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AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:37 AM Jun 2015

Breaking: The FBI is investigating the Cardinals for hacking into the Astros’ computer system

Source: NBC Sports



You’ll recall that last year someone hacked into the Astros’ “Ground Control” database, which is the internal communication and evaluation system. Among the stolen data — which was subsequently posted online — were internal discussions about a possible trade for Giancarlo Stanton last year, the leadup to the Bud Norris trade and discussions between the Astros and Yankees in which the Yankees offered Ichiro Suzuki to Houston for cash. Not the sort of stuff a team wants public.
Now, according to an exclusive report in the New York Times, the FBI has a suspect. The Best Suspect in Baseball:
Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials . . . The officials did not say which employees were the focus of the investigation or whether the team’s highest-ranking officials were aware of the hacking or authorized it. The investigation is being led by the F.B.I.’s Houston field office and has progressed to the point that subpoenas have been served on the Cardinals and Major League Baseball for electronic correspondence.
The Times reports that the impetus for this was both (a) concern that former Cards executive Jeff Luhnow took proprietary information with him when he left for Houston to become the Astros’ GM; and (b) lingering resentment over Lunhow’s tenure with the Cardinals, where he was reported to have been a polarizing figure. It was not a sophisticated hack, the Times reports. Rather, Cards employees referred to a master password list Luhnow used when with St. Louis, which used a similar computer system

Read more: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/16/breaking-the-fbi-is-investigating-the-cardinals-for-hacking-into-the-astros-computer-system/



I am going to enjoy all of this. A lot.
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Breaking: The FBI is investigating the Cardinals for hacking into the Astros’ computer system (Original Post) AngryAmish Jun 2015 OP
For a minute I thought the Vatican was behind it... different cardinals n/t cosmicone Jun 2015 #1
The Vatican could still be behind this though. ;) PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #7
My mind works like yours Sanity Claws Jun 2015 #15
Is this bigger than deflate gate? upaloopa Jun 2015 #2
It is a federal crime. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #3
If nothing else, this should remind us of the importance of changing our passwords regularly. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2015 #4
That wouldnt stop a hacker padfun Jun 2015 #12
I tried to explain something similar recently to someone here... Chan790 Jun 2015 #18
Unless they can tie Belichik sharp_stick Jun 2015 #6
I heard that the NFL was going to strip Brady naked Yavin4 Jun 2015 #10
You must be from Indiana .. or Seattle n/t cosmicone Jun 2015 #11
And half the women in Boston would die of heart attacks Arkana Jun 2015 #22
And a lot of men as well. n/t Yavin4 Jun 2015 #27
Money ball turbinetree Jun 2015 #5
The Cardinals? The squeaky-clean Cardinals?! KamaAina Jun 2015 #8
Hackardinals nt alp227 Jun 2015 #9
You are letting me down. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #13
Wow just wow. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #14
Normally, I am skeptical of plausable deniability. malthaussen Jun 2015 #16
If they went after PDs half as hard as they go after FIFA and the NFL... Iggo Jun 2015 #17
Really? THIS is what the FBI prioitizes? Good grief.... peacebird Jun 2015 #19
Corporate espionage AngryAmish Jun 2015 #20
What? Those STL Cards??? Gamecock Lefty Jun 2015 #21
Damn...The Cards had an eternal reputation as a classy organization Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #23
Those saying that this isn't a big deal are wrong alboe Jun 2015 #24
Wow, this new attorney general is fearless. Next she'll prove professional wrestling is fixed. yurbud Jun 2015 #25
There goes the next Cardinal Giveaway that is coming up,,,,,, benld74 Jun 2015 #26

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Is this bigger than deflate gate?
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:45 AM
Jun 2015

For me it is another one of those side issues that really don't matter. Sports just don't interest me

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
3. It is a federal crime.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jun 2015

Basically the Cardinals lost an employee ti Houston. The employee created a database at STL. He recreated it in Houston. STL tried his old password, it worked, they grabbed rhe database contents and posted it online.

Stupid ajd childish but very much a crume.

padfun

(1,787 posts)
12. That wouldnt stop a hacker
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jun 2015

The myth of hard hacking (trying billions of passwords until one fits) just isnt the way hackers get into systems. So if you didn't tell ANYONE your password, changing a password isn't going to make a different.

We have several different ways of hacking now days and one of the biggest ones now is social engineering. There are many drinkers, gamblers and such that can be persuaded to give their password. If they don't give it out in the first place, then they don't need to be changing it so often.

I'm not saying to never change your password, but rather just don't give it out. Several recent studies have shown that if you have to change your password too often, they you lose security as more people will have to write it down. They found that the optimal time was 6 months, not the two months that so many companies do now days. Unfortunately, the people who make policy aren't usually very tech savy.

I work in a 36 floor building and I can go to any cube and there is a 30% chance that I can find a password (under the keyboard, mousepad, coffee cup, behind a picture, etc...). Just be diligent and don't walk away while logged on, or DONT GIVE OUT YOUR PASSWORD. (You would be surprised how many people do give theirs out.)

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
18. I tried to explain something similar recently to someone here...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:46 PM
Jun 2015

not specifically about passwords but how those stupid "internet games" like porn-star name are actually attempts to obtain information typically used as security questions...like "name of first pet", "street you grew up on", "father's middle name", "mother's maiden name" and "name of your first school."

I got mocked for the effort.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
6. Unless they can tie Belichik
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jun 2015

and Brady to it somehow the average sports fan in this country will be sure to ignore it.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
10. I heard that the NFL was going to strip Brady naked
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jun 2015

and walk him down the streets of Boston with Goddell walking behind him ringing a bell and saying "Shame!".

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
16. Normally, I am skeptical of plausable deniability.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:08 PM
Jun 2015

However, I can see some geek in the Cardinal's data center idly wondering if he can hack the Astros based on the info given so far, and making the initial penetration without the knowledge of the front office. But if there is evidence that the Cardinals used such uncovered information, then higher management is clearly implicated.

-- Mal

Iggo

(47,566 posts)
17. If they went after PDs half as hard as they go after FIFA and the NFL...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jun 2015


Hey, I can dream, can't I?
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
20. Corporate espionage
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 03:08 PM
Jun 2015

How much is a winning baseball team worth?

StL is worth 1.4 billion. KC Royals are worth 700 million. STL is a perennial winner. Royals, except for lasr year, perennial loser.

Seems like 700 million reasons to stay competitive.

That said, while still a crime, might have just been a malicious prank.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Damn...The Cards had an eternal reputation as a classy organization
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jun 2015

Somewhere along the way they turned to the dark side...

alboe

(192 posts)
24. Those saying that this isn't a big deal are wrong
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jun 2015

These teams are worth billions. It's just the sane as a business hacking another business and stealing corporate info, very much a crime.

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