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Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:14 PM Jun 2015

Ryan: Obama must sway lots of Democrats on trade measure

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A leading Republican supporter of trade legislation that House Democrats drove to defeat said Sunday that President Barack Obama must sway members of his own party if he wants to save the measure.

"The Democrats abandoned their president," said Rep. Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. "It was stunning that they would do this to the leader of their party."

Union-backed Democrats struck a blow to Obama's trade agenda on Friday, voting down a favorite job-retraining program in order to jeopardize the package's main component: special negotiating authority for Obama. Other presidents have won the ability to propose trade agreements that Congress can ratify or reject, but not amend.

The administration is working to finish trade negotiations with Pacific Rim countries including Japan and Canada. Other deals could follow.

FULL story at link.



President Barack Obama and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of Calif. leave meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill in Washington, Friday, June 12, 2015. The president made an 11th-hour appeal to dubious Democrats on Friday in a tense run-up to a House showdown on legislation to strengthen his hand in global trade talks (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/49576b8b9bcb4a308366b1d1dfcaad2d/ryan-obama-must-sway-lots-democrats-trade-measure

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Ryan: Obama must sway lots of Democrats on trade measure (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2015 OP
My take - djean111 Jun 2015 #1
The President has abandoned the people. ananda Jun 2015 #2
+1000000 CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #8
Why doesn't Obama be honest with the American people and officially switch parties? bowens43 Jun 2015 #3
Yeah right, Lyin' Ryan Liberalagogo Jun 2015 #4
We must sway voter in Ryan's district Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #5
Funny that Mnpaul Jun 2015 #6
Obama Not Ruling Out U.S. Military Action In Congress (Courtesy of Demeter in WEE) Fuddnik Jun 2015 #7
Because we give a &#$@ what Paul Ryan thinks.....why? Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #9
So explain to me WHY we need a trade partnership at all? The US always managed 1monster Jun 2015 #10
guess it's an easy transition from self-described "Reagan Democrat" to "Paul Ryan Democrat" to ... MisterP Jun 2015 #11
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. My take -
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jun 2015

"The President abandoned the Democrats ," said Rep. Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. "It was stunning that he would do this to his party."

ananda

(28,864 posts)
2. The President has abandoned the people.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jun 2015

SOME Democrats are sticking with the people they
were elected to represent.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
3. Why doesn't Obama be honest with the American people and officially switch parties?
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jun 2015

and we have so many democrats begging for more the same with hillary........

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
5. We must sway voter in Ryan's district
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jun 2015

People whose intellectual growth was stunted by reading Atlas Shrugged as teenagers don't belong in the halls of power. Mr. Ryan should have done something less harmful to himself and those around him -- like smoking dope.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
7. Obama Not Ruling Out U.S. Military Action In Congress (Courtesy of Demeter in WEE)
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.theonion.com/article/obama-not-ruling-out-us-military-action-in-congres-34946



WASHINGTON—Following years of continued fighting and disorder in the troubled region, President Barack Obama revealed today that he has not ruled out taking immediate and decisive military action in the United States Congress.

Admitting that diplomatic outreach efforts in the area have so far proven unsuccessful, the president claimed that his administration is weighing the feasibility of committing combat troops to both the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives in order to bring lasting peace and stability to the chaos-afflicted legislature.

“We have not yet made a decision as to how we are going to address this rapidly deteriorating situation, but at this point I can tell you that military action is indeed on the table,” Obama told reporters at a morning press conference, emphasizing that he is “deeply troubled” by the escalating hostilities and diminishing prospects for unity on the Congressional floor. “Clearly, sending our young men and women into this tumultuous war zone is not ideal, and I still hope to resolve the situation through peaceful means. But as the conflict continues to worsen, it becomes increasingly evident that the deployment of our armed forces may be our only real option.”
Military officials say an intervention in Congress would likely involve a three-pronged attack.

“We cannot stand idly by and allow this senseless mayhem to continue,” the president continued.

According to international observers, the United States Capitol ranks as among the most turbulent and unstable regions in the world, dominated by warring factions of rogue lawmakers who have shown neither the ability nor the willingness to peacefully resolve their differences.

As conditions worsen by the day, the president confirmed to reporters that he and his military advisors are currently evaluating the merits of a military option, suggesting that his administration has left open the possibility of toppling the hostile, unpredictable leadership currently reigning over the legislative assembly and restoring order to the Capitol building.

“Our efforts at resolving this conflict through conventional, non-military means have not only failed but seemingly emboldened extremists in the region,” said Obama, noting that while the United States does have some allies on the ground within the Senate, the administration has been almost completely cut off from the House for some time. “Right now there are millions of people who are hopelessly trapped under Congress’ corrupt rule, and it’s doubtful we’ll see any kind of progress in the area without either military intervention or a full-scale revolution, which is unlikely.”
The nation’s armed forces are currently awaiting order for a possible invasion of the rogue U.S. legislature.

While the White House continues to explore the use of armed forces in Congress, some military experts have expressed doubts as to the prospects of such an operation, saying that a full-scale invasion of the Capitol building represents a costly and uncertain venture that could hamstring the U.S. for the foreseeable future.

“We may have to accept the fact that the deep fissures afflicting Congress are, at present, unfixable, and that we’ll just have to wait the half-century or so it could take for the legislative body to achieve some kind of stability naturally from within,” said retired U.S. Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Lawrence Harley, adding that the deep divisions affecting Congress may in fact be endemic to the entire Washington region. “We are seeing similar levels of chaos and infighting in the Supreme Court and in many of the smaller cities and towns where extremists loyal to members of Congress have gained significant ground. Are we really prepared to risk American lives for what could be a lost cause?”

“Besides, the majority of the American people are barely even aware of what’s going on over there,” Harley added.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
9. Because we give a &#$@ what Paul Ryan thinks.....why?
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jun 2015

And did the president "abandon his own party" when the party opposed the austere Ryan budget?

And I'm sure Pauly Ryan's sudden concern about his opposition party's unity has nothing to do with promotion of a plutocrat gravy train of a trade deal. Sure........

This wanker is too much for Hollywood.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
10. So explain to me WHY we need a trade partnership at all? The US always managed
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

trade just fine before all of these grandiose trade partnership which only seem to sock it to us rather than help. How does having a huge trade partnership help the US?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. guess it's an easy transition from self-described "Reagan Democrat" to "Paul Ryan Democrat" to ...
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jun 2015

of course if you don't like it you're a Firebagger dupe who's handing the country over to the 100% Pubs (instead of the fractional Pubs)

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