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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:36 AM Jun 2015

O'Malley: Islamic State rise unintended result from war rush

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley said Friday the rise of the Islamic State group was an unintended consequence of a "mindless rush to war" in Iraq, and said the U.S. must avoid "mission creep" there and work with the government as it seeks to defend its country.

In a speech to the Truman National Security Project, the former Maryland governor said the invasion of Iraq by the U.S. was one of the most tragic and costly blunders in U.S. history. He made no mention of his Democratic rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who faced criticism during her 2008 presidential campaign for her Senate vote in favor of the 2003 invasion.

"No threat probably better illustrates the unintended consequences of a mindless rush to war - and a lack of understanding - than the emergence of ISIS," O'Malley said in his first foreign policy address as a presidential candidate.

He added: "We are still paying the price of a war pursued under false pretenses and acquiesced to, in the words of Dr. (Martin Luther) King (Jr.) by `the appalling silence of the good.' "

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_OMALLEY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-26-10-10-09

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Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
1. Unintended? I think not
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jun 2015

The neocons are war profiteers, and pretty clear in their intentions to put the US in a permanent state of war.

The Islamic State is a goldmine for them.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Neocons Urge Embrace of Al Qaeda
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jun 2015

Just nine days after the fall of the World Trade Center, George W. Bush announced that he was imposing a radical new policy on virtually the entire globe: “Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.”

As dramatic as the statement was, just about every phrase was open to question in one form or another. But rather than launching into a long and vigorous debate about the meaning of terrorism or America’s right to impose diktat on the world at large, congressmen turned their minds off and gave Bush a standing ovation.

Today, the same Bush Doctrine is sinking beneath the waves as a growing portion of the punditocracy declares that some forms of terrorism are better than others and that harboring a terrorist may not be so bad if it advances U.S. interests. But once again, the response is not questioning, debate, or even applause, but silence.

The latest evidence of a sea change in establishment thinking is a blog that Ahmed Rashid, a prominent Middle East correspondent, recently published on The New York Review of Books website. Entitled “Why We Need al-Qaeda,” it argues that Al Qaeda and its Syrian affiliate, Al Nusra, are evolving in a more moderate direction in growing contrast to its rival, the super-violent Islamic State. So why not use Al Nusra as a counterforce against both Bashar al-Assad and ISIS?

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/26/neocons-urge-embrace-of-al-qaeda/

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
7. " So why not use Al Nusra as a counterforce against both Bashar al-Assad and ISIS?"
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jun 2015

From my experience people get pissed off when they think they are being used. I suppose then will have to cozy up to ISIS as a counterweight.

elleng

(130,981 posts)
9. "We are still paying the price of a war pursued under false pretenses
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jun 2015

and acquiesced to, in the words of Dr. (Martin Luther) King (Jr.) by `the appalling silence of the good.' "

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
10. Pardon me, but what
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:38 PM
Jun 2015

is new about this? Most of us know it, and Bernie
has pointed it out several times.

Still, good for MOM, now when do we hear this
admission from other candidates?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. Not "unintended", it's a side effect of a couple of decades of war profiteers!
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:08 PM
Jun 2015

Couple countries full of undereducated young adult males all ready to run amuck, loot, kill people and grab woman. barbarians. Let the major Govs in that area- sort it out themselves. They can buy help directly from the gunrunners. Leave America and Americans taxpayer money out of it.

Another 'side effect' of the war profiteers is an America who hands over more taxpayers, Federal and State money to war, then to their own citizens at home. Trillions were squandered.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. Martin O'Malley - slow but sure wins the race?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jun 2015

Most people don't know him yet - so he polls poorly. Give him some time and see what develops.

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