It will be interesting to read the dissents

The RC church hasn't evolved on this or women's issues at all.

In fact, it was the Catholic contingent that I found a bit worrisome.

All's well, though--I'll take a close victory over none at all.

let alone close. think the abortion issue will be in danger now

With the exception of maybe Roberts, it came as no surprise to me who dissented.

My cousin will be thrilled!

"Not until it's the law of the land!"

Looks like I'll be taking some plane rides!!!

Who doesn't like a good wedding or two?

and he responded that he was "a little tearful" and thanked us for all our support (he got married 5 years ago). I know a whole community is probably experiencing a lot of mixed emotions right now - sheer joy, relief, exhaustion... !

"Good! Now you guys can be as miserable as the rest of us...and in all fifty states, toto!!!"



This is good for business, too! When MA legalized, there was an economic bump from all the weddings that happened after the law changed here. I'll bet the wedding planners, gown/tux rental/purchase places, country clubs and assorted banquet venues, florists, etc. are all doing cartwheels!

And there will definitely be a business bump! Marriage is a big business for sure!

What a relief.

All the right people are going to be upset. The rest of us PARTY!!!

and are using their ACA benefits today to try to regain them.

Hearing aid and SAVOR it !!

...but thank gawd it went the correct way!

And rethug heads explodes in breaking news everywhere!

way too close but so glad it's done.

The Obama administration had urged the court to find that the Constitution requires such restrictions be struck down, and Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr. made the case on behalf of the administration at the court’s oral arguments in April.


“In a world in which gay and lesbian couples live openly as our neighbors, they raise their children side by side with the rest of us, they contribute fully as members of the community . . . it is simply untenable — untenable — to suggest that they can be denied the right of equal participation in an institution of marriage, or that they can be required to wait until the majority decides that it is ready to treat gay and lesbian people as equals,” he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gay-marriage-and-other-major-rulings-at-the-supreme-court/2015/06/25/ef75a120-1b6d-11e5-bd7f-4611a60dd8e5_story.html

The RW will call this BLACK JUNE.

That is all
No that's not all - rw heads a poppin' hahahaha!!! Woot!!!!

...I was just about to look for this.

I'm still reading it, but look forward to your always thoughtful comments after you read it.

IMO, from what I did read, Kennedy did a very thoughtful and very legally well-argued opinion. Bust most of all, it hit me as very kind and gentle in a very scholarly way. Most opinions do not make me feel like I want to cry -- some do: Brown v. Brd of Education is one of them that just make my legal heart strings sing.

I have been a very strong supporter of the rights of ALL people. I do not care about religion, sexual orientation, color, ethnicity, race, etc. I just have very strong feelings about the importance of simply being "human" and therefore one DESERVES equal rights. The issues about the ACA and my desire to see socialized medical care for everyone are also underpinned by these same feelings.

IMO, Justice Kennedy wrote so wonderfully about the human rights of all who love another. I was very pleased to see his use of the Loving case. I have always felt that this case would eventually lead the way to equal rights for all persons wishing to marry.

The above may not be much of a legal opinion...but I am so happy to day with the three cases that came down from SCOTUS! I am literally dancing around my office!

Feel mostly the same way about Kennedy's choice of words in this opinion. Some of it quite poetic, as well as solidly reasoned, relying upon all and mentioning some of those relevant precedents.

I was surprised a bit that it was only 5-4. I felt sure Roberts would be smarter, and his dissenting opinion actually just was outrageously juvenile. It would have flunked a freshman law school course, for the lack of understanding of what Amendment 14 says about equality of all under the state/nation's laws. Just a solid F to Roberts for his absurd legal reasoning in his dissent.


Anyway, it's now a matter of history, and really shows Roberts is more a political guy than a genuine Constitutional scholar.

Always a pleasure to read your thoughts on DU.

... it's about effing time!

A great week for everyone!

my deepest respect for doing so.

not have been.

Remember Hamdan vs Rumsfeld? I am grateful for his contributions, they're
significant in light of the members of the court.

He also came out recently speaking about our disastrous incarceration system..you
take the good where you can.

and the business side of things has largely been on the equality side for awhile now as it's good for business, drawing in talent, and is certainly a boon in the PR/social media side of the world.

cowardly Con ass and keep the SCOTUS decision from causing a major constitutional crisis.

Big money in marriage.

Same as guns and politics. (Heller and Citizens United)

He doesn't vote for justice. He votes for $$$.

in its entirety to see that is not his only approach.

separation of church and state - IMHO...

Now - will someone explain this thinking as written by the chief in dissent -

he says, "If you are among the many Americans--of whatever sexual orientation--who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not Celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it." -

constant in all marriages is a marriage license from the government. Religion plays a role in marriage only if one wants a religious ceremony in a church. There are many other ways to be married legally apart from religion.

Went to a Native American wedding this weekend. The official doing the wedding was not a minister. He was a NA leader who got permission from the government to preform the wedding. What makes you married is the permission that you received from the government and our civil rights are to all government services.

BTW forgot to say Whoopee.

The Chief Justice in his oral announcement took some of the edge off of his denunciation of the Court (reviving the Lochner principle of liberty, e.g.) with an encouragement to gay people to celebrate what they the newly one, but says don't celebrate the Constitution; "that had nothing to do with it."

Lochner principle of liberty - interesting read...excerpt -

Lochner's appeal was based on the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which provides: "... nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." In a series of cases starting with Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), the Supreme Court established that the Due Process Clause (found in both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments) is not merely a procedural guarantee, but also a substantive limitation on the type of control the government may exercise over individuals

Great Day to celebrate life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness....

Yeah, see. Numbers are more than a game.



Equal rights under law, right. Money, see.

with occasional tornadoes and earthquakes?

I'll withhold judgment until Pat Robertson shows us the way....

Until then...'bout time.

The next Earthquake and any hurricanes for the next year or two in the USA will be a direct result of this decision, according to those who say they talk to God.

...during her two terms. It's still a conservative court and a danger to us all. (See Heller and Citizens United).

However, like in Obamacare, there is profit in gay marriage, and profit overrides social issues, currently.

Congratulations to all my friends on their future legal marriages.

President Sanders now....

no, thanks. Go Bernie!

President Sanders will appoint common sense judges.

no-sex marriages as well as non-marriage?

There's a lot of them going around too.

Something that should be common sense took a very long and hard fight. Nevertheless, all is well that ends well.

"I am as light as a feather, I am as happy as an angel, I am as merry as a schoolboy. I am as giddy as a drunken man..... Hallo here. Whoop. Hallo."

I think Charles Dickens expressed my feelings of joy perfectly! God bless us all, everyone!

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Heterosexuals don't have to put up with being legally married in one state but not another. Why should non-heterosexuals?


rocktivity

I'm going over to troll yahoo comments right now!

Source: The Guardian

I go out to water the garden, come back in and we have marriage equality? Holy shit!

wants to hide his head in a bag over this mummery, this judicial Putsch, these mystical aphorisms of fortune cookies...to go with the jiggery-pokery and applesauce of yesterday (was it only yesterday?).

I'm crying crocodile tears for the poor alleged Justice, and his similarly deluded brethren.

But tears of Joy! Joy! JOY! for the rest of us.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Great news. I was at the gym when I heard.


Took my mind of the Knicks draft pick last night.

the folks down here in Alabama is going to "love" this. I have to go out to buy my popcorn so I can enjoy the meltdown.

Kennedy's writing the opinion makes it clear it is not just from D appointed justices, and the opinion seems to be very strong, preemptively shutting up nit pickers by saying it is not just due to some narrow arcane reasoning, it is the right thing. Great day!

Today was a giant leap.

"The constitution has nothing to do with it" my ass!

That pisses me off, this guy is our Cheif Justice.

And notice he says 'benefits' rather than rights, fucker.

I'm so happy today, maybe I have to read no further in order to maintain that

This is a beautiful day, congratulations to friends and family across the country!

I'm very proud of my country today.

saying the law exists just because 5 justices wanted it to.

Sore losing, butt hurt motherfuckers.

FUCK OFF

I AM really surprised.

Haters, eat cake...WEDDING Cake!

I expected mandatory state recognition. Perhaps 6-3 on that limited decision.

Declaring a constitutional right to marry goes beyond my wildest dreams (regardless of the split).

A very hard fought victory

I will probably start my own thread about my evolution on this matter, but I cannot fathom how someone turns their back on a loved one like that. I know it happens, but because of my family I cannot understand it. Congratulations to everyone who is affected by this decision. I've said it before, but "civil rights for all or none"

Mahalo Don!

Now get married, folks.