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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:39 AM Jun 2015

The US is close to making a huge announcement about Cuba

Source: Reuters

The US is close to making a huge announcement about Cuba
Reuters
Jun. 12, 2015, 9:03 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration is expected to announce an agreement with Cuba in early July to reopen embassies and restore diplomatic relations severed more than five decades ago, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said on Friday.

The two sides hope to conclude the deal by the first week of next month, clearing the way for Secretary of State John Kerry to visit Havana soon afterwards for a flag-raising ceremony to upgrade the U.S. Interests Section to a full-scale embassy, the sources said.

Since a breakthrough between the two former Cold War rivals announced in December, negotiators have settled all but a few differences and were confident they would soon be resolved, several sources told Reuters.

They said the exact timetable for the formal embassy opening was unclear because of Kerry's recovery from a broken leg suffered in a May 31 biking accident in France, as well as the looming June 30 deadline for a final nuclear deal with Iran, which would dominate Kerry's schedule over the next weeks.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-exclusive-us-cuba-deal-expected-in-early-july-to-restore-ties-reopen-embassies---sources-2015-6#ixzz3cvhKCGZw

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The US is close to making a huge announcement about Cuba (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2015 OP
This makes us openly happy, and the far right happy in private DFW Jun 2015 #1
It's too bad there won't be any funds to actually upgrade the place davidpdx Jun 2015 #2
That was my first thought as well BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #7
Yep Recursion Jun 2015 #3
Been saying this for a decade, here. joshcryer Jun 2015 #4
The Cuban Embargo secondvariety Jun 2015 #5
Even dumber than enacting it geek tragedy Jun 2015 #6
Cool! 47of74 Jun 2015 #8
When we open trade relations, and we will, shit's going to get complicated jmowreader Jun 2015 #9
The sooner ths happens the better. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #10

DFW

(54,409 posts)
1. This makes us openly happy, and the far right happy in private
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:45 AM
Jun 2015

When the cameras are off and the microphones hidden away, and all the "anti-kommanist" rhetoric is put back in its bottle, the radical right sees Haytts, Marriotts, and Holiday Inns plus Hertz and Avis at Martí Airport, which is probably looking to award some big contract to expand the number of runways right about now.

If you can get down there as soon as diplomatic relations have been restored, do it. Within two years of restoring diplomatic relations, I'll bet not even the Cubans will recognize the place.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
2. It's too bad there won't be any funds to actually upgrade the place
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:02 AM
Jun 2015

My guess is they'll have to make due with whatever building they have until we have a Congress that is willing to spend money on an embassy. First things first of course, get the agreement and have a ceremony. The rest will have to wait until 2017.

BumRushDaShow

(129,109 posts)
7. That was my first thought as well
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:04 AM
Jun 2015

Congress has to allocate funding for it and has threatened to explicitly block any for Cuba. However there are general "embassy maintenance" lump sum lines in the current State Dept. appropriations, so they might be able to pull it off, assuming they haven't spent it all already (and in this case, the money rolls into later fiscal years until it's all gone based on the way it is written). When searching through the document (which was an Omnibus appropriations), the main prohibition related to Cuba was pretty much associated with direct aid/assistance (not counting the cultural exchange stuff) and frequent mention of Guantanamo, but nothing about the embassy (which was probably never even on their radar when this was enacted versus where we are today with respect to relations with Cuba). So in actuality, there is no explicit prohibition re: Cuba. I expect whatever they are working on for 2016 is probably going to include some sort of prohibition slid in there but that could be vetoed along with most of the garbage the GOP puts together.

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EMBASSY SECURITY, CONSTRUCTION, AND MAINTENANCE

For necessary expenses for carrying out the Foreign Service Buildings Act of 1926 (22 U.S.C. 292–303), preserving, maintaining, repairing, and planning for buildings that are owned or directly leased by the Department of State, renovating, in addition to funds otherwise available, the Harry S Truman Building, and carrying out the Diplomatic Security Construction Program as authorized, $822,755,000, to remain available until expended as authorized, of which not to exceed $25,000 may be used for domestic and overseas representation expenses as authorized: Provided, That none of the funds appropriated in this paragraph shall be available for acquisition of furniture, furnishings, or generators for other departments and agencies. In addition, for the costs of worldwide security upgrades, acquisition, and construction as authorized, $1,240,500,000, to remain available until expended: Provided, That not later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit to the Committees on Appropriations the proposed allocation of funds made available under this heading and the actual and anticipated proceeds of sales for all projects in fiscal year 2015.

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http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113hr83enr/pdf/BILLS-113hr83enr.pdf - PDF pg. 447

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
4. Been saying this for a decade, here.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jun 2015

No one believed me. No one thought it was possible. But it's happening.

And I'm glad Obama is going to get credit for it.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
5. The Cuban Embargo
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:27 AM
Jun 2015

has to be one of the dumbest things our politicians have ever enacted. And that's saying a lot.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
9. When we open trade relations, and we will, shit's going to get complicated
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

Cuba exports sugar and products made from it (primarily rum), and products made from tobacco.

Sugar is going to be a moderate pain in the ass. The best place to grow cane sugar is on an island because it responds well to that kind of atmosphere - hence, the cane sugar we eat in the States usually comes from Hawaii. Cuba has the island atmosphere AND lower labor costs. Fortunately, sugar is a commodity so no branding issues should arise - Domino Sugar can fill its bags with Cuban sugar as easily as they can American. The only problem is price, because the Cubans could easily put the Hawaiians out of business by undercutting them. This could easily be fixed by getting the Cubans to agree to sell their sugar to the US for the same price per ton Hawaiian companies receive. ("You mean you WANT us to raise our prices? What a country!&quot That's cool though because the number-one sugar product the US wants from Cuba is their rum...which is good enough that they can charge whatever they want for it.

Tobacco is the real problem - because cigars are a branded product, and the most famous brands of hand-rolled cigars sold in the US come from companies whose founders defected from Cuba with a bag of seed and a set of cigar-band plates, but without the people who knew how to cure tobacco and roll cigars. We therefore run into the situation where companies on the mainland like Altadis (the biggest cigar maker in the free world) are producing since 1960 the same brands the Cubans have been making since the 19th Century.

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