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muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:05 PM Jun 2015

Greece says bailout deal is up to troika amid speculation over exit from EU

Source: The Guardian

Greece has put the onus on its creditors to prevent it being forced out of the single currency, warning that an economic collapse on a par with the Great Depression of the 1930s had left it broke and unable to pay its debts.

Athens announced on Wednesday that it had run out of money, and would not be able to pay €1.6bn (£1.15bn) owed to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) at the end of this month, on the eve of a meeting of eurozone finance ministers. The meeting is seen as the last realistic chance of striking a deal before Greece’s current bailout runs out in 12 days’ time.

The warning came as the governor of the Greek central bank said that Greece was on the brink of an “uncontrollable crisis” and warned that leaving the eurozone would also mean “exit … most likely from the European Union”. But the chances of a breakthrough on Thursday’s talks, in an increasingly hostile negotiating environment, were seen as remote.
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Martin Schulz, president of the European parliament, told the Guardian in an interview that there was no legal avenue for expelling a country from the eurozone and that dropping out of the 19-country eurozone would mean no longer being in the 28-country European Union.



Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/17/greece-says-bailout-deal-is-up-to-troika-amid-speculation-over-exit-from-eu



Still looks like an impasse.
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Greece says bailout deal is up to troika amid speculation over exit from EU (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 OP
Wait, how are there 28 countries in the European Union yet only 19 in the eurozone ?? cstanleytech Jun 2015 #1
That's how the Eurozone works - it's a subset of the EU muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #3
Ah, still it sounds weird to me that they kick out someone from the EU cstanleytech Jun 2015 #4
The trouble is they never made any plans for how any country could leave the eurozone muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #5
IMF = Largest Congame In The World Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #2

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
3. That's how the Eurozone works - it's a subset of the EU
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jun 2015

The UK and Denmark negotiated an opt-out when the Euro was designed (though Denmark keeps its currency within close limits of the Euro); countries that joined after that are meant to be working towards joining it, in theory, but Sweden doesn't want to, and has managed to avoid the process so far. Some others haven't met the convergence criteria yet.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
4. Ah, still it sounds weird to me that they kick out someone from the EU
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jun 2015

if they leave the Eurozone yet they are clearly allowing some countries to opt out entirely of joining it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
5. The trouble is they never made any plans for how any country could leave the eurozone
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jun 2015

I think the problem might be that, if the exit from the eurozone is 'messy', the idea of continued EU membership, where the poorer countries get some subsidies from the richer ones, doesn't look so logical, if it has involved default on debts to EU-related bodies. Whatever happens, they're going to have to negotiate it from scratch, and the goodwill they had when countries were entering may not exist any more.

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