forms authorities believed may have been stolen en masse, known as Standard Form 86, require applicants to fill out deeply personal information about mental illnesses, drug and alcohol use, past arrests and bankruptcies. They also require the listing of contacts and relatives, potentially exposing any foreign relatives of U.S. intelligence employees to coercion. Both the applicant's Social Security number and that of his or her cohabitant is required.

In a statement, the White House said that on June 8, investigators concluded there was "a high degree of confidence that ... systems containing information related to the background investigations of current, former and prospective federal government employees, and those for whom a federal background investigation was conducted, may have been exfiltrated."

"This tells the Chinese the identities of almost everybody who has got a United States security clearance," said Joel Brenner, a former top U.S. counterintelligence official. "That makes it very hard for any of those people to function as an intelligence officer. The database also tells the Chinese an enormous amount of information about almost everyone with a security clearance. That's a gold mine. It helps you approach and recruit spies."

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Officials: Second hack exposed military and intel data (Original Post) Zorro Jun 2015 OP
I'm really glad that they have a high degree of confidence, under these challenging circumstances. NBachers Jun 2015 #1
LOL ! Angel Martin Jun 2015 #2
Fear not! Hugin Jun 2015 #7
Isn't the Snowald Cabal absolutely OUTRAGED that Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #3
Snowden wrote an OP ed saying they won... joshcryer Jun 2015 #4
Only the elite can have privacy. The rest of us are human resources. nt valerief Jun 2015 #5
At least the Secretry of State had secure email! Sancho Jun 2015 #6
Exactly nichomachus Jun 2015 #9
Actually, it was Bill Clinton's server... Sancho Jun 2015 #10
So, 15 year old technology nichomachus Jun 2015 #12
Who said things haven't changed... Sancho Jun 2015 #13
This seems like a big deal 6chars Jun 2015 #8
LOL it's Snowdens fault... Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #11

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
1. I'm really glad that they have a high degree of confidence, under these challenging circumstances.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:56 AM
Jun 2015

Sounds like they're being robustly proactive in assuring us of the non-contestability of the synergies involved in this event.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
2. LOL !
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:27 AM
Jun 2015

i think you have been in the same meetings i have.

it is a mistake to put all this data in one place. If each Dept and Agency had it's own list then the next Manning or Snowden could not get it all from one file.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
7. Fear not!
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:22 AM
Jun 2015

Contractors have been secured! Litigation management is underway! The healing can begin!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. Isn't the Snowald Cabal absolutely OUTRAGED that
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jun 2015

one nation violated the personal freedoms of everyday citizens of a foreign nation??

Isn't our privacy a "human right?" or is that rhetoric only reserved for NSA stories??

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
4. Snowden wrote an OP ed saying they won...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:46 AM
Jun 2015

...which for those of us who are against all forms of surveillance (be it corporate or government) was pretty damn silly.

I support what Snowden did but not how he went about it, and I think it was all a cash grab by others in those circles.

And I don't see any significant changes due to it.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
10. Actually, it was Bill Clinton's server...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jun 2015

and it was protected and backed up (first by Google, then by McAffee). Bill also had a professional IT employee from his days as President. They've been really quiet about who set up the security, but a couple years ago an AP reporter published an article about the setup that had a link to, but it's not available now - so it was scrubbed after the emails became an issue.

In that article they reported there were back ups of the server, so likely they still exist. They also described encryption. Of course, the software and technology and hackers have changed a lot as things evolve.

It seems that whatever they had was safer than the government computers! As far as reported, not a single Blackberry message or email has ever surfaced other than the 55,000 that were turned over to the State Department years ago. Of course, any messages sent or received were captured by the other end. To date, no message has surfaced that someone said was NOT included in the 55,000. The GOP operatives have tried for a long time to find something "missing" and haven't. That means that if she wanted to keep a secret - BOTH sides of the messaging had to be secure and invisible to any government capture.

Whatever she was doing was either very effective, or else there's nothing there except wedding plans and a yoga schedule. Maybe both was true.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
13. Who said things haven't changed...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jun 2015

what she did at the time seemed to work.

For that matter, whatever she's doing now seems to be working.

Clearly it's frustrated the GOPers!

The federal government can't protect their own secret databases. If I was the S0S, I wouldn't trust the government system either.

You realize of course, that the State Department has a parallel system for anything they want to keep secret that they've maintained for a while. They don't reveal what it is, but several SoS's reported that they used it instead of email for all secret messages.

Likely the secure system evolves over time, but even if Hillary used carrier pigeons or pony express, it wouldn't matter as long as it was routine and not labelled secret.

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