This article is way too nice. She's lying, plain and simple.

Doesn't identify with her parents for one thing. Must be bad blood there.

....must've been a hoot!

that's way above DU's pay grade. She's bonkers.

I feel sorry for her parents, it has to be horrible for them right now.

I had a crazy family member who pretended to be both Egyptian and Native American and varying times. He even got himself hired as a technical adviser on a Hollywood movie.

It's stupid and if one has the capacity should be embarrassing, but hardly a big deal.

The closest he ever came to India was Indiana but he made a decent living running as a India Guru up and down the East Coast in the late 1800s and early 1900s. If I remember the stories right he avoided people from India, they had no money (that is if he actually meet any, which some family members believe to be the case).

I have a perfectly sane family member who's trans and very happy and content that way, has a full-time job AND is getting a master's degree, has been happily married for 5 yrs., has lots of friends and is planning a family.

I think of this story as much the same. RD identifies as black but wasn't born that way, just as my fam member identifies as male but was born female. It makes sense that if she doesn't identify with her white abusive parents, she would look elsewhere for support and she found it among her black friends/family and now identifies as black.

Not saying she's not lying about some aspects of her story but what's a lie and what is her present reality as someone who identifies as Afr. American?

I feel sorry for her.

Your trans friend was, in all likelihood, born physiologically female but biochemically male. When it comes down to brain vs. genitals, guess which organ wins?

Let Rachel seek DNA testing so we can finally put this to rest.

HER son asked for a DNA test to prove that SHE is his mother.
This woman is severely disturbed.

Just get the test.

we can send her to Maury or Jerry Springer, where she and this irrelevant saga belongs?

hear about people like this woman!

And someday soon, they're going to pick me back up!

She's either mentally ill or simply a pathological liar. She's embarrassing her entire family.

can get bent. That her parents are imbeciles and maybe abusers doesn't give her license to lie the way she does. Tell me you're not defending her actions.

But I do understand that she is an abuse victim. As the article points out, abuse victims do hurt others and they do crazy things.

It is a shame that this story has become public. She should step out of the limelight and get the help she needs. She is right to shun her parents. But now that this is public, I wonder if she will ever acknowledge that she has a broken moral compass, needs to face her problems, take responsibility for them, and find a way to heal.

keep their children unless they go through extensive training and monitoring. Religion should never be allowed to excuse or extenuate parents who so damage their children.

Fundie wingnut parents and child abuse...

I think the rest of the story will unfold and make better sense eventually. Of course lying about race is not ok -- but I think there is much more going on here.

The truth would have been workable but she has left the realm of credibility.

What exactly are the statutes of limitations on ancestry?

If you go back far enough, we're all from Africa.

If you go back far enough, we're all fish!



People in this country need a whopping dose of general science!

I haven't read it yet

Study: Many self-identified white people have some African ancestry

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2014/12/22/Study-Many-self-identified-white-people-have-some-African-ancestry/5941419305079/


http://www.cell.com/ajhg/pdf/S0002-9297%2814%2900476-5.pdf

Great!


Even tho' my parents and my genes might indicate I am from northern European descent (Scotland)....and we all in the family have the physical traits that go with that.... I've decided:

I want to be Inuit!

This week anyway.

Next week..... maybe Arian!


I'm sure they will welcome me wholeheartedly.












BTW for the absurd humor impaired.

I'm beginning to think her parents may be gray.

But was it her long-form birth certificate?

She needs psych help, not a media frenzy. Whatever she was trying to get by posing as a black person, if she wants it bad enough that she will tell obvious lies in public and deny immutable facts about her own life - which she surely remembers, having lived it - then this is a mental illness.

her parents and anyone else involved resolve this on their own and off my news outlets?

At most it proves those two people are her legal parents, and if there is a race/ethnicity noted then it proves how they identified themselves at the time. It does not prove that they are her biological parents, and it does not prove the ancestry behind any of them.

However I do think Delezal is dodging the real issue. She should stick to explaining coherently and directly why and how she identifies herself as black. I would also like to hear her explain what she thinks is the difference between black and African-American. I noted that Matt Lauer kept using the term African-American in his questions to her, and she consistently responded using the term black. That suggests to me that she sees some difference and I would like to hear her explanation of that.

dna test because she would swear it has been doctored or tampered with she is into the persecution complex thing or a con artist one leave her to it

And you can't prove I don't have a Brazilian dollars in my bank account.

So there.

... sure, Rachel's AMERICAN birth certificate blames the Dolezals for her existence, but what about her KENYAN birth certificate?



A DNA test might give some hints, but I think it will prove that her ancestors were from AFRICA! Yeah, maybe 70,000 years ago, but still ...

and needs psychological help.


rocktivity

reveals itself, the more I'm sure she has some kind of problem(s) she needs to resolve and move on. She lied and is lying continually. Enough is enough. A white woman pretending to be black does smack of using privilege not afforded to all in this country as many have pointed out. It is a reflection of the american pathological obsession with race. She should not have done what she did. I'm 'mixed' race and after reading a couple of comments today related to that reality, I have to agree. She is wrong, in motivation and commission. No more to be said about this individual.

All I know about Rachel Dolezal is that I'm sure she's not my biological sister.

Aside from that I have no opinion.

guess she was left on their door step in Montana.

n/t

OVERKILL. now she has a publicist. Just want it to go away.

they'll beat their drums until the poor woman takes her own life in some really gruesome way. That would keep the story alive an extra couple of weeks at least.

Really.