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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:00 AM Jun 2015

NRA Board Member Blames Murdered Reverend For Death Of His Congregants In S.C. Church Mass Shooting

Source: Media Matters

National Rifle Association board member Charles L. Cotton wrote that the victims of a mass shooting in a Charleston, South Carolina church died because of Reverend Clementa Pinckney's advocacy for gun safety laws.

Pinckney, along with eight others, was killed by a gunman during a June 17 attack at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.

In 2013, Pinckney, who was also a South Carolina State Senator, introduced legislation to require more comprehensive background checks on gun sales and supported several other gun safety measures during his career as a legislator.

In a post on an online forum for Texas supporters of the concealed carry of handguns, Cotton wrote, "he [Rev. Pinckney] voted against concealed-carry. Eight of his church members who might be alive if he had expressly allowed members to carry handguns in church are dead. Innocent people died because of his position on a political issue."



Read more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/18/nra-board-member-blames-murdered-reverend-for-d/204057





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NRA Board Member Blames Murdered Reverend For Death Of His Congregants In S.C. Church Mass Shooting (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 OP
That didn't take long BronxBoy Jun 2015 #1
What was that about politicizing tragedies? BainsBane Jun 2015 #2
Yeah, it was definitely an over-the-top shitty thing to say. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #29
Actually, I like to see stuff like this - each time one of these idiots come out with a comment... George II Jun 2015 #3
The problem is that in recent years the furor ends without meaningful change. CBHagman Jun 2015 #31
Blame the victim. jwirr Jun 2015 #4
Come on humpers, defend your guy. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2015 #5
It's safe to say that no pro 2A member on this board will defend this waste of O2. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #12
No, they'll just make the same argument. jeff47 Jun 2015 #20
Yup alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #35
+1000. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #38
Now THIS marions ghost Jun 2015 #6
They claim that crap knowing its untrue. I am so angry right now.................. marble falls Jun 2015 #7
Gun Culture is not Civilized. onehandle Jun 2015 #8
I think the NRA may be looking for a new slogan... brooklynite Jun 2015 #9
The NRA is impossible to satirize. Orrex Jun 2015 #10
What a moronic POS, GGJohn Jun 2015 #11
Of course he did. They are nothing if not predictable. nt City Lights Jun 2015 #13
JUST as I predicted they'd spin it! Plucketeer Jun 2015 #14
One day, a gun nut is going to attend the NRA board meeting cosmicone Jun 2015 #15
Then you know what'll happen? durablend Jun 2015 #23
I've read that the NRA does not allow guns at their meetings csziggy Jun 2015 #33
How very rational cosmicone Jun 2015 #39
Worthless skin and bones. He's breathing our air and watering his lawn all day too! Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #16
Blaming the victims is an NRA modus operandi Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #17
Can't wait for what his fellow board member Ted Nugent has to say. Paladin Jun 2015 #18
And these guys never get shot. Kablooie Jun 2015 #19
Shut this Domestic Terrorist Hate Group down. SoapBox Jun 2015 #21
black communities all over the US should demand open carry wordpix Jun 2015 #22
Have they blamed Obama yet? n/t durablend Jun 2015 #24
What a monstrously EVIL piece of shit. gregcrawford Jun 2015 #25
Someone Needs To Strap This Asshole To A Chair/ Wash Mouth Out With Soap. TheMastersNemesis Jun 2015 #26
That is jaw dropping and infuriating. Lucky Luciano Jun 2015 #27
WOW. How does that santorum guzzler walk with balls that big? valerief Jun 2015 #28
I'd love to spit some beechnut in that dude's eyes. stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #30
Guess what you dumbfuck. world wide wally Jun 2015 #32
They wonder why we think they're vile shitheads alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #34
NRA = COWARDS Skittles Jun 2015 #36
omg Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #37

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
29. Yeah, it was definitely an over-the-top shitty thing to say.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jun 2015

I'm a RKBA advocate, but I call bullshit on anyone saying something like that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Actually, I like to see stuff like this - each time one of these idiots come out with a comment...
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jun 2015

....like that, I'm sure it pushes a few more who are on the fence over to the gun control side.

It may also shame some NRA supporters into giving up on them.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
31. The problem is that in recent years the furor ends without meaningful change.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jun 2015

During an anti-violence march on Capitol Hill just days after the Newtown massacre, staffers in a private-sector office were shouting at the participants, "Arm the teachers!"

In the months and years following the shooting there were news stories of school districts instituting procedures such as holding active-shooter survival drills and posting guards to screen little kids' lunch containers and backpacks.

[url]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/12/14/250744414/parents-say-school-security-has-increased-since-newtown-massacre[/url]

There was as well the usual hand-wringing about mental health care, but I haven't noticed that lawmakers have done anything to increase access or that communities are more likely to intervene before a disturbed member turns violent. If anyone has data to the contrary, I'd honestly like to hear about it.

But people have been buying up weapons, and multiple states have been actually loosening gun restrictions.

[url]http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/post-newtown-states-loosen-gun-restrictions.html[/url]

And it was possible for a woman to go on Capitol Hill and proclaim that the gun Adam Lanza used to kill staff and children at Sandy Hook Elementary School made women safer. Of course the first person Adam Lanza shot was his mother, who owned that AR-15.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/30/gayle-trotter-guns-make-women-safer/[/url]

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
8. Gun Culture is not Civilized.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jun 2015

'Chas' and his fellow mouthpieces for the gun industry will not be treated well in the history books.

Guns are the tools of, and a major symbol of racism.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
9. I think the NRA may be looking for a new slogan...
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jun 2015

"The only way to stop a white racist with a gun is a black with..."

no, that's not going to work.....

Orrex

(63,218 posts)
10. The NRA is impossible to satirize.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jun 2015

Whatever outlandish or preposterously vile statement one imagines they might say, they will certainly say something much worse.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. JUST as I predicted they'd spin it!
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jun 2015

If ONLY the congregants had been packin'. Every Joe, Jack 'n Jane needs a piece on their hip from the time they're old enough to pull it from the holster and fire it!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. One day, a gun nut is going to attend the NRA board meeting
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jun 2015

and open fire with automatic weapons.

Come to think of it -- it could be a dynamic beginning of a movie!!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
33. I've read that the NRA does not allow guns at their meetings
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jun 2015

And that they have metal detectors at the entrances.

No link, just what I have read here in the past.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
39. How very rational
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Jun 2015

I bet they do thorough background checks on their people as well....

</snark>

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
17. Blaming the victims is an NRA modus operandi
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jun 2015

What took them so long? I thought this would be yesterday's news already.

It isn't hard to figure out that concealed carry as the antidote to open carry is a recipe for disaster. But it will sell a lot of guns.

Paladin

(28,267 posts)
18. Can't wait for what his fellow board member Ted Nugent has to say.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jun 2015

DU gun militants, these are the people who are representing you and advancing your cause. Attempts to disassociate yourselves from them are futile.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
19. And these guys never get shot.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jun 2015

How can things be so wrong for so long with no possibility of it ever being corrected?
These guys will never ever suffer any negative consequences for these tragedies.

If there is a God he's white and racist.

world wide wally

(21,749 posts)
32. Guess what you dumbfuck.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jun 2015

Your "more guns will fix everything" bullshit doesn't work.
Never has...
Never will
So STFU and move to Syria or someplace where they use guns all the time.

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